Astrology: Fact or Fiction? (127)
BnaturAl: geez I hope so ... though I would prefer the word come instead of degenerate
Thanks for proving my case, B.
BnaturAl: I went to see a genuine astrologist and when before Ii sat down, she said "are you supposed to be somewhere else too?" Damed if I hadnt set up two appn'ts at the same time. Accurate. She also predicted/saw my move to Florida, the woman that I married, how long it would last as well as my son's appearance. A Little more than that as well, that I am unwilling to share here. However, an astologist who knows the art can accurately predict. Unfortuneately there many in it for the money and know little about how. It takes years to get all the information down and be able to piece it all together.
What does that have to do with astrology (knew something about you before you even sat down). Those kinds of predictions are what psychics are infamous for. A psychic predicted awhile back that a dude with receding and curly hair would "rock her world," so I'm thinking there has to be something to that.
Makes me wonder if I should start another poll about belief in psychic phenomena.
A philosophic troublemaker's job, apparently, is never done.
Ambrose2007: What does that have to do with astrology (knew something about you before you even sat down). Those kinds of predictions are what psychics are infamous for. A psychic predicted awhile back that a dude with receding and curly hair would "rock her world," so I'm thinking there has to be something to that.
Makes me wonder if I should start another poll about belief in psychic phenomena. A philosophic troublemaker's job, apparently, is never done.
Makes me wonder if I should start another poll about belief in psychic phenomena. A philosophic troublemaker's job, apparently, is never done.
By "her," I meant my current gf, of course.
Sheesh.
Hi everyone..
I think astrology has some scientific bases, we do live and interact under the influences of the planets of our solar system...I think it's a good tool to understand more abt oneself...take conscience abt our potentials and limitations....nevertheless it seems to me that predictions in astrology are a bit subjective...only true or false after the ''fact'' has occured...no?
I think astrology has some scientific bases, we do live and interact under the influences of the planets of our solar system...I think it's a good tool to understand more abt oneself...take conscience abt our potentials and limitations....nevertheless it seems to me that predictions in astrology are a bit subjective...only true or false after the ''fact'' has occured...no?
Galactic_bodhi: Its all interpretation Al. I think it has more to do with their psychic capacity than any mechanism associated with Astrology. They could equally rely on Tarot, and be just as accurate. The tool doesn't matter, it's the practioners gift...
I respectuflly disagree my friend. I spent time studying it myself. Math calcualtions and having to refer to the ephemeris constantly, nailing down the angles, conjunctions, oppostions, nodes, mid heavens ad finitum. And each of those has a meaning. It is not just a psychic judgement. It is actually calculated and based in scientific results. I tells ya astrology is as old as dirt, older than religious gods, as far as I know.
You are right about tarot though. A huge problem with it is the same as with astrology, People interpreting things wrong because they haven't the skills or the psychic wherewithall to do so, soley to make money. I have never found tarot, (in my own use) to be wrong, but through the years have often found my inability to interpret them properly. You wouldn't beleive how many times I have tossed in the bin because of what I interpreted only to find later I had misread or ignored a combination affect.
Its like putting a ten yr old at the wheel of a car, really, and expecting them to know what theyre doing. Granted there will be the odd child with talent but only rarely. Dont let a child drive your astrology.
hello to all ... 
... and now to your main question - fact or fiction -
when you mean this kind of astrology, which based on:
your birthday,
the exact time, when you are born
and the place, where you are born,
I say:
... yes it´s fact ...
... I got my own experience ...
otherwise ... the astrology written in the newspaper is a joke ... fiction ... fun ...
have a nice day ...
... and now to your main question - fact or fiction -
when you mean this kind of astrology, which based on:
your birthday,
the exact time, when you are born
and the place, where you are born,
I say:
... yes it´s fact ...
... I got my own experience ...
otherwise ... the astrology written in the newspaper is a joke ... fiction ... fun ...
have a nice day ...
BnaturAl: I respectuflly disagree my friend. I spent time studying it myself. Math calcualtions and having to refer to the ephemeris constantly, nailing down the angles, conjunctions, oppostions, nodes, mid heavens ad finitum. And each of those has a meaning. It is not just a psychic judgement. It is actually calculated and based in scientific results. I tells ya astrology is as old as dirt, older than religious gods, as far as I know.
You are right about tarot though. A huge problem with it is the same as with astrology, People interpreting things wrong because they haven't the skills or the psychic wherewithall to do so, soley to make money. I have never found tarot, (in my own use) to be wrong, but through the years have often found my inability to interpret them properly. You wouldn't beleive how many times I have tossed in the bin because of what I interpreted only to find later I had misread or ignored a combination affect.
Its like putting a ten yr old at the wheel of a car, really, and expecting them to know what theyre doing. Granted there will be the odd child with talent but only rarely. Dont let a child drive your astrology.
You are right about tarot though. A huge problem with it is the same as with astrology, People interpreting things wrong because they haven't the skills or the psychic wherewithall to do so, soley to make money. I have never found tarot, (in my own use) to be wrong, but through the years have often found my inability to interpret them properly. You wouldn't beleive how many times I have tossed in the bin because of what I interpreted only to find later I had misread or ignored a combination affect.
Its like putting a ten yr old at the wheel of a car, really, and expecting them to know what theyre doing. Granted there will be the odd child with talent but only rarely. Dont let a child drive your astrology.
I've studied it myself. As I said, I believe even the math is a matter of interpretation. Being as its based on Ptolemaic systems, the math may work out, but has no reflection on reality...We live in a Copernican universe, and the signposts of the constellations are viewed anthropically.
I wonder if you could predict anything about an Aquarius on Vega?
Poetic: hello to all ...
... and now to your main question - fact or fiction -
when you mean this kind of astrology, which based on:
your birthday,
the exact time, when you are born
and the place, where you are born,
I say:
... yes it´s fact ...
... I got my own experience ...
otherwise ... the astrology written in the newspaper is a joke ... fiction ... fun ...
have a nice day ...
... and now to your main question - fact or fiction -
when you mean this kind of astrology, which based on:
your birthday,
the exact time, when you are born
and the place, where you are born,
I say:
... yes it´s fact ...
... I got my own experience ...
otherwise ... the astrology written in the newspaper is a joke ... fiction ... fun ...
have a nice day ...
Yes.
Ambrose2007: What does that have to do with astrology (knew something about you before you even sat down). Those kinds of predictions are what psychics are infamous for. A psychic predicted awhile back that a dude with receding and curly hair would "rock her world," so I'm thinking there has to be something to that.
Makes me wonder if I should start another poll about belief in psychic phenomena. A philosophic troublemaker's job, apparently, is never done.
Makes me wonder if I should start another poll about belief in psychic phenomena. A philosophic troublemaker's job, apparently, is never done.
Well now youre erroneously lumping psychic and astrologer in the same breathe, A psychic purports to predict from ethereal knowledge. An astrologer uses mathematical computations, not psychic. More like knowing the steps in assembling your life, as a plumber might be able to tell you why and where your drain is plugged.
BnaturAl: psychic and astrologer
Right. Not the same thing. Like night & day.
Galactic_bodhi: I've studied it myself. As I said, I believe even the math is a matter of interpretation. Being as its based on Ptolemaic systems, the math may work out, but has no reflection on reality...We live in a Copernican universe, and the signposts of the constellations are viewed anthropically.
I wonder if you could predict anything about an Aquarius on Vega?
I wonder if you could predict anything about an Aquarius on Vega?
Relativity would demand some observational differences
the angles to vega change the computations and likely what planets are closer and hence more influencial. And since the characteristcis of those planets are not known to me, i cant help ya. When you get there you'll be the first.. oh I'm just assuming that 
I suspect an aries would get there first ..
now an aquarian in a vega would be totally out of this world.
Ambrose2007: Thanks for proving my case, B.
your case ..
as a learned female judge once said ."It annoys me and this court that you often come before me." I have picked number 2, not that it is documented but it should be, there is analyzing in everything, i don't care where you reach for a subject, a place, or a thing or a person, there is an analogy for it all, so in saying, i believe that when we are born there is a gravitational pull on the earth just like there is every second of the day and i believe it has something to do with the levels of chemistry in your body, yes i know this is way out there but it is what i believe. We all have similar properties as far as basics go but the more in depth you go into each and every individual there is deff a difference although a similar pattern.
Ever tried to analyze a certain name? seriously, if you analyze a certain name of say like a woman you will see the hight percentage of likeness there is in behavior and character, you think me crazy on this jeff i know but just look and see what i am talking about.
so when i say, i am virgo/leo and i cusp on it? i really mean i am a wildchild, didn't you get that already?
Ever tried to analyze a certain name? seriously, if you analyze a certain name of say like a woman you will see the hight percentage of likeness there is in behavior and character, you think me crazy on this jeff i know but just look and see what i am talking about.
so when i say, i am virgo/leo and i cusp on it? i really mean i am a wildchild, didn't you get that already?
Can really a good astrologer predict with total accuracy the free will/acts of someone's mind? I think he/she can only suggest...no?
BnaturAl: Relativity would demand some observational differences the angles to vega change the computations and likely what planets are closer and hence more influencial. And since the characteristcis of those planets are not known to me, i cant help ya. When you get there you'll be the first.. oh I'm just assuming that I suspect an aries would get there first ..now an aquarian in a vega would be totally out of this world.
The aries might get there first, but an aquarius would be driving...
Galactic_bodhi: The aries might get there first, but an aquarius would be driving...
and the arian likely drugged, and tied up, for her own safety of course ... 
gaia44: Can really a good astrologer predict with total accuracy the free will/acts of someone's mind? I think he/she can only suggest...no?
The stars "impel," not "compell," no? (Seem to recall reading that in Scientific American or Popular Mechanics...
)Ambrose2007: The stars "impel," not "compell," no? (Seem to recall reading that in Scientific American or Popular Mechanics... )
*Compel*.
Ambrose2007: I've noticed that lots of women find astrology interesting or fun, even if they don't believe it offers fundamental truths. My impression is that much fewer men take it seriously. Assuming my impression is correct, does anyone have an explanation for that?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
Also, I'm very curious how believers in astrology acquired this belief. Was it through a critical review of extant evidence and logical argumentation, or through other more intuitive evaluative processes?
I believe in it. That the stars project a stream of energy with defining characteristics is emperical evidence. Mix in numerology, and you get the truth for your nature and paths in your journey this life time.
I'll add more later, I really need a jog here in Vegas before the temps hit 6594858903485034 degrees....
BnaturAl: and the arian likely drugged, and tied up, for her own safety of course ...
Nope.
She tells me where to point it, and we get there.
The Aquarius is only driving because he knows the neighborhood.
It's where he's from, after all...
gaia44: Can really a good astrologer predict with total accuracy the free will/acts of someone's mind? I think he/she can only suggest...no?
anyone can suggest though, if you look at it, think of one womans name and look back in your history, how many women have you known by a name like that and how many were alike or so close it was unreal? it is all in the characterization of it, brought about by analyzing
StressFree: I believe in it. That the stars project a stream of energy with defining characteristics is emperical evidence. Mix in numerology, and you get the truth for your nature and paths in your journey this life time.
I'll add more later, I really need a jog here in Vegas before the temps hit 6594858903485034 degrees....
I'll add more later, I really need a jog here in Vegas before the temps hit 6594858903485034 degrees....
I don't know what you're complaining about Stressless. That sounds like a positively cool day in Vegas...
By the way, best of luck with your dad (heard he was having a bad spell of health?) and with your stroll down San Fran's memory lane. I'm sure the weather will be slightly cooler there.
And have a nice journey to Arizona...
I can say that I don't use astrological charts or think that astrology is going to define my future in detail...cause it does not really. It may drop hints of some of the struggles I will face in encountering the inner conflicts I may confront, and they have been kinda almost dead on.
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
Ambrose2007: I don't know what you're complaining about Stressless. That sounds like a positively cool day in Vegas...
By the way, best of luck with your dad (heard he was having a bad spell of health?) and with your stroll down San Fran's memory lane. I'm sure the weather will be slightly cooler there.
And have a nice journey to Arizona...
By the way, best of luck with your dad (heard he was having a bad spell of health?) and with your stroll down San Fran's memory lane. I'm sure the weather will be slightly cooler there.
And have a nice journey to Arizona...
Thanks brother....true, Frisco should have some perfect weather...can't wait.
Have you seen Carl Jung's take on Astrology? It's really interesting....
StressFree: I can say that I don't use astrological charts or think that astrology is going to define my future in detail...cause it does not really. It may drop hints of some of the struggles I will face in encountering the inner conflicts I may confront, and they have been kinda almost dead on.
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
so what are you saying there mr.t? that virgos controlled the way you think? i don't think that would be there faults
StressFree: I can say that I don't use astrological charts or think that astrology is going to define my future in detail...cause it does not really. It may drop hints of some of the struggles I will face in encountering the inner conflicts I may confront, and they have been kinda almost dead on.
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
I do think astrology is roughly pretty accurate in defining the genreal characteristics for our behaviours. Trust me, every Virgo I have met has indeed been known to be a control freak and very organized....
somehow I think youre going to get virgonian static from this
though with their down to earth nature they might well just go "phhhht, get off your horse buddy"speaking of buddy, how are ya? jet lagged?
irishlass45: so what are you saying there mr.t? that virgos controlled the way you think? i don't think that would be there faults
I see someone falling off a horse ...
irishlass45: so what are you saying there mr.t? that virgos controlled the way you think? i don't think that would be there faults
they (she) tried....mix in Taurus with signs that I will never date again...BnaturAl: somehow I think youre going to get virgonian static from this though with their down to earth nature they might well just go "phhhht, get off your horse buddy"
speaking of buddy, how are ya? jet lagged?
speaking of buddy, how are ya? jet lagged?
yes...but a little better now...I shall check the very generalizing and vague horoscope in the paper and let it define my reality today...lol...
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Its all interpretation Al. I think it has more to do with their psychic capacity than any mechanism associated with Astrology. They could equally rely on Tarot, and be just as accurate. The tool doesn't matter, it's the practioners gift...