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Jan 14, 2009 1:28 AM CST Selfish
loverboy690: I would put up with you but I'm getting ready for see ya dawn


Goodnight darlin. See you are trying to stir up mischief as always. lollaugh hug
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Jan 14, 2009 1:31 AM CST Selfish
loverboy690
loverboy690loverboy690East Jordan, Michigan USA84 Threads 7 Polls 3,729 Posts
Dawn7z: Goodnight darlin. See you are trying to stir up mischief as always. lol
try to darlin wanna go to bed?laugh no but I will see ya later.
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Jan 14, 2009 1:35 AM CST Selfish
Night folks. Hope for healing for a lot of you out there and that you do not give up hope that you meet your match in person or online that you will open to recognize love if/when it comes knocking.wave wave
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Jan 14, 2009 1:36 AM CST Selfish
loverboy690
loverboy690loverboy690East Jordan, Michigan USA84 Threads 7 Polls 3,729 Posts
Dawn7z: Night folks. Hope for healing for a lot of you out there and that you do not give up hope that you meet your match in person or online that you will open to recognize love if/when it comes knocking.
well said and same goes for me night
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Jan 14, 2009 9:08 AM CST Selfish
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
Hello HJF: I was just reading through this thread and wanted to reply before finishing it to say 'nothing or no one can MAKE you happy', but in the end (you post above, you know that.
Making amends is a good way to come to some closure on what you feel you need to do in order to find peace.

Peace to you.
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Jan 14, 2009 9:12 AM CST Selfish
HJFinAZ: Can we play a little game here in CS land??

Everyone close your eyes, pretend you are in a nice romantic spot with "THE ONE"....... You are in great anticipation of what is to be.

"THE ONE", looks at you and says, "I would rather be happy than be with you".. How do you feel????

Who is the selfish one??

I bet this dies quick....



Pat I would let them go if that's what made them happy.
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Jan 14, 2009 9:12 AM CST Selfish
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
If "I" was ready and she were truly "the one", that conversation should never take place.
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Jan 14, 2009 9:16 AM CST Selfish
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
dazzling_dave: If "I" was ready and she were truly "the one", that conversation should never take place.


If "both" were available, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.. It would not take place..handshake
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Jan 14, 2009 9:22 AM CST Selfish
dazzling_dave
dazzling_davedazzling_daveWaynesboro, Virginia USA4 Threads 1,993 Posts
HJFinAZ: If "both" were available, mentally, physically, emotionally, and spiritually.. It would not take place..


If she wasn't available mentally, physically, or emotionally then she's truly not "the one", no matter what "I" may want.

I'm still learning this lesson.
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Jan 14, 2009 9:43 AM CST Selfish
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
tina_olson: My ex once told me he would rather spend 1 night with an old crush from high school than a lifetime with me--should have been a sign there,instead waited 19 more years to wake up..Funny thing never forgot those words...


wow wow No offense, Tina, but that was a lot more than a mere "sign." You would've saved yourself 19 wasted years if you'd simply taken him at his word, I'm thinking...doh hug wave
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Jan 14, 2009 9:46 AM CST Selfish
wixomwizard
wixomwizardwixomwizardWixom, Michigan USA35 Threads 3,636 Posts
If they can't handle perfection...f..k 'em.banana banana
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Jan 14, 2009 9:47 AM CST Selfish
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
HJFinAZ: Can we play a little game here in CS land??

Everyone close your eyes, pretend you are in a nice romantic spot with "THE ONE"....... You are in great anticipation of what is to be.

"THE ONE", looks at you and says, "I would rather be happy than be with you".. How do you feel????

Who is the selfish one??

I bet this dies quick....


Well, romantic love is one of those perhaps rare things which is fundamentally selfish. One doesn't - and shouldn't attempt to - love one "charitably"...nor would any person in his or her right mind want that.

Of course you will feel compassionate and charitable toward someone you love (if you truly love them), but the ultimate source of romantic love is not altruistic.

So...to answer your question: I would find nothing offensive about that comment. It's like someone saying "I must love myself first before loving you" - merely stating a more or less self-evident truth.
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Jan 14, 2009 10:04 AM CST Selfish
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
HJFinAZ: "If", you forgive him, you forgive yourself..


But that is only "my" experience..
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Jan 14, 2009 10:10 AM CST Selfish
sassy49senior
sassy49seniorsassy49seniorItty Bitty, Nebraska USA274 Threads 4,632 Posts
HJFinAZ: But that is only "my" experience..





I have sat with my creator for hours on end about this
subject. I know what needs to be done. I am usually
not too stubborn. However on this subject God and I
bump heads. I know I will have to answer to HIM in the
long run. Maybe I will find the forgiveness on my death
bed, only God knows.
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Jan 14, 2009 10:15 AM CST Selfish
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
HJFinAZ: "If", you forgive him, you forgive yourself..



Have to disagree with that HJ. I will never forgive my father for what he did t me. I HAVE NOTHING TO BE FORGIVEN FOR in that situation, so I won't forgive me by forgiving himscold
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Jan 14, 2009 10:20 AM CST Selfish
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
HJFinAZ: I was desperate. I didn't get into relationships/marriages, I took hostages..

All that has been many years ago, I have learned a few things "about me" over the years. One of the most important things I have learned, until I could live with and love myself, I could not live with or love another..

Today, I would not be willing to trade my place in life with anyone.


More power to you. I guess the "desperate" sound - to my ears - of people who habitually proclaim their own independence and lack of needing anyone else comes from the sense that perhaps they're dealing with their own loneliness through aggressive self-suggestion or even some elements of self-delusion. No, I'm not accusing you of that, Pat - and you are a more persuasive and eloquent promoter of this concept than most - but when I think of some people I've known who've expressed similar viewpoints...I'm thinking of my friend, now, who is suffering from a difficult breakup...that telling oneself in effect that "I am an island" is more palliative than true.wave hug
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Jan 14, 2009 10:23 AM CST Selfish
sassy49senior
sassy49seniorsassy49seniorItty Bitty, Nebraska USA274 Threads 4,632 Posts
pretzelman: Have to disagree with that HJ. I will never forgive my father for what he did t me. I HAVE NOTHING TO BE FORGIVEN FOR in that situation, so I won't forgive me by forgiving him




I am in the same boat Pretzie. hug
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Jan 14, 2009 10:26 AM CST Selfish
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
sassy49senior: I am in the same boat Pretzie.



Yes.....that's why O posted it. I read the response to what you said about your bosssad flower
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Jan 14, 2009 10:40 AM CST Selfish
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
Ambrose2007: More power to you. I guess the "desperate" sound - to my ears - of people who habitually proclaim their own independence and lack of needing anyone else comes from the sense that perhaps they're dealing with their own loneliness through aggressive self-suggestion or even some elements of self-delusion. No, I'm not accusing you of that, Pat - and you are a more persuasive and eloquent promoter of this concept than most - but when I think of some people I've known who've expressed similar viewpoints...I'm thinking of my friend, now, who is suffering from a difficult breakup...that telling oneself in effect that "I am an island" is more palliative than true.


I do not need anyone else, I would like to have another.. But that is just me.

Present circumstances in life, caring for my elderly mother, I feel it would be unfair to any woman bringing her into my life at this time as I would not have the time to give her the devotion I would want to give her.

Also, I think it would be unfair to mom..
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Jan 14, 2009 10:44 AM CST Selfish
HJFinAZ
HJFinAZHJFinAZSun CIty, Arizona USA870 Threads 1 Polls 17,068 Posts
pretzelman: Have to disagree with that HJ. I will never forgive my father for what he did t me. I HAVE NOTHING TO BE FORGIVEN FOR in that situation, so I won't forgive me by forgiving him


From what little I know about your deal Ship, I agree with you that you had no control at the time.

I speak only of the "feelings" we hold in rather than letting them go.

I always have and always will say, "feelings" are not right or wrong, they just are..
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