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Sep 24, 2014 1:58 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
One dead, two stabbed in Endeavour Hills (Melbourne)



An 18-year-old man has been shot dead by counter-terrorism police and two policemen have been stabbed in Melbourne's outer south-east.

Police said the two officers met the 18-year-old outside the Endeavour Hills police station before he lashed out at the officers with a sharp instrument. He then ran towards the police station and was shot.
An officer prepares to enter the police station.


Onlookers at the scene — who did not want to be named — said the dead man had been shouting insults at Prime Minister Tony Abbott and the Australian government in general in the moments before he was shot.


The two stabbed officers, one from Victoria Police and one from the Australian Federal Police, were working together as part of a joint operation on counter-terrorism between the AFP and Victoria Police. The operation is believed to have been running for the past two to three years.

Police say the man was involved in an ongoing investigation, but AFP Commander Bruce --- would not confirm whether the 18-year-old's passport was among those that had been suspended, as had been reported.
Police at the scene of the Endeavour Hills shooting.


However, he said, reports the man had been displaying Islamic State flags in the lead-up to police contacting him appeared to be correct.

Victoria Police Assistant Commissioner Luke Cornelius said the man had been asked to come to the police station to discuss behaviour "which had been causing some concern". When the man pulled up at the station he stabbed the two officers as they went to greet him.

"I want to make it very clear that the individual concerned who has died tonight was invited and did come of his own free will to the police station," he said.

"Our members had no inkling this individual posed a threat to them and as far as we were concerned it was going to be an amicable discussion about that individual's behaviour.

"It is also clear to us that individual has without any warning, produced a knife and assailed them with a knife.

"It's absolutely clear to us our members had no choice but to act in the way that they did."


Police sources said it was the Victorian officer who shot the man.

The federal officer was taken to The Alfred hospital in a critical condition with life-threatening injuries, but he is now in a stable condition, police said.

The Victorian officer was taken to nearby Dandenong Hospital in a less serious condition suffering stab wounds to the arms.
Where the shooting occurred.


A bomb-disposal unit was called to the scene and inspected the car and the police station.

Mr Giles said while the man did not make a bomb threat against police, the bomb squad was called to inspect his car for explosive devices.

"Whenever we deal with individuals who have clearly aimed to cause harm to police we go to exceptional lengths to ensure that the crime scene is safe" he said.

Mr Giles said the man had been acting alone and did not appear to be working with others.

Police set up a crime scene around the perimeter of the nearby Endeavour Hills shopping centre.

Homicide squad detectives are investigating the incident for the coroner, and Professional Standards Command members are overseeing the investigation.

A crowd of about 50 onlookers had gathered about 10pm. A heavy police presence was at the scene, with about a dozen officers directing onlookers to leave.

Premier Denis Napthine was briefed by the Chief Commissioner of Police, Ken Lay, on events.

Shafi Miya, who works at the petrol station opposite the Endeavour Hills police station, said he heard a shot fired sometime between 7.30pm and 8pm.

He said police had taped off the police station and Heatherton Rd was closed in both directions.

Ambulance Victoria confirmed that paramedics attended the scene but would not provide further details.

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Sep 24, 2014 2:06 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Its also reported his Passport had already been cancelled prior to him complying with a request he attend the Police Station for chat.

Armed attacked two police officers with a knife and had another knife hidden on his person; end of story Lookin
Sep 24, 2014 2:13 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
robplum: Its also reported his Passport had already been cancelled prior to him complying with a request he attend the Police Station for chat.

Armed attacked two police officers with a knife and had another knife hidden on his person; end of story Lookin



Doubt that cuz ..... Thanks for your input hug newzealand
Sep 24, 2014 2:17 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
Lookin4missright: Doubt that cuz ..... Thanks for your input


It's just the beginning me thinks.confused
Sep 24, 2014 3:28 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Melbourne terror shooting: Numan Haider 'planned to behead Victoria Police officers, drape bodies in IS flag'
pretty informitive video on this site:




Victoria Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay said the man attacked a police officer who tried to shake his hand.

Find out more about the Government's suite of proposed anti-terrorism laws targeting so-called foreign fighters and Australian terror threats.
"When our police members have approached this young man, one's extended his hand to shake his hand and the response has been he's been stabbed in the arm," he said.

"The attacker's then turned on the second police member and stabbed him three or four times in the body and in the head.

"The first wounded member has then shot and killed the young man."




The teenager shot dead after stabbing two police officers outside a Melbourne police station was once associated with the radical Islamic group called Al-Furqan.

Police have named the attacker as 18-year-old Abdul Numan Haider, an Australian citizen from Narre Warren in Melbourne's south-east. His family had come to Australia from Afghanistan.




Praise for police as terror tensions rise

Mr Haider had been asked to attend the station to answer questions about his recent behaviour, such as making comments in support of terrorism, although police later agreed he had made no "specific" threats.




that case is done and dustedtongue
Sep 24, 2014 3:34 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
robplum: Melbourne terror shooting: Numan Haider 'planned to behead Victoria Police officers, drape bodies in IS flag'
pretty informitive video on this site:

Police Chief Commissioner Ken Lay said the man attacked a police officer who tried to shake his hand.

Find out more about the Government's suite of proposed anti-terrorism laws targeting so-called foreign fighters and Australian terror threats.
"When our police members have approached this young man, one's extended his hand to shake his hand and the response has been he's been stabbed in the arm," he said.

"The attacker's then turned on the second police member and stabbed him three or four times in the body and in the head.

"The first wounded member has then shot and killed the young man."

teenager shot dead after stabbing two police officers outside a Melbourne police station was once associated with the radical Islamic group called Al-Furqan.

Police have named the attacker as 18-year-old Abdul Numan Haider, an Australian citizen from Narre Warren in Melbourne's south-east. His family had come to Australia from Afghanistan.

for police as terror tensions rise

Mr Haider had been asked to attend the station to answer questions about his recent behaviour, such as making comments in support of terrorism, although police later agreed he had made no "specific" threats.

case is done and dusted




I must've missed something confused dunno
Sep 24, 2014 3:44 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
epirb: .....rest of it ....we come in peace ,shoot to kill ,we come in peace shoot to kill ....




laugh star treckin?
Sep 24, 2014 3:47 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
Lookin4missright: star treckin?
yea
Sep 24, 2014 3:52 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
epirb: .....rest of it ....we come in peace ,shoot to kill ,we come in peace shoot to kill ....







Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward 'cause we can't find reverse.

Lt. Uhura, report.

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, Jim.

Analysis, Mr. Spock.

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it; it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, Jim.

Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward, still can't find reverse.

Medical update, Dr. McCoy.

It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead, Jim;
it's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead.

It's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it; it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, Jim.

Starship Captain, James T. Kirk:

Ah! We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill;
we come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, men.

It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead, Jim;
it's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead.

Well, it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it; it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, scrape 'em off, Jim.

Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward, and things are getting worse!

Engine room, Mr. Scott:

Ye cannae change the laws of physics, laws of physics, laws of physics;
ye cannae change the laws of physics, laws of physics, Jim.

Ah! We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill, shoot to kill;
we come in peace, shoot to kill; Scotty, beam me up!


It's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead, Jim;
it's worse than that, he's dead, Jim, dead, Jim, dead.

Well, it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, not as we know it; it's life, Jim, but not as we know it, not as we know it, Captain.

There's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow, starboard bow;
there's Klingons on the starboard bow, starboard bow Jim!

Ya cannot change the strength Jim of the engines.

It's worse than that, it's physics, Jim.

Bridge to engine room, warp factor 9.

Och, if I give it any more she'll blow, Cap'n!

Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward 'cause we can't find reverse.

Star Trekkin' across the universe,
On the Starship Enterprise under Captain Kirk.
Star Trekkin' across the universe,
Boldly going forward, still can't find reverse.



I knew i heard it somewhere laugh transport tinfoil hat

.... Sorry Jim hug grin cheers


full song on my pic thread transport choir
Sep 24, 2014 4:51 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
wash2u
wash2uwash2uMelbourne, Victoria Australia79 Threads 1 Polls 3,768 Posts
robplum: Its also reported his Passport had already been cancelled prior to him complying with a request he attend the Police Station for chat.

Armed attacked two police officers with a knife and had another knife hidden on his person; end of story Lookin


Having a link or 2 to the legal profession and to VicPol, it is interesting to hear the different stories that have evolved very close to me.

This person of interest had yesterday attended a local shopping centre wearing an IS flag demonstrating his hatred towards Australians (I have been informed that there were quite a few SMS messages to wives to avoid that shopping centre).

The Federal Police were aware of the association that this b]person of interest had with known or suspect terrorist organisations. Along with many other people but who have not shown any radical inclination.

The Federal or State Police (not clear who at this time) had requested that this person of interest come to Endeavour Hills Police Station (his nearest) to explain his actions.

On his arrival at Endeavour Hills, the Australian Federal Police Officer approached the person of interest with his arm extended to shake his hand in a demonstration of frienship to discuss a satisfactory resolotution of a conflict of ideals.

The AFP officer is in the Alfred Hospital in a critical condition awaiting surgery for the injuries this 18 yo inflicted on him after his extension of "friendship"....no it was more "Let's discuss this" when he was stabbed in the stomach.

At this time, I am thinking that maybe my family members dealing with the conflicts in the Solomon Islands have a few less worries than us here on the mainland.
Sep 24, 2014 6:20 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
My thoughts are:

I find it strange that after having lived most of my life happily without ever having the need to ask my friends, acquaintances... what religion are you... and never having the need to know, and never having any discussion whatsoever around this... that all of a sudden... the word religion features predominately in our daily lives...

and I find that very very uncomfortable and most annoying..

Bit like a really pesky fly that has its intentions to settle on my body without my permission... very mad

That we need now to turn our attention to this stuff is highly annoying... as if we don't have better things to be mindful of... professor


That the 1% radicals are making it a big deal for our country is really annoying, and worse still...

now we have some injured police and one dead lad...

This is not the aussie way... sigh
Sep 24, 2014 6:36 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
Lookin4missright
Lookin4missrightLookin4missrightmelbourne, Victoria Australia400 Threads 24,032 Posts
Merriweather: My thoughts are:

I find it strange that after having lived most of my life happily without ever having the need to ask my friends, acquaintances... what religion are you... and never having the need to know, and never having any discussion whatsoever around this... that all of a sudden... the word religion features predominately in our daily lives...

and I find that very very uncomfortable and most annoying..

Bit like a really pesky fly that has its intentions to settle on my body without my permission...

That we need now to turn our attention to this stuff is highly annoying... as if we don't have better things to be mindful of... That the 1% radicals are making it a big deal for our country is really annoying, and worse still...

now we have some injured police and one dead lad...

This is not the aussie way...





Best post i have read in a long while thumbs up thumbs up thumbs up australia so true.bouquet
Sep 24, 2014 1:33 PM CST What are your thoughts?????
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Merriweather: My thoughts are:

I find it strange that after having lived most of my life happily without ever having the need to ask my friends, acquaintances... what religion are you... and never having the need to know, and never having any discussion whatsoever around this... that all of a sudden... the word religion features predominately in our daily lives...

and I find that very very uncomfortable and most annoying..

Bit like a really pesky fly that has its intentions to settle on my body without my permission...

That we need now to turn our attention to this stuff is highly annoying... as if we don't have better things to be mindful of... That the 1% radicals are making it a big deal for our country is really annoying, and worse still...

now we have some injured police and one dead lad...

This is not the aussie way...
absolute nonsense, they are 99% radical. You base your opinion on one or two people you might know that seem ok.
Sep 24, 2014 3:49 PM CST What are your thoughts?????
Had it not been the case that the assailant in the first instance had attacked the State Police Officer, not the Federal Officer.
There may have been a defence the assailant perceived the Federal Officer was extending the hand of friendship on behalf of the Prime Minister of Australia and the assailant reasonably perceived that the hand extending the hand of friendship was extended on behalf of a lair and a thief…
Sep 24, 2014 4:37 PM CST What are your thoughts?????
Merriweather
MerriweatherMerriweatherAdelaide, South Australia Australia51 Threads 11,403 Posts
AgentAjax: absolute nonsense, they are 99% radical. You base your opinion on one or two people you might know that seem ok.



AA... I put my thoughts down, and you say 'absolute nonsense'

who are you to say what I think. you can say you don't agree, but to deny me the right to say what I think is
absolute nonsense...

Show me you cert that says you have a degree in mind reading..??doh
Sep 24, 2014 5:57 PM CST What are your thoughts?????
cruiser68
cruiser68cruiser68Red Cliffs, Victoria Australia9 Threads 704 Posts
AgentAjax: absolute nonsense, they are 99% radical. You base your opinion on one or two people you might know that seem ok.



The ones I know personaly are more fanatical they hate the "west" and its culture and will do their best to destroy our way of life and choice of faith, THEY ARE HERE ON A MISSION FROM ALLAH... And openly state it in any conversation....

MARK MY WORDS

What happened in Melbourne, was, only the start of WHATS COMING......
Sep 24, 2014 9:54 PM CST What are your thoughts?????
friend visited out the back of Burke, found 90 cal cartridges laying around on a property owned by believers in a one God
Sep 25, 2014 1:45 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
robplum: friend visited out the back of Burke, found 90 cal cartridges laying around on a property owned by believers in a one God
.90 or .60 Robo either way a bullet that means it . Thought the cases lying around here were big .
Sep 25, 2014 2:19 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
AgentAjax
AgentAjaxAgentAjaxBrisbane, Queensland Australia81 Threads 1 Polls 3,965 Posts
Merriweather: AA... I put my thoughts down, and you say 'absolute nonsense'

who are you to say what I think. you can say you don't agree, but to deny me the right to say what I think is
absolute nonsense...

Show me you cert that says you have a degree in mind reading..??
You put the post on a public board I can give it any value I like, I chose to value it as nonsense. I mean seriously 1% where did you get this figure from? I can tell you I've been eating Kebabs since 14 years of age and your figures are not even close.grin
Sep 25, 2014 2:52 AM CST What are your thoughts?????
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
AgentAjax: obviously this ISIS radicals had no idea that France was not supporting USA.... dumb as doggy poo.
The French are bombing ISIL , started before US .
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