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Nov 18, 2008 2:48 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
I get so frustrated when I tell people I believe in God and Jesus but I don't believe in religion... in fact I am dead against it all together! It kills, lies and uses the word of God to make millions of dollars.... so..... why is it so wrong to say I am just as much a Christian as anyone else? I have spent years looking into and even attending different churches and religions to see if one of them feels right to me and guess what...... I have come to the conclusion that every religion thinks they are...................
"THE RIGHT ONE" "THE REAL ONE" and I'm sorry but if you love God and all your bothers and sisters how can you be so narrow minded? I believe in the bible too but I don't believe in re-writing it so that people today can understand it... leave it as is!!!!! Don't mess with a good thing! I have given up on religion all together but I will not give up on MY FAITH! I just wonder if there are other people out there who feel the same way and if so........ where do we go to be with others who feel the same? Sometimes it's nice to be surrounded by others of the same mentality! confused dunno
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Nov 18, 2008 2:57 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
I think you're part of the "Spiritual but not religious" group...which is broad, and also includes Pagans like me, and those who study the Theosophies of many religions, but doesn't follow any particular one strictly.

There are some churches that are beginning to cater to this...and spiritual centers, too, if you're open-minded enough to learn of the beliefs of others.

Here we have a free publication called Point of Light that has all kinds of spiritual info in it, and we can get it at any health food store, metaphysical shop, or spiritual center, and it has lots of them advertised along with the events happening. You might have a similar publication in your area.

In many places, the lines are starting to blur as many start to reject organized religion. I wish you Peace. hug
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Nov 18, 2008 3:04 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
druidess6308: I think you're part of the "Spiritual but not religious" group...which is broad, and also includes Pagans like me, and those who study the Theosophies of many religions, but doesn't follow any particular one strictly.

There are some churches that are beginning to cater to this...and spiritual centers, too, if you're open-minded enough to learn of the beliefs of others.

Here we have a free publication called Point of Light that has all kinds of spiritual info in it, and we can get it at any health food store, metaphysical shop, or spiritual center, and it has lots of them advertised along with the events happening. You might have a similar publication in your area.

In many places, the lines are starting to blur as many start to reject organized religion. I wish you Peace.
Hey thanks! I never really thought of that and for years I as just flat out confused lol. Just recently I realized that religion is not for me but like I said it's always hard explaining to others you believe in God and Jesus but not man made religion because I think that's what it is... man made just like material! lol.
I will check this out and see if there is something near me, thank you very much for the info! wine teddybear
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Nov 18, 2008 3:08 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: I get so frustrated when I tell people I believe in God and Jesus but I don't believe in religion... in fact I am dead against it all together! It kills, lies and uses the word of God to make millions of dollars.... so..... why is it so wrong to say I am just as much a Christian as anyone else? I have spent years looking into and even attending different churches and religions to see if one of them feels right to me and guess what...... I have come to the conclusion that every religion thinks they are...................
"THE RIGHT ONE" "THE REAL ONE" and I'm sorry but if you love God and all your bothers and sisters how can you be so narrow minded? I believe in the bible too but I don't believe in re-writing it so that people today can understand it... leave it as is!!!!! Don't mess with a good thing! I have given up on religion all together but I will not give up on MY FAITH! I just wonder if there are other people out there who feel the same way and if so........ where do we go to be with others who feel the same? Sometimes it's nice to be surrounded by others of the same mentality!



uh oh






laugh it sounds like your mind is open to possibilites and that's a good place to start when it comes to gods.

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Nov 18, 2008 3:16 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
BnaturAl: it sounds like your mind is open to possibilites and that's a good place to start when it comes to gods.
lol yes I am! As of right now I am reading about Rastafarian beliefs so this is just another attempt and as of now I like that it's a movement not religion plus a few co-workers/friends of mine believe in it and they joke all the time I am but just don't know it lol. I am still discovering so many things! I'm getting info here on cs too so this helps! laugh
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Nov 18, 2008 3:19 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: Hey thanks! I never really thought of that and for years I as just flat out confused lol. Just recently I realized that religion is not for me but like I said it's always hard explaining to others you believe in God and Jesus but not man made religion because I think that's what it is... man made just like material! lol.
I will check this out and see if there is something near me, thank you very much for the info!


You're welcome. I'm glad I helped. And an open mind is a good thing. You now find statues of Buddha in the same houses with crosses on the wall, and there's nothing wrong with that. There are a lot of people losing the "I'm right/Everyone else is wrong" mentality, thank goodness. Tolerance and acceptance are growing...it just needs to speed up!

hug
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Nov 18, 2008 3:22 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: lol yes I am! As of right now I am reading about Rastafarian beliefs so this is just another attempt and as of now I like that it's a movement not religion plus a few co-workers/friends of mine believe in it and they joke all the time I am but just don't know it lol. I am still discovering so many things! I'm getting info here on cs too so this helps!



hmmm oh then you might want to have an audience with "Stressfree" here ... He's kind of RastaNebulan smoking

alter-dimensional, quantum leap sort of movement. laugh thumbs up
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Nov 18, 2008 3:26 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
BnaturAl: oh then you might want to have an audience with "Stressfree" here ... He's kind of RastaNebulan

alter-dimensional, quantum leap sort of movement.


Yeah...he and I have a lot in common with our beliefs. thumbs up SF is a cool guy!
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Nov 18, 2008 3:29 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
BnaturAl: oh then you might want to have an audience with "Stressfree" here ... He's kind of RastaNebulan

alter-dimensional, quantum leap sort of movement.
LOL Yeah well I think I will leave all the smoking to others! They seem to have the same ideas I agree with also but I have much to learn... alot of reading!
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Nov 18, 2008 3:31 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
BnaturAl
BnaturAlBnaturAlSarnia, Ontario Canada107 Threads 7 Polls 6,811 Posts
druidess6308: Yeah...he and I have a lot in common with our beliefs. SF is a cool guy!




uh oh .. no way ... laugh Actually I do recall you two kibutzing one time. conversing
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Nov 18, 2008 3:38 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
But don't you believe that your beliefs are THE RIGHT ONES??dunno confused
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Nov 18, 2008 3:40 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: I get so frustrated when I tell people I believe in God and Jesus but I don't believe in religion... in fact I am dead against it all together! It kills, lies and uses the word of God to make millions of dollars.... so..... why is it so wrong to say I am just as much a Christian as anyone else? I have spent years looking into and even attending different churches and religions to see if one of them feels right to me and guess what...... I have come to the conclusion that every religion thinks they are...................
"THE RIGHT ONE" "THE REAL ONE" and I'm sorry but if you love God and all your bothers and sisters how can you be so narrow minded? I believe in the bible too but I don't believe in re-writing it so that people today can understand it... leave it as is!!!!! Don't mess with a good thing! I have given up on religion all together but I will not give up on MY FAITH! I just wonder if there are other people out there who feel the same way and if so........ where do we go to be with others who feel the same? Sometimes it's nice to be surrounded by others of the same mentality!


I think this means that you're against religions which violate your religious beliefs, SummerTime, NOT that you're against religion per se.
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Nov 18, 2008 3:43 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Ambrose2007: But don't you believe that your beliefs are THE RIGHT ONES??



Do you know that's always the 65 million dollar question for me....beliefs are personal and a personal choice...and mine are right for me....it amazes me that there has to be a right and a wrong when it comes to personal beliefs...since that's just what they are.....wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet dunno
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Nov 18, 2008 3:44 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Aries01
Aries01Aries01Kent, England UK47 Threads 4 Polls 2,732 Posts
SummerTimeXOXO: I get so frustrated when I tell people I believe in God and Jesus but I don't believe in religion... in fact I am dead against it all together! It kills, lies and uses the word of God to make millions of dollars.... so..... why is it so wrong to say I am just as much a Christian as anyone else? I have spent years looking into and even attending different churches and religions to see if one of them feels right to me and guess what...... I have come to the conclusion that every religion thinks they are...................
"THE RIGHT ONE" "THE REAL ONE" and I'm sorry but if you love God and all your bothers and sisters how can you be so narrow minded? I believe in the bible too but I don't believe in re-writing it so that people today can understand it... leave it as is!!!!! Don't mess with a good thing! I have given up on religion all together but I will not give up on MY FAITH! I just wonder if there are other people out there who feel the same way and if so........ where do we go to be with others who feel the same? Sometimes it's nice to be surrounded by others of the same mentality!


I just call myself a Non Denominational Bible based 'Christian' which I know is a bit long winded... laugh.. but like you I have no respect for 'Religious' behaviours... Religious people tend to be 'a la carte' with their faith... and feel the need to engage in overly judgemental over legalistic type practices to compensate... I know a person who is like that.. he knows the Bible inside out, criticises and 'corrects' his fellow churchgoers.... but at the same time displays little compassion on a day to day basis... dunno think Religion (in the conventional sense) is counter-spiritual and has a negative impact on a persons spiritual growth... JMV
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Nov 18, 2008 3:45 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
SummerTimeXOXO
SummerTimeXOXOSummerTimeXOXOToronto, Ontario Canada2 Threads 27 Posts
Ambrose2007: But don't you believe that your beliefs are THE RIGHT ONES??
Yes I do but I am wondering where someone like fits in... if I do lol and where I can find others instead of religious people telling me I can't be like this and not religious! Sick of hearing that! frustrated
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Nov 18, 2008 3:48 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Hugz_n_Kissez: Do you know that's always the 65 million dollar question for me....beliefs are personal and a personal choice...and mine are right for me....it amazes me that there has to be a right and a wrong when it comes to personal beliefs...since that's just what they are.....


Hi Hugsy! hug wave

It amazes me that one could believe something and not actually believe it's true (or even care) but rather just think of its value as deriving from being "personal." dunno

I've heard this "personal belief" statement so many times... But isn't the whole point of having a belief that it be true? What am I missing here? Is it a matter of personal belief that I can or cannot successfully attach an automobile motor to a paper engine mount (for example)?

Hmmmm...I've been thinking of starting a thread on precisely this subject. Perhaps now is the time...
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Nov 18, 2008 3:51 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Ambrose2007: But don't you believe that your beliefs are THE RIGHT ONES??


I believe mine are right for me...that doesn't make them right for everyone.hug
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Nov 18, 2008 3:53 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
BnaturAl: .. no way ... Actually I do recall you two kibutzing one time.


He and I have "kibutzed" on here a few times...laugh I always like kibutzing with my friends. hug
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Nov 18, 2008 3:54 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
Hugz_n_Kissez
Hugz_n_KissezHugz_n_KissezSomeplace, Ontario Canada59 Threads 2 Polls 25,438 Posts
Ambrose2007: Hi Hugsy!

It amazes me that one could believe something and not actually believe it's true (or even care) but rather just think of its value as deriving from being "personal."

I've heard this "personal belief" statement so many times... But isn't the whole point of having a belief that it be true? What am I missing here? Is it a matter of personal belief that I can or cannot successfully attach an automobile motor to a paper engine mount (for example)?

Hmmmm...I've been thinking of starting a thread on precisely this subject. Perhaps now is the time...



It is true...but it's true to me...what do I care if someone else believes what I believe to be true?????


The only one my own beliefs effect is me...nobody else.....so therefore...I don't have to be right....I only have to do and believe what's right for me....wave wink hug teddybear hug bouquet
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Nov 18, 2008 3:55 PM CST Believe in God and Jesus but don't believe in religion? What are we?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Aries01: I just call myself a Non Denominational Bible based 'Christian' which I know is a bit long winded... .. but like you I have no respect for 'Religious' behaviours... Religious people tend to be 'a la carte' with their faith... and feel the need to engage in overly judgemental over legalistic type practices to compensate... I know a person who is like that.. he knows the Bible inside out, criticises and 'corrects' his fellow churchgoers.... but at the same time displays little compassion on a day to day basis... dunno think Religion (in the conventional sense) is counter-spiritual and has a negative impact on a persons spiritual growth... JMV


Very well stated. I have little tolerance for those with little tolerance...it's one of the few things that can set my teeth on edge.hug
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