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Feb 28, 2012 12:07 PM CSTWe've To Get A Referendum Again.
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare, Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts

We've To Get A Referendum Again.(Vote Below)

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YES
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37%
NO
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63%
Total Votes
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OK. This is going to boil down to: Do we accept a federal Europe with all its conditions with the bail out etc? Yes or No? No BS!

conversing
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Feb 28, 2012 12:22 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sexydivabella
sexydivabellasexydivabellaDrogheda, Dublin Ireland44 Threads 4 Polls 5,978 Posts
I think a massive percent of the country will vote no as a snub/2 fingers salute to the current govt....
I hope people at least read up on it all and inform themselves typing writing
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Feb 28, 2012 12:48 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
the thick paddy isn't fit for self government especially when ff keep getting elected time and time again. I'll probably vote no as the proposals don't go far enough, paddy needs to be a thought a lesson in budgetary self restraint.
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Feb 28, 2012 1:06 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
vote yes and no, can't go wrong...laugh
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Feb 28, 2012 1:18 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
laurak
lauraklauraktipperay, Tipperary Ireland4 Threads 3 Polls 21 Posts
I def a no vote
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Feb 28, 2012 2:01 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
I am sure the Government will use every scare tactic they can to frighten the meek and mild Irish into a yes vote, just like they did with Lisbon 2, and there will be many who will fall for it, but this is one more nail in the coffin for sovereignty, one more step towards domination of the people of Europe by a centralised Brussels, jumping to the tune of Germany and France.
The Government haven't the guts or guile to stick up to Europe, I wonder if the people of Ireland have?
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Feb 28, 2012 2:05 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
fifitheminx
fifitheminxfifitheminxDublin, Ireland35 Threads 4,039 Posts
MarsMan: I am sure the Government will use every scare tactic they can to frighten the meek and mild Irish into a yes vote, just like they did with Lisbon 2, and there will be many who will fall for it, but this is one more nail in the coffin for sovereignty, one more step towards domination of the people of Europe by a centralised Brussels, jumping to the tune of Germany and France.
The Government haven't the guts or guile to stick up to Europe, I wonder if the people of Ireland have?


yep...govt is going..here have ur say..but the megaphone only has one word function..YES

people will tell all and sundry they are voting NO and walk in and place the handcuffs on secretly.
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Feb 28, 2012 2:13 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sexydivabella
sexydivabellasexydivabellaDrogheda, Dublin Ireland44 Threads 4 Polls 5,978 Posts
fifitheminx: yep...govt is going..here have ur say..but the megaphone only has one word function..YES

people will tell all and sundry they are voting NO and walk in and place the handcuffs on secretly.


I will keep my handcuffs for the bedroom only devil
I voted no to Lisbon
and when we got a smack on the hand and had to vote again....I still voted NO
Am just an obstinate auld biddy really laugh
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Feb 28, 2012 2:18 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sexydivabella
sexydivabellasexydivabellaDrogheda, Dublin Ireland44 Threads 4 Polls 5,978 Posts
fifitheminx: meet ur sister lol


what a fantastic family grin
am honoured! bouquet bouquet bouquet
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Feb 28, 2012 2:23 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
martini100
martini100martini100wexford, Wexford Ireland19 Threads 2,158 Posts
I'm going for the NO vote too, enough dictating going on as it is without the French and Germans at it too!
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Feb 28, 2012 2:25 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sexydivabella
sexydivabellasexydivabellaDrogheda, Dublin Ireland44 Threads 4 Polls 5,978 Posts
martini100: I'm going for the NO vote too, enough dictating going on as it is without the French and Germans at it too!


I was racking my brain wondering who would vote YES? Maybe "corporate Ireland" confused

The rest of us have been hit very hard and I reckon the NO will sail through.....grin
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Feb 28, 2012 2:47 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
Godsgift: OK. This is going to boil down to: Do we accept a federal Europe with all its conditions with the bail out etc? Yes or No? No BS!


I will be voting a big NO. The referendum is about accepting rules laid down by Germany and France on how to run our economy in the future. It is mainly about government spending. What Europe fails to see and have failed to see up until now is it wasn't government spending got us in this mess. Greece is the only country government spending can be blamed. All the rest of the countries in trouble are in that situation because of reckless banks! And this new fiscal treaty has no new rules for them. Not one law has changed or one new rule come in to make sure the banks don't do the same thing in a few years! All Europe is interested in is cutting government spending and leaving the banks alone! doh frustrated very mad frustrated
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Feb 28, 2012 2:58 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
vinny1967
vinny1967vinny1967Dublin, Cork Ireland131 Threads 7 Polls 11,475 Posts
Godsgift: OK. This is going to boil down to: Do we accept a federal Europe with all its conditions with the bail out etc? Yes or No? No BS!


Yes grin

shock

very happy
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Feb 28, 2012 3:06 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
scriobhneoir
scriobhneoirscriobhneoirCork, Ireland85 Threads 2 Polls 3,276 Posts
Good. It's a long time since I've gotten to vote no on something.laugh
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Feb 28, 2012 3:06 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
dazchef
dazchefdazchefennis, Clare Ireland1 Threads 50 Posts
dont ye all realise that if ye vote no then the sky will fall down ( or is that chicken little)
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Feb 28, 2012 3:09 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
Urbuddy
UrbuddyUrbuddyYellow Brick Rd , Larganville, Mayo Ireland94 Threads 4 Polls 2,441 Posts
Godsgift: OK. This is going to boil down to: Do we accept a federal Europe with all its conditions with the bail out etc? Yes or No? No BS!
No and no again to any successive 'reconstituted/reworded' of same referendum after this one . What part of that two letter word don't they understand from Lisbon etc
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Feb 28, 2012 3:17 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
Godsgift
GodsgiftGodsgiftEnnis, Clare Ireland251 Threads 13 Polls 10,040 Posts
vinny1967: Yes




Persecute the heretic! grin
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Feb 28, 2012 3:29 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
MarsMan
MarsManMarsManBobbing along, Cork Ireland29 Threads 8 Polls 981 Posts
I just saw Eamon (frankfurt's way) Givememore on the telly, saying a yes vote was "vital," to our economy, jobs, recovery...etc, etc. I wonder where I heard that before, was it the Nice treaty maybe, or was it Maastricht or then again was it Lisbon, then again maybe I have heard so many times before at every damn vote, council, national and referendum I no longer believe a word of it!!!
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Feb 28, 2012 3:32 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
sofarsogood74: Pat Rabbitte was on the news at 6. He said if we vote No then they will accept the vote. He said there will be only one vote.
i wouldn't mind him, they said the same the last time but yet supported it the second time
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Feb 28, 2012 3:33 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
Godsgift: Well they didn't the last twice. Obviously they hadn't explained it properly.
my gut feeling is that it will be a yes vote so they won't have to worry about a second vote
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Feb 28, 2012 3:35 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
jimbo79: i wouldn't mind him, they said the same the last time but yet supported it the second time


True. Can't believe a word from any of their mouths. The have lied so much that I can't see people listening to them. But according to a poll done by red c recently the yes vote is ahead by a few %.
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Feb 28, 2012 3:38 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
jimbo79
jimbo79jimbo79carlow, Carlow Ireland85 Threads 8 Polls 4,259 Posts
sofarsogood74: True. Can't believe a word from any of their mouths. The have lied so much that I can't see people listening to them. But according to a poll done by red c recently the yes vote is ahead by a few %.
i reckon by polling day it could be a 60 40 on the yes side
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Feb 28, 2012 7:19 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
DrBob
DrBobDrBobCo. Kilkenny, Kilkenny Ireland1 Threads 43 Posts
Would it be within reason to say that a "yes" vote will basically mean a decade, or possibly longer, of cuts in Government spending and increases in indirect taxation, ie Vat, property tax, car tax etc and the eventual raising of this corporate tax which the French seem to have a big issue with.

We should tell Europe to go to hell(or words to that effect) and throw our lot in with Canada......we'll probably all have emigrated there soon anyway
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Feb 28, 2012 9:26 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
paddy101
paddy101paddy101cork, Cork Ireland9 Threads 2 Polls 41 Posts
I will vote no because the last time the we vote no EU Edit the treaty for Ireland to get us to vote yes, which made the treaty better for Ireland.with any luck will mean they will have to give us cheaper bailout make us vote yes this time.
But we vote no it will be a slap in the face for the EU
Which i can,t wait to rain on there idea of perfect Europe
barf
......hug .........tongue
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Mar 1, 2012 8:10 AM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
paddy101: I will vote no because the last time the we vote no EU Edit the treaty for Ireland to get us to vote yes, which made the treaty better for Ireland.with any luck will mean they will have to give us cheaper bailout make us vote yes this time.
But we vote no it will be a slap in the face for the EU
Which i can,t wait to rain on there idea of perfect Europe

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paddy i think you might have something there though i suspect they may offer somting in return for a yes vote before the treaty vote
if they can do it for greece why not ireland
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Mar 1, 2012 12:56 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
paddy101: I will vote no because the last time the we vote no EU Edit the treaty for Ireland to get us to vote yes, which made the treaty better for Ireland.with any luck will mean they will have to give us cheaper bailout make us vote yes this time.
But we vote no it will be a slap in the face for the EU
Which i can,t wait to rain on there idea of perfect Europe

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Europe couldnt care less what way we vote, they will move on regardless. Its not like other votes where they need every country to pass the Treaty.
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Mar 1, 2012 1:19 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
sofarsogood74
sofarsogood74sofarsogood74Dublin, Ireland40 Threads 4 Polls 2,711 Posts
GalwayGuy35: Europe couldnt care less what way we vote, they will move on regardless. Its not like other votes where they need every country to pass the Treaty.



I don't think people will vote No because they think Europe wants us to vote yes. I think people will vote no because they want to let our government know they are sick of austerity and spending cuts. Government spending did not get Ireland into this mess so this fiscal treaty is a joke. They should be looking at bringing in rules for banks and other financial organisations before dictating to us.
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Mar 1, 2012 2:03 PM CST We've To Get A Referendum Again.
GalwayGuy35
GalwayGuy35GalwayGuy35galway, Galway Ireland25 Threads 1,537 Posts
sofarsogood74: I don't think people will vote No because they think Europe wants us to vote yes. I think people will vote no because they want to let our government know they are sick of austerity and spending cuts. Government spending did not get Ireland into this mess so this fiscal treaty is a joke. They should be looking at bringing in rules for banks and other financial organisations before dictating to us.


I agree that the people will use their vote to hit out at the Government. Although the Taoiseach wont admit it i would this that this is his worst nghtmare as they already have a fight on their hands with the household charge and septic tank charges as well.
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