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I know many Northerners who feel sold out...They were left to fend for themselves and there is that feeling of anger towards people in the south for being abandoned..The border is just an imaginery line drawn on a map that seperates townlands..farms and communities 
I can see how Nationalists would have felt they have been abandoned all right, they got a raw deal being treated as second class citizens buy the Unionists after partition.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
Jaymack: I'm honestly interested in how Irish Republicans and Irish people feel about the division of Ireland and the creation of the 26 state Irish Republic which did not include the North of Ireland.
Do people in the Republic feel it was justified to create a state with out the North of Ireland,and do Republicans and other's in the North not feel abandoned by the creation of the Irish Republic which did not include them.
Do people in the Republic feel it was justified to create a state with out the North of Ireland,and do Republicans and other's in the North not feel abandoned by the creation of the Irish Republic which did not include them.
A lot of catholics found themselves on the 'wrong side of the line' when the border was drawn up. People forget that a lot of prods also found themselves on the wrong side of the line in reverse. Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan had large prod minorities who may have felt the same way that catholics in the six counties felt! Also there was a large prod minority in Dublin, whose numbers dwindled after 1922.
Of course the prod minority here didn't suffer the way the catholic minority in the North did, no doubt about that.
The border had to be put somewhere however as there were two nations on the one island and borders are put between nations.
(now I'll run and hide!)
GalwayGuy35: I can see how Nationalists would have felt they have been abandoned all right, they got a raw deal being treated as second class citizens buy the Unionists after partition.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
Very true.
GalwayGuy35: I can see how Nationalists would have felt they have been abandoned all right, they got a raw deal being treated as second class citizens buy the Unionists after partition.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
I think if the brits had their way they would cut all ties with Ireland but they have this sense of duty to "their" people in the 6 counties..the 6 counties gets a block grant of 12 billion sterling a year..seems very generous doesn't it but they won't say how much they are getting back in tax returns..I suspect they are making huge losses..let the brits keep it because its bleeding them dry..the 6 counties couldn't stand on its own 2 feet if they wanted too and the south couldn't take them as part of a united Ireland..sure the 26 counties can't even look after themselves never mind adding another 6
GalwayGuy35: I can see how Nationalists would have felt they have been abandoned all right, they got a raw deal being treated as second class citizens buy the Unionists after partition.
Discrimination still exists, in particular discrimination against the North West, getting jobs across the Glenshane is one example, unemployment; poverty etc etc are higher in the North West with the Derry & Strabane District Council area topping the jobless pile. Our university getting cuts after cuts with courses heading to Belfast again. Oh the raw deal still exists.
And don't get me started on their preference for the A6 over the A5
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Time will tell
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
Discrimination still exists, in particular discrimination against the North West, getting jobs across the Glenshane is one example, unemployment; poverty etc etc are higher in the North West with the Derry & Strabane District Council area topping the jobless pile. Our university getting cuts after cuts with courses heading to Belfast again. Oh the raw deal still exists.
And don't get me started on their preference for the A6 over the A5
But that all happened long before any of us were around, now I doubt many of them would vote to join the Republic if there was a referendum on partition..
Time will tell
Their services which are funded by the British are a lot better than ours.
And many are a bloody lot worse
WittyandWise: And many are a bloody lot worse
Yes but in that vote we would be also voting down here as well, judging by what we saw during the flags protest and what happened when the Loyalists tried marching in Dublin I think most of us would rather stick our hand in the fire than have to deal with that lot.
Most of them hate us in the south anyway.
Also the cost of running NI is huge, the Brits have the money to pump into it, we don't.
It's very sad indeed Witty that Irish people can desert other Irish people.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
Jaymack: It's very sad indeed Witty that Irish people can desert other Irish people.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
And what have SF and the Left ever done for us, nothing that's what.
GalwayGuy35: Half the population of the North would rather set themselves on fire rather than have a United Ireland, personally I would love to see the country as one again and everyone happy to agree to it but I just can't see it happening in our lifetime anyway.
Nor in our children's lifetimes as it will take generations for the bitterness to die away..
Ironically the IRA terror campaign set back the cause of a united Ireland by generations.
Jaymack: It's very sad indeed Witty that Irish people can desert other Irish people.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
Says a lot about those type of people really.
It's still happening even in the Republic and to those living in the 26 Counties.
F/G and F/F and the Labour Party abandon there people for greed and personal gain continually and have been doing it since the founding of the Irish Republic.
The Brown paper bag, back handing parasites they are,there a disgrace to the Irish Nation and all the people of Ireland South and North.
Finally people are becoming very aware of there treacherous deed's.
are these homeless people you're on about?
I thought the brown envelope was used
GalwayGuy35: And what have SF and the Left ever done for us, nothing that's what.
GalwayGuy35: Half the population of the North would rather set themselves on fire rather than have a United Ireland, personally I would love to see the country as one again and everyone happy to agree to it but I just can't see it happening in our lifetime anyway.
Thats a great idea..self immolation of the unionist population of ni..fantastic
GalwayGuy35: And what have SF and the Left ever done for us, nothing that's what.
They've done nothing because they've never been given a chance in Government thats why..they've only ever been a thorn in the side of bigger stronger parties of the right like FG and FF who've made up all governments so far with the exception of Labour in this current fiasco..Labour have sold out on their traditional values and done a deal with the devil
In response to: I'm honestly interested in how Irish Republicans and Irish people feel about the division of Ireland and the creation of the 26 state Irish Republic which did not include the North of Ireland.
Do people in the Republic feel it was justified to create a state with out the North of Ireland,and do Republicans and other's in the North not feel abandoned by the creation of the Irish Republic which did not include them.
Do people in the Republic feel it was justified to create a state with out the North of Ireland,and do Republicans and other's in the North not feel abandoned by the creation of the Irish Republic which did not include them.
Jay what you and others call the Irish Republic is anything but. What the 26 counties are is a democracy (ie Mob Rule).....
And it is as simple as that...
GalwayGuy35: Yes but in that vote we would be also voting down here as well, judging by what we saw during the flags protest and what happened when the Loyalists tried marching in Dublin I think most of us would rather stick our hand in the fire than have to deal with that lot.
Most of them hate us in the south anyway.
Also the cost of running NI is huge, the Brits have the money to pump into it, we don't.
Most of them hate us in the south anyway.
Also the cost of running NI is huge, the Brits have the money to pump into it, we don't.
Wouldn't agree with this GG.
I think most down here would vote for a 32 county republic.
Aragorn11: Wouldn't agree with this GG.
I think most down here would vote for a 32 county republic.
I think most down here would vote for a 32 county republic.
What I find strange (for want of a better word) is how many people here and else where do know what Republican Ideology actually is. Most mistake Republicanism with wars or Democracies and Republicanism is neither a war ideology nor mob rule......
Phoenix: What I find strange (for want of a better word) is how many people here and else where do know what Republican Ideology actually is. Most mistake Republicanism with wars or Democracies and Republicanism is neither a war ideology nor mob rule......
A republic is a country not run by a monarch, where people are led to believe they have a genuine say in the running of the country, because they are allowed to vote. Whereas the actual power is in the hands of few powerful shadowy people in actuality.
mollybaby: A republic is a country not run by a monarch, where people are led to believe they have a genuine say in the running of the country, because they are allowed to vote. Whereas the actual power is in the hands of few powerful shadowy people in actuality.
What you have described Molly is more a kin to an Oligarchy.... Deffo not a Republic....
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Do people in the Republic feel it was justified to create a state with out the North of Ireland,and do Republicans and other's in the North not feel abandoned by the creation of the Irish Republic which did not include them.