Life is precious (20)

May 29, 2013 1:50 AM CST Life is precious
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
Hope this thread is not to heavy for CS and apologies in advance to anyone who may have had personal experiences similar. I don't intend to upset anyone........

Our workplace received a big shock today when we heard the news that one of our colleagues had taken their own life. moping

The first thing I thought of was my last conversation with this person and could I have known how they were feeling. It's so very very sad for the person and the family.

This person was not happy with the work situation they were in. They had been moved about without much choice and forced to work part time in two locations.

They obviously had many issues both at work and in their personal lives and honestly, I will never understand what drives a person to see that as their only option.

We have all felt depression at some time or another.....but this must be something far far worse.

I just wish that those people suffering will seek help from somewhere, either family, friends or professionals before it's too late.

We are all reeling and shocked and wish we could turn back to clock and have done something to help this poor person. so sad.......
May 29, 2013 2:02 AM CST Life is precious
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
May 29, 2013 2:05 AM CST Life is precious
kizzy27
kizzy27kizzy27a south coast beach, New South Wales Australia106 Threads 6 Polls 7,413 Posts
Hi Lilee , Sorry for your loss ,I too lost a friend recently (April) so I get how your feeling ,Its like if only I knew ... Maybe I could have said or done something!However what Ive discovered is a successful suicide is more often than not a well thought out plan that has been well prepared for.The person involved has made a solid decision and there was probobly nothing anyone could have said or done at this point.I am a big fan of the RUOK Day Its basic ally a call out for all of us to look out of our daily routine and ask friends or people in our circles Are you ok?By reaching out to those who may not have the courage to ask for help we may actually be saving lives ....Ask your boss for some councelling its free through your work.
teddybear sad flower
May 29, 2013 2:06 AM CST Life is precious
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
hug
May 29, 2013 2:14 AM CST Life is precious
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
kizzy27: Hi Lilee , Sorry for your loss ,I too lost a friend recently (April) so I get how your feeling ,Its like if only I knew ... Maybe I could have said or done something!However what Ive discovered is a successful suicide is more often than not a well thought out plan that has been well prepared for.The person involved has made a solid decision and there was probobly nothing anyone could have said or done at this point.I am a big fan of the RUOK Day Its basic ally a call out for all of us to look out of our daily routine and ask friends or people in our circles Are you ok?By reaching out to those who may not have the courage to ask for help we may actually be saving lives ....Ask your boss for some councelling its free through your work.


Thanks for your support Kizzy and Reo. Sadly Kizzy, I feel your are right when you say there was probably nothing we could have done.

Life had become isolated for this person because they only seemed to see the negative. Others tended to distance themselves from this as no amount of reassuring or encouragement appeared to change their point of view. Which in turn made the situation worse for this person.

Yes let us all make an effort to ask those we spend our days with if they are okay and maybe listen to a little moaning from others more often in the hope that by listening we are helping in some small way to let them know we care....hug
May 29, 2013 2:40 AM CST Life is precious
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
LiLee: Hope this thread is not to heavy for CS and apologies in advance to anyone who may have had personal experiences similar. I don't intend to upset anyone........

Our workplace received a big shock today when we heard the news that one of our colleagues had taken their own life.

The first thing I thought of was my last conversation with this person and could I have known how they were feeling. It's so very very sad for the person and the family.

This person was not happy with the work situation they were in. They had been moved about without much choice and forced to work part time in two locations.

They obviously had many issues both at work and in their personal lives and honestly, I will never understand what drives a person to see that as their only option.

We have all felt depression at some time or another.....but this must be something far far worse.

I just wish that those people suffering will seek help from somewhere, either family, friends or professionals before it's too late.

We are all reeling and shocked and wish we could turn back to clock and have done something to help this poor person. so sad.......




Sadly suicide is a permanent solution to usually a temporary problem ... and sadly so many, get so down, that they feel they cannot go on ...


I once wrote a poem about depression, and I'll post it here ... because it is such a misunderstood illness ....


Its titled 'Depression'


I feel a gap increasing, as my life, goes on
A broken piece of ground, from days long gone
Missing places and people, as we sometimes do
Maybe in my private thoughts, one of them is you

I cannot change events, nor can I right a wrong
If I could, well no, I’ll just move it, right along
A distance that keeps increasing, no matter what I say
As one rolls in to another, yeah, another lonely day

I so often wonder about my purpose each awakening day
Sometimes I ask myself, if god called me, what I’d really say
How do I say sorry or repent my misgivings, from days past
Why do I worry about mistakes that seem endless and vast?

All is not as it seems, and happiness has gone away
Yet I get out of bed and do the mundane, day after day
I read of kiddies whom are so ill, and so unfairly dying
I have good health and life, yet I want to just stop trying

There seems a lack of logic and I wonder how I ended up here
Was it that I lacked the courage, you know, surrender to my fear
Maybe I have just realized, this is an un-winnable fight
Let me tell you people, this was my haunted dream late last night

I don’t have any answers and nor do I have the clues
Yet day after day depressions onslaught, leaves me with the blues
Another day to tackle, with some more than less clouding up my mind
Maybe my reason for life, might be in a lesson today, that I may find

Please don’t ask if I am ok, cause you know I will say I am
Don’t tell me you are concerned when I myself, don’t give a damn
This is not a cry for help, more, a letter of hope and understanding
One of the many pitfalls of depression, an illness so cruel and demanding.
May 29, 2013 2:57 AM CST Life is precious
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
PrOwLeR_: Sadly suicide is a permanent solution to usually a temporary problem ... and sadly so many, get so down, that they feel they cannot go on ...I once wrote a poem about depression, and I'll post it here ... because it is such a misunderstood illness ....Its titled 'Depression'I feel a gap increasing, as my life, goes on
A broken piece of ground, from days long gone
Missing places and people, as we sometimes do
Maybe in my private thoughts, one of them is you

I cannot change events, nor can I right a wrong
If I could, well no, I’ll just move it, right along
A distance that keeps increasing, no matter what I say
As one rolls in to another, yeah, another lonely day

I so often wonder about my purpose each awakening day
Sometimes I ask myself, if god called me, what I’d really say
How do I say sorry or repent my misgivings, from days past
Why do I worry about mistakes that seem endless and vast?

All is not as it seems, and happiness has gone away
Yet I get out of bed and do the mundane, day after day
I read of kiddies whom are so ill, and so unfairly dying
I have good health and life, yet I want to just stop trying

There seems a lack of logic and I wonder how I ended up here
Was it that I lacked the courage, you know, surrender to my fear
Maybe I have just realized, this is an un-winnable fight
Let me tell you people, this was my haunted dream late last night

I don’t have any answers and nor do I have the clues
Yet day after day depressions onslaught, leaves me with the blues
Another day to tackle, with some more than less clouding up my mind
Maybe my reason for life, might be in a lesson today, that I may find

Please don’t ask if I am ok, cause you know I will say I am
Don’t tell me you are concerned when I myself, don’t give a damn
This is not a cry for help, more, a letter of hope and understanding
One of the many pitfalls of depression, an illness so cruel and demanding.
guess the black dogs have come.....again ta get me
May 29, 2013 3:03 AM CST Life is precious
Obscuritan
ObscuritanObscuritanMelbourne, Victoria Australia37 Threads 3 Polls 1,284 Posts
Very sorry to hear that Lilee. blues
Would be a tremendous shock to hear that at work.
We had one guy was killed in a motorbike accident, but suicide would be worse as you would be thinking, why didn't I do something to prevent this?

Prowler, that's a great poem and really captures the nature of depression. Very true that when someone ask how you are, you always say fine, because you really don't want to be talking about it. As you say because you really don't care anymore.
So the "R u OK", i don't see as much good. However, a general chat would certainly be good at any time, with someone who genuinely takes the time to listen.
I've had my depressive times over the years but am pretty good now. Still a long way to go though.
May 29, 2013 3:07 AM CST Life is precious
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
a friend of a friend hung himself just over a year ago........my thoughts at the time were that if he wasnt drinking that night he wouldnt have done it...........one thing i have learnt is that some people internalise their problems and some ppl externalise them.at the extreme ends of this scale is suicide(internalising) and murder(externalising)i hate to think that any of my friends or family would ever do this and really wish that ppl would talk their problems out in a safe way,call lifeline or get a councillor or join a support group, a problem shared is a problem halved
May 29, 2013 3:16 AM CST Life is precious
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
Obscuritan: Very sorry to hear that Lilee.
Would be a tremendous shock to hear that at work.
We had one guy was killed in a motorbike accident, but suicide would be worse as you would be thinking, why didn't I do something to prevent this?

Prowler, that's a great poem and really captures the nature of depression. Very true that when someone ask how you are, you always say fine, because you really don't want to be talking about it. As you say because you really don't care anymore.
So the "R u OK", i don't see as much good. However, a general chat would certainly be good at any time, with someone who genuinely takes the time to listen.
I've had my depressive times over the years but am pretty good now. Still a long way to go though.




The key is to talk about depression, the more people that understand it, then less lonely the sufferers will feel ...


Everybody falls down now and again ... and there is nothing wrong when you fall to just sit a moment and reflect, before you decide to back up onto your feet ..

Thats when an outstretched hand from a passer by or a friend can be the most amazing feeling in the whole world ...

I feel for the ones whom don't make it, it must be a mighty lonely place to find yourself in ...
May 29, 2013 4:27 AM CST Life is precious
asha69
asha69asha69perth, Western Australia Australia76 Threads 1 Polls 1,799 Posts
LiLee: Hope this thread is not to heavy for CS and apologies in advance to anyone who may have had personal experiences similar. I don't intend to upset anyone........

Our workplace received a big shock today when we heard the news that one of our colleagues had taken their own life.

The first thing I thought of was my last conversation with this person and could I have known how they were feeling. It's so very very sad for the person and the family.

This person was not happy with the work situation they were in. They had been moved about without much choice and forced to work part time in two locations.

They obviously had many issues both at work and in their personal lives and honestly, I will never understand what drives a person to see that as their only option.

We have all felt depression at some time or another.....but this must be something far far worse.

I just wish that those people suffering will seek help from somewhere, either family, friends or professionals before it's too late.

We are all reeling and shocked and wish we could turn back to clock and have done something to help this poor person. so sad.......




that is soooo sadcrying how many times when we have been down, people say "cheer up, it may never happen" someone so down cannot instantly cheer up, its not a choice to be depressed, and for the poor souls that take their own lives, they are so far down at rock bottom in their thoughts, i dont really think anything could help them,i think once they decide to do it, its done, and its so sad for the people left behind too. i think most people have been there at least once in their lives and managed to come out of it, i also think, just my opinion, that we all need something to look forwards to in our lives, if we cant see anything but darkness, thats awful.sad flower
May 29, 2013 5:43 AM CST Life is precious
serene56
serene56serene56Myplace, New South Wales Australia543 Threads 10 Polls 27,957 Posts
Dear LiLee, I feel for you -

Suicide is a terrible thing and so hard to deal with.

It affects everyone who knew that person, and one can't help but wonder if they could have helped.

But no, sadly, people who have reached a point in their lives where they see no option but to seek oblivion are mostly beyond help.

And to be honest, as far as the people in my life who have taken that road .. well, I can only think that now they are at peace and no longer struggling with the hell on earth that they once were.

If you recall the 'pain is inevitable, suffering is optional' quote that I passed on to you, well, that's to do with how I'm still trying to come to terms with the death of two men who I once knew and loved who both made that decision.

Difficult.
May 29, 2013 5:59 AM CST Life is precious
curly28
curly28curly28Perth, Western Australia Australia53 Threads 5,450 Posts
LiLee: Hope this thread is not to heavy for CS and apologies in advance to anyone who may have had personal experiences similar. I don't intend to upset anyone........

Our workplace received a big shock today when we heard the news that one of our colleagues had taken their own life.

The first thing I thought of was my last conversation with this person and could I have known how they were feeling. It's so very very sad for the person and the family.

This person was not happy with the work situation they were in. They had been moved about without much choice and forced to work part time in two locations.

They obviously had many issues both at work and in their personal lives and honestly, I will never understand what drives a person to see that as their only option.

We have all felt depression at some time or another.....but this must be something far far worse.

I just wish that those people suffering will seek help from somewhere, either family, friends or professionals before it's too late.

We are all reeling and shocked and wish we could turn back to clock and have done something to help this poor person. so sad.......


Incredibly sad to hear and I feel for you and your work mates having to come to terms with one of your work colleagues taking their life. I hope there is some counselling for anyone at your work & their family and close friends who needs it. hug comfort sad flower
May 29, 2013 6:00 AM CST Life is precious
jem1964
jem1964jem1964Foothills of Dandenongs, Victoria Australia30 Threads 1 Polls 2,441 Posts
hug LiLee

nothing can make sense of something like this, never can and never will.

We are the only ones responsible for our own actions, and we cannot change the actions or take responsibility for the actions of others.

you all would be reeling and shocked, no one would expect anything else. Just try to talk about it to others and that the others affected talk too. Dont let the darkness left by the action win
May 29, 2013 6:58 AM CST Life is precious
LiLee
LiLeeLiLeeIpswich, Queensland Australia53 Threads 1,760 Posts
Thank you all for your kind words and Prowler for sharing your poem. bouquet

We will be supporting each other at work and I am lucky to have met all you lovely people here on this forum. hug

Luv you guys teddybear
May 29, 2013 3:20 PM CST Life is precious
reolvine420
reolvine420reolvine420taupo, Waikato New Zealand139 Threads 13 Polls 1,297 Posts
LiLee: Thank you all for your kind words and Prowler for sharing your poem.

We will be supporting each other at work and I am lucky to have met all you lovely people here on this forum.

Luv you guys
back at ya....comfort hug
May 29, 2013 3:50 PM CST Life is precious
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Humans are not the only living creatures that succumb to pressures and commit suicide, whales, fish, monkeys..etc The actually cause of SIB has never been established, like Prowler said it’s a permanent solution to a temporary problem but you cannot avoid death itself.
May 29, 2013 4:54 PM CST Life is precious
Peneloperosejae
PeneloperosejaePeneloperosejaeIpswich, Queensland Australia3 Threads 53 Posts
This poetry is a beautiful piece can I ask who is the author

rose rose rose rose rose rose rose
May 29, 2013 5:40 PM CST Life is precious
PrOwLeR_
PrOwLeR_PrOwLeR_Mermaid BeacH, Queensland Australia98 Threads 1,290 Posts
Peneloperosejae: This poetry is a beautiful piece can I ask who is the author




The poem is one of mine ... I am its creator ..... tongue
May 29, 2013 7:14 PM CST Life is precious
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
PrOwLeR_: The key is to talk about depression, the more people that understand it, then less lonely the sufferers will feel ...Everybody falls down now and again ... and there is nothing wrong when you fall to just sit a moment and reflect, before you decide to back up onto your feet ..

Thats when an outstretched hand from a passer by or a friend can be the most amazing feeling in the whole world ...

I feel for the ones whom don't make it, it must be a mighty lonely place to find yourself in ...


The stigma of depression is probably why people don't want to talk about it. No longer does medication result in a person becoming a zombie.

And probably the hardest thing is recognising you have it and then dealing with it. Most workplaces nowadays have a free counselling service with no details of who visits them passed back to the employer.

While we all get a bit down about some things sometimes, there are at times we should seek professional help. Looking back over my last 3 years of my last workplace, I did go on medication from my doctor for the first year because of the manager I had. When he left, so did a lot of my problems. But it is only since I decided to quit working that I have realised that I had been sliding over the last year and realised that the workplace was my biggest problem. Maybe I should have sought counselling.
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