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Nov 13, 2008 9:30 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Thinking about stereotypes here, not necessarily how you (male or female) might really be.
Do you have a particular trait or characteristic that others have told you is more often found in the opposite gender? In other words, if you are a woman, has anyone ever told you that you do something more like a man might, rather than a woman? And, vice-versa for the men.

And, if so....do you perceive the comments as insults or compliments?

I wonder this because I have been told (more than once) that I think like a man....that I approach something in a certain methodical and logical process of reasoning, and men seem to view this as a manly trait. I don't agree, for I know many women who are logical and thoughtful, but this is what I have heard.

Now, a man telling me this believes that he is complimenting me.

If you are a man, have you been told that you do something like a woman and was it ever meant as a compliment? How many times do we hear phrases like "you throw like a girl!" or "you're acting like a wuss!" (implying a feminine-like show of emotion or discomfort with aggressive behavior). If you are a man, what stereotypical feminine trait might be attributed to you that you would view as a compliment?
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Nov 13, 2008 10:13 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
I've certainly gotten the one about throwing like a girl...to which I say, "Duh!"

But I've had men enjoy the fact that I tend to shop like a man...and my sons appreciate it too. laugh

Other than that, not really. I've just had most of the guys at the VFW say that if anyone ever comes in to rob the place, they'll let me deal with them if I'm there...but they'll be there for back up. I just get to be the front line.

laugh laugh laugh

I find that funny coming from Vietnam and Gulf War vets.
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Nov 13, 2008 10:23 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Shirley49WV
Shirley49WVShirley49WVMason, West Virginia USA27 Threads 2,449 Posts
druidess6308: I've certainly gotten the one about throwing like a girl...to which I say, "Duh!"

But I've had men enjoy the fact that I tend to shop like a man...and my sons appreciate it too.

Other than that, not really. I've just had most of the guys at the VFW say that if anyone ever comes in to rob the place, they'll let me deal with them if I'm there...but they'll be there for back up. I just get to be the front line.



I find that funny coming from Vietnam and Gulf War vets.


That just tells us all that you are 1 strong willed lady! wave
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Nov 13, 2008 10:26 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...

I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.

I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.
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Nov 13, 2008 11:40 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Shirley49WV: That just tells us all that you are 1 strong willed lady!


Thank you...I just keep hoping that they're joking. laugh
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Nov 13, 2008 11:43 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...

I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.

I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.


I agree...I think only a strong man would want to help, and it should be returned when she's at your house. Again, it should be equal.

And there's nothing wrong with a man liking to cook. I know many men who can cook much better than I can, and love to share recipes. My late husband loved to cook, and there were many guys in the bars who liked talking about cooking tips with him. And I don't think anyone would dare to call Emeril a wuss...or the guy that does the Throwdowns on the Food Network.

hug
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Nov 13, 2008 11:51 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
BarrenPneuma
BarrenPneumaBarrenPneumaGolden Staircase, Ontario Canada87 Threads 3 Polls 1,561 Posts
I can be extremely emotionally aware, empathic, and have been known to squeeze a tear out from some particularly touching thought or even a bloody commercial. I see strength in accepting that I do have emotions but it is often frowned upon by men until they see the look in my eyes that quickly reminds them of who I am.
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Nov 13, 2008 11:51 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
rolling on the floor laughing My worst was when I went out and bought 10 yards of material (cloth) were people everywhere,
The gal at the counter ask.. "what are you going to do with this?"

Told her that I was making new curtains for my house.
all of the women about died.. you wouldn't believe all of the funny comments.

Yes... I run a sewing machine, rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 13, 2008 11:53 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
rasgumby: My worst was when I went out and bought 10 yards of material (cloth) were people everywhere,
The gal at the counter ask.. "what are you going to do with this?"

Told her that I was making new curtains for my house.
all of the women about died.. you wouldn't believe all of the funny comments.

Yes... I run a sewing machine,


Now if I could just find a female partner that can change my transmission!!

Match made in Heaven!!banana
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Nov 13, 2008 12:15 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
shipoker58
shipoker58shipoker58Las Vegas, Nevada USA30 Threads 2,969 Posts
my girlfriend said I look better in her teddy than she does!!tongue
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Nov 13, 2008 1:19 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...

I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.

I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.


I had visitors for a few hours, so I was offline when you wrote this. First of all, thank you!
Secondly, I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."

I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.
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Nov 13, 2008 3:42 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
jlb684: I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."

I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.


applause applause

Same with the ability to cry. My dad is half Irish...during movies or shows that had the rest of us crying, the tissue box had to go to him as well. He was never afraid to cry...or pick up a mop or dish towel. He fed and changed us as babies, too. And then fixed the cars and mowed the lawns...and this is my ideal of what a man should be like.

I don't go for the strong, silent types who can't cry. I go for the strong types who aren't afraid to show their emotions...or cook and clean.
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Nov 13, 2008 5:29 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Funny. The first thing I thought about this thread was that I - most definitely a man's man! - could easily see myself starting a thread like this. laugh wave One of the things that appealed to me about you was your logical, masculine mind, Jeffrey (perhaps that was rather narcissistic of me?). laugh

Seriously, you strike me as one of the most feminine ladies around here, despite your manly logic...in many ways I think of you as a complete girly-girl.

But to your question - absolutely, I have traits that many strongly associate with females. First, I'm extremely "communicative," unlike 99.99% of men. More frighteningly, I'm VERY comfortable discussing emotions. Also, I very much like music by women (Loreena McKennitt, Sarah McLachlan. Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Imogen Heap, etc.). Also, I have started moisturizing, but I don't consider that an inherent trait since it was cruelly foisted on me by my girlfriend.

To compensate, I drown at least two Budweisers a day and lift lots of weights and wear macho caps/wigs.

EXCELLENT thread, Jeffrey!
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Nov 13, 2008 5:32 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
roseofsharon
roseofsharonroseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK60 Threads 3 Polls 8,699 Posts
Yes, I have been told that I drive like a man!! I don't think it was meant that I drive badly, but more in the sense that I am not a frilly girlie type driver??

Mind you, my last boyfriend, whilst I was driving once, complimented me that I was a good driver......

I was so surprised at this, I immediately hit the kerb!!!

Duuhhh...!! roll eyes doh

rolling on the floor laughing
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Nov 13, 2008 5:32 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...

I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.

I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.


scold I suppose you stop to ask for directions, too.mumbling scold
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Nov 13, 2008 5:38 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
jlb684: I had visitors for a few hours, so I was offline when you wrote this. First of all, thank you!
Secondly, I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."

I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.


"Dish towel"? "MOP"??? Next thing you'll have us using dusters!very mad super
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Nov 13, 2008 5:42 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
mbcasey
mbcaseymbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA68 Threads 7 Polls 16,449 Posts
Ambrose2007: I suppose you stop to ask for directions, too.


laugh rolling on the floor laughing

I was in Florida last week, and got lost everytime I left my uncle's house.

But I never stopped for directions!!!

I would rather spend $50 on gas looking for the road I am one block away from grinding my tires down to bologna skins before I ask directions!!
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Nov 13, 2008 5:43 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: "Dish towel"? "MOP"??? Next thing you'll have us using dusters!


And washing dishes!?wow frustrated
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Nov 13, 2008 5:48 PM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
mbcasey: I was in Florida last week, and got lost everytime I left my uncle's house.

But I never stopped for directions!!!

I would rather spend $50 on gas looking for the road I am one block away from grinding my tires down to bologna skins before I ask directions!!


Which just proves, Ken, that despite your cleanliness that you are a Man's Man!cheering handshake
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Nov 14, 2008 3:10 AM CST Gender stereotypes...and surprises
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Ambrose2007: Funny. The first thing I thought about this thread was that I - most definitely a man's man! - could easily see myself starting a thread like this. One of the things that appealed to me about you was your logical, masculine mind, Jeffrey (perhaps that was rather narcissistic of me?).

Seriously, you strike me as one of the most feminine ladies around here, despite your manly logic...in many ways I think of you as a complete girly-girl.

But to your question - absolutely, I have traits that many strongly associate with females. First, I'm extremely "communicative," unlike 99.99% of men. More frighteningly, I'm VERY comfortable discussing emotions. Also, I very much like music by women (Loreena McKennitt, Sarah McLachlan. Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Imogen Heap, etc.). Also, I have started moisturizing, but I don't consider that an inherent trait since it was cruelly foisted on me by my girlfriend.

To compensate, I drown at least two Budweisers a day and lift lots of weights and wear macho caps/wigs.

EXCELLENT thread, Jeffrey!


Thanks, Jeff!
By the way, you can stand in front of the sink and wash some dishes without fear of losing your manliness as long as you occasionally start to bob and weave from an imaginary sparring partner and do some of those air jabs and punches. All doubts of your masculinity will be quickly eliminated with a regular routing of air-boxing.
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