Thinking about stereotypes here, not necessarily how you (male or female) might really be. Do you have a particular trait or characteristic that others have told you is more often found in the opposite gender? In other words, if you are a woman, has anyone ever told you that you do something more like a man might, rather than a woman? And, vice-versa for the men.
And, if so....do you perceive the comments as insults or compliments?
I wonder this because I have been told (more than once) that I think like a man....that I approach something in a certain methodical and logical process of reasoning, and men seem to view this as a manly trait. I don't agree, for I know many women who are logical and thoughtful, but this is what I have heard.
Now, a man telling me this believes that he is complimenting me.
If you are a man, have you been told that you do something like a woman and was it ever meant as a compliment? How many times do we hear phrases like "you throw like a girl!" or "you're acting like a wuss!" (implying a feminine-like show of emotion or discomfort with aggressive behavior). If you are a man, what stereotypical feminine trait might be attributed to you that you would view as a compliment?
I've certainly gotten the one about throwing like a girl...to which I say, "Duh!"
But I've had men enjoy the fact that I tend to shop like a man...and my sons appreciate it too.
Other than that, not really. I've just had most of the guys at the VFW say that if anyone ever comes in to rob the place, they'll let me deal with them if I'm there...but they'll be there for back up. I just get to be the front line.
I find that funny coming from Vietnam and Gulf War vets.
druidess6308: I've certainly gotten the one about throwing like a girl...to which I say, "Duh!"
But I've had men enjoy the fact that I tend to shop like a man...and my sons appreciate it too.
Other than that, not really. I've just had most of the guys at the VFW say that if anyone ever comes in to rob the place, they'll let me deal with them if I'm there...but they'll be there for back up. I just get to be the front line.
I find that funny coming from Vietnam and Gulf War vets.
That just tells us all that you are 1 strong willed lady!
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...
I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.
I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...
I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.
I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.
I agree...I think only a strong man would want to help, and it should be returned when she's at your house. Again, it should be equal.
And there's nothing wrong with a man liking to cook. I know many men who can cook much better than I can, and love to share recipes. My late husband loved to cook, and there were many guys in the bars who liked talking about cooking tips with him. And I don't think anyone would dare to call Emeril a wuss...or the guy that does the Throwdowns on the Food Network.
I can be extremely emotionally aware, empathic, and have been known to squeeze a tear out from some particularly touching thought or even a bloody commercial. I see strength in accepting that I do have emotions but it is often frowned upon by men until they see the look in my eyes that quickly reminds them of who I am.
My worst was when I went out and bought 10 yards of material (cloth) were people everywhere, The gal at the counter ask.. "what are you going to do with this?"
Told her that I was making new curtains for my house. all of the women about died.. you wouldn't believe all of the funny comments.
rasgumby: My worst was when I went out and bought 10 yards of material (cloth) were people everywhere, The gal at the counter ask.. "what are you going to do with this?"
Told her that I was making new curtains for my house. all of the women about died.. you wouldn't believe all of the funny comments.
Yes... I run a sewing machine,
Now if I could just find a female partner that can change my transmission!!
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...
I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.
I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.
I had visitors for a few hours, so I was offline when you wrote this. First of all, thank you! Secondly, I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."
I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.
jlb684: I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."
I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.
Same with the ability to cry. My dad is half Irish...during movies or shows that had the rest of us crying, the tissue box had to go to him as well. He was never afraid to cry...or pick up a mop or dish towel. He fed and changed us as babies, too. And then fixed the cars and mowed the lawns...and this is my ideal of what a man should be like.
I don't go for the strong, silent types who can't cry. I go for the strong types who aren't afraid to show their emotions...or cook and clean.
Funny. The first thing I thought about this thread was that I - most definitely a man's man! - could easily see myself starting a thread like this. One of the things that appealed to me about you was your logical, masculine mind, Jeffrey (perhaps that was rather narcissistic of me?).
Seriously, you strike me as one of the most feminine ladies around here, despite your manly logic...in many ways I think of you as a complete girly-girl.
But to your question - absolutely, I have traits that many strongly associate with females. First, I'm extremely "communicative," unlike 99.99% of men. More frighteningly, I'm VERY comfortable discussing emotions. Also, I very much like music by women (Loreena McKennitt, Sarah McLachlan. Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Imogen Heap, etc.). Also, I have started moisturizing, but I don't consider that an inherent trait since it was cruelly foisted on me by my girlfriend.
To compensate, I drown at least two Budweisers a day and lift lots of weights and wear macho caps/wigs.
roseofsharonmanchester, Hampshire, England UK8,699 posts
Yes, I have been told that I drive like a man!! I don't think it was meant that I drive badly, but more in the sense that I am not a frilly girlie type driver??
Mind you, my last boyfriend, whilst I was driving once, complimented me that I was a good driver......
I was so surprised at this, I immediately hit the kerb!!!
mbcasey: Jeffery...you are very feminine and attractive...
I get a few odd looks my way when I tell people I like to cook. I am also very clean and like a clean and neat home. When I am in a relationship, I offer to help my girlfriend with her housework, cooking, yardwork and errands. I even offer to help pay the bills if I am staying a week or more at her house.
I guess guys would think I am a wuss, but I think only a strong man would want to help with these things.
jlb684: I had visitors for a few hours, so I was offline when you wrote this. First of all, thank you! Secondly, I fully agree with your last bit...."only a strong man would want to help with these things."
I wonder sometimes when it will become as obvious to most men as it is to most women...we do NOT think of you as weak or less of a man if you pick up a dishtowel or a mop. In fact, I would venture to guess, this can be one of life's biggest turn-ons....seeing a man who is so secure in his masculinity and so self-aware that he can leave the machismo behind and simply do what must be done. This is a man.
"Dish towel"? "MOP"??? Next thing you'll have us using dusters!
Ambrose2007: Funny. The first thing I thought about this thread was that I - most definitely a man's man! - could easily see myself starting a thread like this. One of the things that appealed to me about you was your logical, masculine mind, Jeffrey (perhaps that was rather narcissistic of me?).
Seriously, you strike me as one of the most feminine ladies around here, despite your manly logic...in many ways I think of you as a complete girly-girl.
But to your question - absolutely, I have traits that many strongly associate with females. First, I'm extremely "communicative," unlike 99.99% of men. More frighteningly, I'm VERY comfortable discussing emotions. Also, I very much like music by women (Loreena McKennitt, Sarah McLachlan. Alanis Morrisette, Jewel, Imogen Heap, etc.). Also, I have started moisturizing, but I don't consider that an inherent trait since it was cruelly foisted on me by my girlfriend.
To compensate, I drown at least two Budweisers a day and lift lots of weights and wear macho caps/wigs.
EXCELLENT thread, Jeffrey!
Thanks, Jeff! By the way, you can stand in front of the sink and wash some dishes without fear of losing your manliness as long as you occasionally start to bob and weave from an imaginary sparring partner and do some of those air jabs and punches. All doubts of your masculinity will be quickly eliminated with a regular routing of air-boxing.
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Do you have a particular trait or characteristic that others have told you is more often found in the opposite gender? In other words, if you are a woman, has anyone ever told you that you do something more like a man might, rather than a woman? And, vice-versa for the men.
And, if so....do you perceive the comments as insults or compliments?
I wonder this because I have been told (more than once) that I think like a man....that I approach something in a certain methodical and logical process of reasoning, and men seem to view this as a manly trait. I don't agree, for I know many women who are logical and thoughtful, but this is what I have heard.
Now, a man telling me this believes that he is complimenting me.
If you are a man, have you been told that you do something like a woman and was it ever meant as a compliment? How many times do we hear phrases like "you throw like a girl!" or "you're acting like a wuss!" (implying a feminine-like show of emotion or discomfort with aggressive behavior). If you are a man, what stereotypical feminine trait might be attributed to you that you would view as a compliment?