Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney? (874)

Sep 27, 2012 3:26 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
How bad is the Obama administration relationship with Islamic countries?

It is so bad, they cannot eve work together on common ground issues.

At the UN, Morusi said that Assad needs to step down in Syria to end the violence.The exact same position of the Obama administration.
Yet the two cannot agree on any realistic plan to remove Assad.



The Obama administration has so rubbed the Islamic world nose in the bin Laden raid. That many are refusing to work with it. The entire thing of having photos and not releasing them made the question of his death a permanent conspriracy issue on the Muslim street. You needs to know that bin Laden and alQeada have killed 1000s of Muslims. Their families were incensed that evidence of his death were not produced.

Then to use the bin Laden for political means further incensed the viotaile region. Why should anyone think that these protest would not fall on 911? That the protesters are shouting death to America. And are burning US flags. They are not burning image of the movie trailer. Or effigies of the trailer director. Their anger is right at the White House and the American government.

The broken 2008 promise that Obama would 'work every minute' of his administration to achieve middle east peace, has them incensed. Then add in the 29 bin Laden raid football spikes in the DNC was a match that lite the short fuse to 911 of this year. That while some 200 Muslim DEM delegate sat in the stands. 200 that heard the DNC voice role call 3 time on the 'God and Jersulem' inclusion.

Is it any wonder that Muslims are in riot and protest at US embassies around the world?

Dude want us to think that the Muslim world is all warm and glowing to Barack Obama. Well the Muslim world is burning him effigy then.
And chanting Obama, Obama, Obama we all are Osama. At the doors of our embassies. The two just don't add up. The liberal left has spun itself into this position.

Thinking that you could break promises and still maintain good relationships. They do here in the US all the time. Why not in the rest of the world? Why would not Islam be so hood winked as well?

Because you have a antagonistic relationship with Islam. That is going to test your word and your actions. DEM says this is because of GWB and his wars. To a point into 2009 that might be the case. But not this last few weeks of death and violence, that is solely on Barack Obama. This is what Barack Obama has brought into the middle east. Not GWB.

From sending mixed signals to Isreal on Iran. To his inability to decide on Assad, Barack Obama has consistently let the world down.
The only reason Ahmedinjad has a case in the UN for a 'new world world' is because the helm of the United States was so poorly managed the last four years. Only the Isreali walked out him this year in the UN. The EU ...all of Africa...South
America....Asia....the Pacific Rim countries stayed to listen to his message. That helm was in the hands of Barack Obama.
Sep 27, 2012 3:51 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50: President Ahmenidinjad called the leaders of the west as handmaiden of the devil. I think that includes President Obama.

But the US UN Ambassador and her staff.....sat there like bump on a road.....and sucked it all in. Israel was the only country that left his address.

So one has to ask Ambassador Rice....how does it feel to have you boss....called a handmaiden of the Devil? With such spineless REP of the country at the UN...is it any wonder...that world considers the US a road bump on the highway?

The unrest in the middle east and africa has to say that to any reasoning person. That Ahmedinejad would call for a 'new world order'
under President Obama watch should not shock anyone. Obama has bowed down to just about everyone on the world stage.

If elected....Ahmendinejad will get what he wants. Both a nuc and a
new world order. He is done in summer....but that is plenty of time to get both. President Obama will be making his phone calls to Russia....to China....to Egypt....to that man in the moon. But to no avail. Like their position on Syria. Iran wins if President Obama is re-elected.

Obama inability to see the Arab Spring, the 911 assaults, the Taliban going after the SEAL TEAM 6, is sad display of leadership.
That he misses most of his NSA meetings. Does not read the detailed reports that are painstakingly prepared by the CIA and others.

Tells us only one thing. That his heart for doing security work in the oval office is not really there. Surely this issue of Islamic terrorism is going to be there in the next term.

Obama bowed when he should have twisted arms.
Bowing is the only thing he does well!
Seems he is still not aware of his position!
A POTUS bows to NO MAN!
Sep 27, 2012 4:42 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Well the Pentagon is doin it again.....

LOL.......this time trying to figure out in the book with classified materials in it.....is a ligit read for military and pentagon staffers. They don't mind you buying it....placing it in your book shelf....and even reading it.....but just don't discuss or tweet about it.rolling on the floor laughing

It is secret....you know highly sensitive stuff.....that only someone high up should know.

This comedy of DoD response to the book by the Navy Chief, further tell us why political correctness is a bad thing. Come on Mr. Penetta
either the author is giving away national secrets or he is not.
But then why let people buy the book? Freedom of press. But then why limit their ability to discuss the book? State secrets might be divulged! What about freedom of Speech? Ummmmm.....back to the Constitution we go.

Really what the Pentagon wants here....is to place a muzzle on the DoD and Military....confirming the message inside Mark Owens book.
It is bad enough he just blew the official version the bin Laden raid out of the water....sinking the movie version in doing so.
But to have parties within the Pentagon to confirm his version of events............means...........well.............someone fabricated that official version.

Then conservative media.....eg. Fox......will digging around to find who and why. That kind of media, the White House and President do not need in a election year.

Sep 27, 2012 5:03 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Well massive and violent austerity riots have broken out in broke Europe. You know that Europe that President Obama likes so much.

Let us see what does the President say about Europe?

"Europe needs a sensible ways to the deal with the debt" and parrallel discussion "to how we develop growth"

So President Obama seems positive to European growth as a mean for getting out its fiscal problems. But when he talks growth in the US......well he is not so much for that. That being one of those REP ideas. His idea is to 'grow from the middle'.

They are sure 'sensible' in Greece and Spain today over this entire thing. Look like Cairo revisited out there. did they try to grow from middle? I think so. All those benefits to the middle class, yes?

It is sad that Europe, with all its potential, history, knowledge,
sophistication......has slowing been falling apart. Maybe all that free stuff, did not make the people happy or fulfilled.

Sep 27, 2012 5:17 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50: Well massive and violent austerity riots have broken out in broke Europe. You know that Europe that President Obama likes so much.

Let us see what does the President say about Europe?

"Europe needs a sensible ways to the deal with the debt" and parrallel discussion "to how we develop growth"

So President Obama seems positive to European growth as a mean for getting out its fiscal problems. But when he talks growth in the US......well he is not so much for that. That being one of those REP ideas. His idea is to 'grow from the middle'.

They are sure 'sensible' in Greece and Spain today over this entire thing. Look like Cairo revisited out there. did they try to grow from middle? I think so. All those benefits to the middle class, yes?

It is sad that Europe, with all its potential, history, knowledge,
sophistication......has slowing been falling apart. Maybe all that free stuff, did not make the people happy or fulfilled.

is THAT why the FED is secretly cramming Dollars the US doesn't have into EU Central Banks?
Sep 27, 2012 5:55 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
What a SURPRISE!!

The first Black president gets voted out overwhelmingly and here we have all the 3000 different reasons for it as well!



You Americans are terrible.
Shame shame shame on you.
Sep 27, 2012 6:00 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Bluefish22: What a SURPRISE!!

The first Black president gets voted out overwhelmingly and here we have all the 3000 different reasons for it as well!



You Americans are terrible.
Shame shame shame on you.


Sorry Bluefish. There's probably a good thousand reasons why Obama has failed us as president, but none of them have anything to do with his skin color.

He could be pink spotted purple for all I care.
Sep 27, 2012 6:02 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Bluefish22
Bluefish22Bluefish22Chooksville, Bay of Plenty New Zealand16 Threads 1 Polls 909 Posts
Conrad73: is THAT why the FED is secretly cramming Dollars the US doesn't have into EU Central Banks?
Seeing as how Obama inherited a wealth of negative and challenging problems at commencement of his term, t'would be hard to analyze fairly his absolute competency.
I am rather astounded that so few wish to adequately gauge his worth by indulging in a second term.
Sep 27, 2012 6:06 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Bluefish22: Seeing as how Obama inherited a wealth of negative and challenging problems at commencement of his term, t'would be hard to analyze fairly his absolute competency.
I am rather astounded that so few wish to adequately gauge his worth by indulging in a second term.
wonder whom he will blame if he wins again!rolling on the floor laughing
He is even more of a Spineless Gutless wonder than Carter!
Sep 27, 2012 6:10 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Bluefish22: Seeing as how Obama inherited a wealth of negative and challenging problems at commencement of his term, t'would be hard to analyze fairly his absolute competency.
I am rather astounded that so few wish to adequately gauge his worth by indulging in a second term.


You really shouldn't be so astounded considering he has not only failed to improve ANYTHING since becoming president, but he has made a lot ot things much worse.

Don't you think after four years and countless tax payer dollars he could have created some improvement somewhere????? Every single segment of our population, and every program or financial segment, is worse off today than it was four years ago.

Just how long is this man expected to "coast" along blaming Bush?
Sep 27, 2012 6:18 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4: You really shouldn't be so astounded considering he has not only failed to improve ANYTHING since becoming president, but he has made a lot ot things much worse.

Don't you think after four years and countless tax payer dollars he could have created some improvement somewhere????? Every single segment of our population, and every program or financial segment, is worse off today than it was four years ago.

Just how long is this man expected to "coast" along blaming Bush?
into his Second Term,then he can say,That bad Bush prevented me doing right the first time!
Why,he is saying that even now!
Sep 27, 2012 6:23 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Conrad73: into his Second Term,then he can say,That bad Bush prevented me doing right the first time!
Why,he is saying that even now!


Yep!
Sep 27, 2012 6:27 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Just off the top of my head:

Unemployment is over 8 percent.

$16 trillion and climbing despite his promise to cut the debt in half.

No budget has been passed during his term.

A new entitlement passed that is now forecasted to cost more than $1.7 trillion during the next 10 years, plus new reports daily of the miscalculation of costs which double and sometimes triple initial projections. And we STILL don't know "What's in it."

46 million people are receiving food stamps.

More people living in poverty since 2008

An 8.2% decrease in the net worth of almost all Americans SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE.

No plan submitted to save Social Security or Medicare other than to gur Medicare to help pay for Obamacare - which is still woefully underfunded.

Handing Obamacare "exemptions" to 160 of his closest union buddies, congress, and various corporate buddies.

14 million people are projected to lose their employer-sponsored health care.

Gas prices are approaching $4 a gallon.

College tuition is up over 8 percent in 2011.

Foreign policy that has created a Middle East crisis and puts the United States at risk.

$26 billion IOU to taxpayers from General Motors, that will likely never be paid.

National Credit Rating downgraded for the first time in history, not once but TWICE

Freedom rating downgraded multiple points

Misery Index Higher

Complete misuse of stimulus funds (90 percent of Bush's stimulus funds have been repaid. Only 10 percent of Obama's - PLUS he did not use the funds for purposes outlined in the TARP bill).





Now it's your turn..... What has he done that's improved anything?
Sep 27, 2012 6:35 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4: Just off the top of my head:

Unemployment is over 8 percent.

$16 trillion and climbing despite his promise to cut the debt in half.

No budget has been passed during his term.

A new entitlement passed that is now forecasted to cost more than $1.7 trillion during the next 10 years, plus new reports daily of the miscalculation of costs which double and sometimes triple initial projections. And we STILL don't know "What's in it."

46 million people are receiving food stamps.

More people living in poverty since 2008

An 8.2% decrease in the net worth of almost all Americans SINCE HE TOOK OFFICE.

No plan submitted to save Social Security or Medicare other than to gur Medicare to help pay for Obamacare - which is still woefully underfunded.

Handing Obamacare "exemptions" to 160 of his closest union buddies, congress, and various corporate buddies.

14 million people are projected to lose their employer-sponsored health care.

Gas prices are approaching $4 a gallon.

College tuition is up over 8 percent in 2011.

Foreign policy that has created a Middle East crisis and puts the United States at risk.

$26 billion IOU to taxpayers from General Motors, that will likely never be paid.

National Credit Rating downgraded for the first time in history, not once but TWICE

Freedom rating downgraded multiple points

Misery Index Higher

Complete misuse of stimulus funds (90 percent of Bush's stimulus funds have been repaid. Only 10 percent of Obama's - PLUS he did not use the funds for purposes outlined in the TARP bill).Now it's your turn..... What has he done that's improved anything?
ruling by Edict to get around the Lawful Authority of Congress?
Sep 27, 2012 6:48 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
montemonte: I don't think Romney is going to be able to help me directly but I do think that President Obama will hurt me dirtctly.

His healthcare plan alone will be the death of me and many other seniors. If he starts snooping into my personal business such as bank accounts or putting me through the wringer when I need medical attention he can hurt me badly.

I haven't heard of anything Mitt Romney will do on the same level to hurt me.

Romney wants to bring jobs back to the United States. That could be helpful to me as there might be a need for a part time legal secretary. You never know Doodles.

But I DO know what the President promises his presidency will bring me and that is continued financial destruction.


Have you studied Obama care by your self monte? It is aviable on line and it is easy to send questions a bout it to autorities by phone and by mail... how come you beleive his health care plan will mean "dead" for you ? Who told you this kind of stuff any way? How come it is easy for you beleiving this kind of propoganda?

Romney and his stupid pals claim a lot and "want" a lot but they Won,t do much of all their claims since doing their claims is in no way possible, since cutting taxes for the Rich is the one and only methode they keep falling in to by the one and only way forward ... less taxes for ther ich then no money enough for running the country or creating american jobs as they claim they will! ... and their guys are just waiting taking over in order of making lives of less fortuned americans furter difficult, and calling people names and creating distance and making fun of those who do not have money enough and blaming them for their life situation!

Romney group are those kinds of buttheads who make fun of the single mom or the eledery or the sick, or the unemployed standing in supermarked lines with their food stamps and calling them names as it happens too often and where ever Republican types got the majority in a city! Being Mean and calling people names does not solve any kinds of american problems of time being monte! You are not rich enough beleiving being one of Romney types and will not be there what so ever I am sorry to tell you! No silver spoon in mouth what so ever and just a regular honorable hard working american lady who will need a helping hand in order of having a better life, because you deserve support of your country now when you need to relax instead of keep working hard.

Who told you there might be a job for you as well as partime legal secretary if Romney will win this? This job becoming aviale for you or not is up to what employee you meet and if there is a need for your qualifications then you will get such job no matter who runs the country! Romney says 12 million new jobs and I say BS! This dang buzo is just Fake and got not a thing for people like you he certianly beleives being a part of the 47 procent americans he do not even Care a bout or want to be the president for! Gosh! Listen to the man,s words in the video and can you see a man who wants to become the kind of president who will Care for you personally? dunno
Sep 27, 2012 6:56 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Yep. And that pretty much sums up where we are in this election. It's true that Romney is relatively unknown in terms of whether or not we are SURE he will be good for our country - but we absolutely KNOW at this point that Obama will be terrible for us. All anyone has to do is look at what's happened in the last four years.

Another term with Obama will be the end of America and it's freedoms we all enjoy


Yeah... Romney,s called of "freedom" calling people names and not giving a damn a bout half of americans, and being the president of the strong and those able of work only and once in a while giving hand outs just for looking good and also for have more tax cuts! Defintion of Romney kind of "Freedom" is rather scarey, and shows that America really should begin a total rethinking progress a bout what kind of ideology this too big Republican ideology is when all counts! uh oh
Sep 27, 2012 7:03 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Have you studied Obama care by your self monte? It is aviable on line and it is easy to send questions a bout it to autorities by phone and by mail... how come you beleive his health care plan will mean "dead" for you ? Who told you this kind of stuff any way? How come it is easy for you beleiving this kind of propoganda?

Romney and his stupid pals claim a lot and "want" a lot but they Won,t do much of all their claims since doing their claims is in no way possible, since cutting taxes for the Rich is the one and only methode they keep falling in to by the one and only way forward ... less taxes for ther ich then no money enough for running the country or creating american jobs as they claim they will! ... and their guys are just waiting taking over in order of making lives of less fortuned americans furter difficult, and calling people names and creating distance and making fun of those who do not have money enough and blaming them for their life situation!

Romney group are those kinds of buttheads who make fun of the single mom or the eledery or the sick, or the unemployed standing in supermarked lines with their food stamps and calling them names as it happens too often and where ever Republican types got the majority in a city! Being Mean and calling people names does not solve any kinds of american problems of time being monte! You are not rich enough beleiving being one of Romney types and will not be there what so ever I am sorry to tell you! No silver spoon in mouth what so ever and just a regular honorable hard working american lady who will need a helping hand in order of having a better life, because you deserve support of your country now when you need to relax instead of keep working hard.

Who told you there might be a job for you as well as partime legal secretary if Romney will win this? This job becoming aviale for you or not is up to what employee you meet and if there is a need for your qualifications then you will get such job no matter who runs the country! Romney says 12 million new jobs and I say BS! This dang buzo is just Fake and got not a thing for people like you he certianly beleives being a part of the 47 procent americans he do not even Care a bout or want to be the president for! Gosh! Listen to the man,s words in the video and can you see a man who wants to become the kind of president who will Care for you personally?
Have you studied Obama care by your self monte? It is aviable on line and it is easy to send questions a bout it to autorities by phone and by mail... how come you beleive his health care plan will mean "dead" for you ? Who told you this kind of stuff any way? How come it is easy for you beleiving this kind of propoganda?

Romney and his stupid pals claim a lot and "want" a lot but they Won,t do much of all their claims since doing their claims is in no way possible, since cutting taxes for the Rich is the one and only methode they keep falling in to by the one and only way forward ... less taxes for ther ich then no money enough for running the country or creating american jobs as they claim they will! ... and their guys are just waiting taking over in order of making lives of less fortuned americans furter difficult, and calling people names and creating distance and making fun of those who do not have money enough and blaming them for their life situation!


I've read it Dude. You bet I read it - AND I've confirmed a sampling of the excerpts found in this video by comparing it to the actual bill.

In a nutshell, OBAMACARE SUCKS!

Sep 27, 2012 7:04 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Oops... That quote didn't post correctly...


I've read it Dude. You bet I read it - AND I've confirmed a sampling of the excerpts found in this video by comparing it to the actual bill.

In a nutshell, OBAMACARE SUCKS!

Sep 27, 2012 7:07 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
AmoroArboles
AmoroArbolesAmoroArbolesTacoma Area, Washington USA16 Threads 353 Posts
For those US voters concerned that there is little difference to which corporate-backed salesperson sits in the Oval Office (R or D), how about a president who is Independent of the same business-as-usual policies?

Check out the Green Party.
Sep 27, 2012 7:11 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
AmoroArboles: For those US voters concerned that there is little difference to which corporate-backed salesperson sits in the Oval Office (R or D), how about a president who is Independent of the same business-as-usual policies?

Check out the Green Party.


At the moment it's a moot point since we only have two candidates to choose from. Down the road? Sure I would consider...but right now I'm more concerned about what Obama will do with another four years and whether or not we would even HAVE another election after that. sigh

As for having an astute, successful businessman over an inept Community Organizer, the choice is clear. Romney at least knows how to surround himself with smart people to delegate important facest of the job, whereas Obama only chose his idealogical friends and cronies who know nothing about the positions they are now sitting in.

Moreover, Romney is good at spotting waste and streamlining operations - something our vast federal government needs very badly.
Sep 27, 2012 7:30 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
WhatUwish4: Have you studied Obama care by your self monte? It is aviable on line and it is easy to send questions a bout it to autorities by phone and by mail... how come you beleive his health care plan will mean "dead" for you ? Who told you this kind of stuff any way? How come it is easy for you beleiving this kind of propoganda?

Romney and his stupid pals claim a lot and "want" a lot but they Won,t do much of all their claims since doing their claims is in no way possible, since cutting taxes for the Rich is the one and only methode they keep falling in to by the one and only way forward ... less taxes for ther ich then no money enough for running the country or creating american jobs as they claim they will! ... and their guys are just waiting taking over in order of making lives of less fortuned americans furter difficult, and calling people names and creating distance and making fun of those who do not have money enough and blaming them for their life situation! I've read it Dude. You bet I read it - AND I've confirmed a sampling of the excerpts found in this video by comparing it to the actual bill.

In a nutshell, OBAMACARE SUCKS!



Wish dear you personally... do not even need a kind of universal heath care plan any way, since your pretty butt is full of NICE money any way ! Please? Do not try to fool others who definately need a universal heath care plan all being as fortunate as you are dunno
Sep 27, 2012 7:44 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Hot_Single_Dude
Hot_Single_DudeHot_Single_DudeKobenhavn, Capital Region Denmark68 Threads 73 Polls 11,289 Posts
Sep 27, 2012 8:38 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: Wish dear you personally... do not even need a kind of universal heath care plan any way, since your pretty butt is full of NICE money any way ! Please? Do not try to fool others who definately need a universal heath care plan all being as fortunate as you are


That's just rude of you to assume, Dude. I'm a single mother of two and you think I'm rich? laugh rolling on the floor laughing laugh

Obviously you've never had children. doh
Sep 27, 2012 8:52 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
More on Skewed Polls (yesterday)

The mainstream media-commissioned polls have been far more skewed this election season than most in the past. Typically, many polls would be a little skewed to the Democrats during August and September (remember all those summer leads for Democrats that seemed to evaporate to Republican leads in October?) and then they would switch to surveying likely voters and tone down the skewing in time to report reasonably accurate results by some time in October. But it might be a tall challenge for these pollsters to clean up their act this year, given how far they've been skewed in their polls. For the sake of their credibility, I don't see how they can keep skewing as heavily as they have, yet I also don't see how they can change their ways too much too soon without risking the repudiation of their earlier polls during this election season.

The latest UnSkewed Average of polls at UnSkewedPolls.com shows Mitt Romney leading by 7.8 percent while the latest QStarNews Daily Tracking poll released today shows Romney leading over Obama by a 52 percent to 46 percent. Many of the polls commissioned by mainstream media outlets have been quite skewed, including the series of swing state polls released today by CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac University. The question is will these pollsters keep skewing their polls to this degree, or perhaps a lesser degree, as we get closer to the election.

I suspect some of these pollsters, for the sake of their credibility, will adjust their methodology and begin reporting lesser skewed polls as the election becomes more near. Additionally, it wouldn't be a surprise if some of the polls are very balanced in their samples in order to produce more accurate results. But some of the polls are so far skewed, that bring them back down to earth would only illustrate how badly skewed the previous polls by those pollsters were, and lead many of us to conclude they knew their earlier polls were too skewed. No polling firm wants to repudiate the accuracy of their earlier polls this way, so expect them to spin the difference in results and try to convince us that their later polls showing Romney winning are because Romney has had a unprecedented surge in the polls due to his campaigning, and not because the polls were skewed in August and September and suddenly more accurate in October.

The major pollsters have never admitted this in the past, but yet it seems like every election I can remember, the Republican nominee was always way behind in the summer and somehow magically closed the gap by October. The conventional wisdom was that we should expect the race to get closer later in the election season and not to question whether earlier polls were skewed and later ones were correct for the sake of pollster credibility.

But this year many of the polls are far more skewed than they have been in the past. To the degree that they are that skewed, I”m not sure some of these pollsters can straighten up and fly right even if they want to. Either way, I'm watching them. And ready to expose them for cleaning up their act or still selling us the same skewed bill of goods. We'll see what happens.

Let your voice be heard, take the QStarNews Daily Tracking Poll, just a few quick questions, and the full QStarNews Poll with many interesting questions.
Sep 27, 2012 9:16 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
This is a breaking news alert that just came over the wire. It's "breaking" because they have not yet collected the full story - but expect to see MUCH more of this within the next day or so.

US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm


Published September 27, 2012

FoxNews.com




URGENT: U.S. intelligence officials knew from Day One that the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a terrorist attack and suspected Al Qaeda-tied elements were involved, sources told Fox News -- though it took the administration a week to acknowledge it.

The account conflicts with claims on the Sunday after the attack by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice that the administration believed the strike was a "spontaneous" event triggered by protests in Egypt over an anti-Islam film.

Sources said the administration internally labeled the attack terrorism from the first day to enable a certain type of policy response, and that officials were looking for one specific suspect.

In addition, sources confirm that FBI agents have not yet arrived in Benghazi in the aftermath of the attack.





I'm going to assume this it true because they would never run a story in this manner without being prepared to back it up. That being the case...just what are we supposed to think when an administration creates such a bald-faced lie?????
Sep 27, 2012 9:45 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
FreddyFudpucker
FreddyFudpuckerFreddyFudpuckerObamaville, Indiana USA10,179 Posts
WhatUwish4: This is a breaking news alert that just came over the wire. It's "breaking" because they have not yet collected the full story - but expect to see MUCH more of this within the next day or so.

US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm


Published September 27, 2012

FoxNews.com

URGENT: U.S. intelligence officials knew from Day One that the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a terrorist attack and suspected Al Qaeda-tied elements were involved, sources told Fox News -- though it took the administration a week to acknowledge it.

The account conflicts with claims on the Sunday after the attack by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice that the administration believed the strike was a "spontaneous" event triggered by protests in Egypt over an anti-Islam film.

Sources said the administration internally labeled the attack terrorism from the first day to enable a certain type of policy response, and that officials were looking for one specific suspect.

In addition, sources confirm that FBI agents have not yet arrived in Benghazi in the aftermath of the attack.I'm going to assume this it true because they would never run a story in this manner without being prepared to back it up. That being the case...just what are we supposed to think when an administration creates such a bald-faced lie?????



You're saying this Prezbo would lie? rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 27, 2012 9:46 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4: This is a breaking news alert that just came over the wire. It's "breaking" because they have not yet collected the full story - but expect to see MUCH more of this within the next day or so.

US officials knew Libya attack was terrorism within 24 hours, sources confirm


Published September 27, 2012

FoxNews.com

URGENT: U.S. intelligence officials knew from Day One that the assault on the U.S. Consulate in Libya was a terrorist attack and suspected Al Qaeda-tied elements were involved, sources told Fox News -- though it took the administration a week to acknowledge it.

The account conflicts with claims on the Sunday after the attack by U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice that the administration believed the strike was a "spontaneous" event triggered by protests in Egypt over an anti-Islam film.

Sources said the administration internally labeled the attack terrorism from the first day to enable a certain type of policy response, and that officials were looking for one specific suspect.

In addition, sources confirm that FBI agents have not yet arrived in Benghazi in the aftermath of the attack.I'm going to assume this it true because they would never run a story in this manner without being prepared to back it up. That being the case...just what are we supposed to think when an administration creates such a bald-faced lie?????
the Guy is too busy bowing!
Reminds me of this Contraption!

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Sep 27, 2012 9:48 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Hot_Single_Dude: is that why the dang suspicous corporate raider of urs had to Illegally deleting any kinds of Data before he took the hell out of office back then or was that why people voted a Democrat in after Romneys four Stupid years were over and out ? Did he even had a chance if he wanted to countinue and would people vote him on a gain mister TT? I do deofnately NOT think so and that is why he rather just took a way as other clown Republican Pailn did in Alaska! 47th. state amoung 50 states in America creating jobs... such a "Record"!


Data was recorded by independent party back when he was in office. Including the FED government.

But 8% or 4.1%.......8% or 4.1%.....8% or 4.1%......yes, 4.1% is better.

If Obamaeconomic are so good. Why did the unemployment rate go above his projected 8.0%?

He says it is because those State and Local government are not hiring. He could have changed that. By working with them on shovel ready jobs. But what does do? Promotes high speed rail. A project so massive and complicated that few state were ready to take it on.

This is poor planning at the Federal level. To find out if High speed rail was ready to zoom zoom at the state level....all he had to do make some phone calls. The governors of the States were it was to go in. They would of told him.

But he cannot even jingle up Governor Scott of Florida to find out.

Now they want us to think he is making all these phone calls to foreign leaders....to clam things down in the middle east and to back Israel's play on Iran. If he cannot call a state governor on high speed rail, he is not calling foreign leaders.

As former governor Sununu says.....he has a lousy work ethnic.

Sununu tells this story. Harry Ried needed to get approval from the White House on Friday evening. Ried goes to the WH. He finds everyone in the WH asleep. He had to wake a staffer to wake the President.

Here are a few more Sununu thoughts on the White House:







Everyone know Reid is a Obama surrogate. So Reid comes out with false story. The WH distances itself. But I bet Reid got a gingle from the WH before he did the lying. At least the President is calling someone.
Sep 27, 2012 9:51 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
WhatUwish4: More on Skewed Polls (yesterday)

The mainstream media-commissioned polls have been far more skewed this election season than most in the past. Typically, many polls would be a little skewed to the Democrats during August and September (remember all those summer leads for Democrats that seemed to evaporate to Republican leads in October?) and then they would switch to surveying likely voters and tone down the skewing in time to report reasonably accurate results by some time in October. But it might be a tall challenge for these pollsters to clean up their act this year, given how far they've been skewed in their polls. For the sake of their credibility, I don't see how they can keep skewing as heavily as they have, yet I also don't see how they can change their ways too much too soon without risking the repudiation of their earlier polls during this election season.

The latest UnSkewed Average of polls at UnSkewedPolls.com shows Mitt Romney leading by 7.8 percent while the latest QStarNews Daily Tracking poll released today shows Romney leading over Obama by a 52 percent to 46 percent. Many of the polls commissioned by mainstream media outlets have been quite skewed, including the series of swing state polls released today by CBS/New York Times/Quinnipiac University. The question is will these pollsters keep skewing their polls to this degree, or perhaps a lesser degree, as we get closer to the election.

I suspect some of these pollsters, for the sake of their credibility, will adjust their methodology and begin reporting lesser skewed polls as the election becomes more near. Additionally, it wouldn't be a surprise if some of the polls are very balanced in their samples in order to produce more accurate results. But some of the polls are so far skewed, that bring them back down to earth would only illustrate how badly skewed the previous polls by those pollsters were, and lead many of us to conclude they knew their earlier polls were too skewed. No polling firm wants to repudiate the accuracy of their earlier polls this way, so expect them to spin the difference in results and try to convince us that their later polls showing Romney winning are because Romney has had a unprecedented surge in the polls due to his campaigning, and not because the polls were skewed in August and September and suddenly more accurate in October.

The major pollsters have never admitted this in the past, but yet it seems like every election I can remember, the Republican nominee was always way behind in the summer and somehow magically closed the gap by October. The conventional wisdom was that we should expect the race to get closer later in the election season and not to question whether earlier polls were skewed and later ones were correct for the sake of pollster credibility.

But this year many of the polls are far more skewed than they have been in the past. To the degree that they are that skewed, I”m not sure some of these pollsters can straighten up and fly right even if they want to. Either way, I'm watching them. And ready to expose them for cleaning up their act or still selling us the same skewed bill of goods. We'll see what happens.

Let your voice be heard, take the QStarNews Daily Tracking Poll, just a few quick questions, and the full QStarNews Poll with many interesting questions.


The eschewed polls are using model done in 2008. The problem with that is....the economic crash slanted everything. So they are not even using model from the 2010 mid term. Which was a REP/Tea Party land side.
Sep 27, 2012 9:54 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
Yep. I read a few articles on the methodology and what's going on behind the scenes. It makes sense to me. I've been wondering why Obama's poll numbers are so high when I can't find ANYONE locally who supports him. Time will tell, of course, but I think there's some truth to this.

Don't you know they will be the firs to scream "CHEATING" if Romney wins after all these polls.

What a bunch of malarky we have in this elecion. I don't think I'll ever trust a Dem again, which is sad because they USED to be a good party before the socialists took them over.
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