Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney? (874)

Sep 14, 2012 9:45 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
TTom50: Charlie Crist and the Pizza guy....a must see for a horrible takeoff and near disasterous landing.....



I told you Crist was a wosh......


Darn it! It says the video is no longer available. frustrated
Sep 14, 2012 10:16 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
agman: KFC? Noooooooooooooooooo. Obviously, they are deranged.


They are probably roasting the Colonel as we speak. sigh


Morning O-man! wave

Off to the gym here. sheep
Sep 14, 2012 10:43 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4: And I know just who that person is.

I was just saying on the other thread that it would be interesting to see what happened if all of us (US, German, Britian...) completely withdrew from there and stopped communicating with them entirely. Take all the money, the equipment and the staff out and park it in Israel.
laugh
Then tell them Here Kitty kitty,come and get it!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 14, 2012 10:44 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
agman
agmanagmanEagle, Idaho USA3,145 Posts
WhatUwish4: They are probably roasting the Colonel as we speak. Morning O-man!

Off to the gym here.


The Colonel too. Nooooooooooooooooooooo. Armageddon

Morning K
Sep 14, 2012 10:48 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
john12196341
john12196341john12196341jamestown, North Dakota USA53 Threads 684 Posts
to put it simply we need to take our people out of there along with billions of dollars and let those people fend for themslves
Sep 14, 2012 2:55 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
john12196341: to put it simply we need to take our people out of there along with billions of dollars and let those people fend for themslves

I think the Chicago public school teachers should serve duty protecting our embassies.
And, as much as they make in seven months, they should be protecting seal teams 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7...
head banger head banger
Sep 14, 2012 3:11 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
I am going to somewhat disagree with those that are saying get out, get out, get out of the middle eastern countries. Bring them home bring them home bring them home.

I think we should redeploy regionally. Yes, get them out. But we keep such a large force offshore and in safe islands area of the Med and Indian Ocean....that they know we can come back.

The Marines are already set up to do this with their amphibious landing ship like the WASP class. We have 31 of these and more coming. The Navy has 30 some predisposition ships that carry the big stuff. They can keep 1/2 of a division in these monsters and it like the guys are sailing the med on 3 month cruise. It is good duty and lot safer than being deployed in country.

The Army is a little different they need forward island base deployment points. But same concept. It is easy duty with palm trees, beaches and waves crashing ashore.

So why stay in the region? It will cost us treasury. It cost us treasury when 911 happened. With forward deployment of man power....we have already been doing forward deployment of big military weapons. We can get to a needed hot spot in a week or less. With a major force.

They will not like it. They will consider it a invasion. American are yada yada yada again in the middle east. But what you are seeing in Egypt, Sudan, Libya, and other countries are major Jhadist movements. If they become nationalistic, militaristic or begin to support major terrorist groups. I want to fight them there. Not in Europe. Not in mid Africa. Not on the border of India. I want be in their back yard again. Forward deployment allows us to do that. And to do it fast.

Forward deployment also requires us to have a Navy and to control the skies. It means we have to be able to fight two wars.

But forward deployment does not mean they see a US Marine or Army uniform on every street corner in a capitol city. Forward deployment should get us some separation of Islam from our military to allow things to cool down.

Obama sent 50 Marine into Libya and Egypt. Call FAST teams. But there are are around 3m tourist and American business interests in the middle east and North Africa region. We have a obligation to these Americans that live and travel outside of the country to protect them. What happens if America hotel resort complex of 5000 people is in a Jhadist mob situation? A 50 man response team is not enough. You might have to control a major part of the city. Not for a length of time, but for a week or two to get those 5000 out safely.

Forward deployment like this supports our regional allies better as well. Israel, Kuwait, Saudi, the Persian Gulf Countries, Turkey and Jordan. The middle east situation is easily described as fluid. It changes from day to day. Forward deployment allows us to be there tomorrow...if not tonight. Sadam Hussien would have had a real problem in invading Kuwait with a US forward deployment in Persian Gulf.

It is simple. We stay offshore. They stay onshore. Islam is honored. No American Army is in Islam. But we are there to help regional allies.
If the bad boys in the region want to play games. We have a strong US military presence in the region to play games with them.
Sep 14, 2012 5:03 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Barry's quick Response to the Raiding of the Embassy.

Stolen from somewhere else.

When Americans were jilted people claim Obama did nothing! That simply isn't true!!!!
The same day he:

Apologized to the murderers

Blamed the murders on free speech

And went campaigning in Vegas!


What more would you have liked him to do? He also restated that the security of our embassies would remain in the care of the local authorities rather than dropping 100 equipped marines in each one.

Go Barry, go!

Well, he said;
There were 50 troops headed that way. 50 against how many radical idiots?

Sad day to be special forces. Barry will keep ya'll outnumbered by 100 to 1.
Sep 14, 2012 5:10 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
When the men who killed our ambassador to Libya were in the final stages of their preparation, Hillary Clinton was in the Cook Islands, being regaled by locals in traditional dress. Her seemingly endless world tour has prioritized symbolism and pageantry over substance. So too has the administration of her boss, Barack Obama, and the costs are now becoming clear.

This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”

Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad.

There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that.

It is worth recalling that Cairo, the city where a mob entered the US embassy compound and burned an American flag, was the epicenter of what critics call Obama’s “apology tour.” It was there that he apologized for critical steps American officials took in the Middle East to defend against the Soviets eight years before Obama was born. It was there that he criticized his own nation’s response to 9/11.

That was the reason US diplomats in Cairo instinctively put out an apologetic condemnation of those who “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” They were simply channeling the Obama view of the world.

Hillary also said that the attack was the result of a “small and savage group.”

Wrong again.

Viewed correctly, the attack was perpetrated by a very large group. Terrorism as we have known it since 9/11 is but the violent vanguard of the Islamist political ideology. This ideology unifies diverse terrorists from Jemmah Islamiyah in Indonesia to Al-Shabaab in Somalia to Boko Haram in Nigeria to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the Haqqani network in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

While the groups are diverse and at times antagonistic toward each other, their hatred of America unites them, and they work toward a generally common goal. Behind them is a large body of people who cheer on and support Islamists—a minority of Muslims, but hardly a body of people we should ignore.

The American people have instinctively understood this threat since Islamists took over Iran and took our diplomats hostage there in 1979. Our political class never has never understood this.

Instead, our foreign policy establishment, led by presidents of both parties, has spoken of “violent extremists” as if they had no common thread or clear ideological motivation. More recently, President Obama has thumped his chest about killing Al Qaeda’s founder and implied that Al Qaeda is our only real enemy. This is convenient and politically correct—but it is wrong.

If we killed everyone in Al Qaeda tomorrow, we would still have a problem that Obama, Hillary and the Washington foreign policy establishment refuse to recognize. There is a tyrannical political force in the world that is waging war on us wherever it can—both politically and militarily.

On Obama’s watch, the Islamists have done very well. They have taken over Egypt and are set to take over Syria and its chemical weapons arsenal without a change in US policy. They look ahead to the day U.S. forces leave Afghanistan—which Obama has conveniently announced to them. And in the country where modern Islamism first came to life at the nation-state level, Iran, the government is set to gain a nuclear weapons capability—another Obama legacy.
Sep 14, 2012 5:11 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Obama, Clinton Wake Up, It's Global Jihad!

Hillary ought to park the plane and understand that diplomacy—or more accurately statecraft—ought to be about recognizing and fighting these problems. Pageantry, apologies and photo ops are obviously not getting it done.

Christian Whiton was a State Department senior adviser from 2003-2009. He is principal at DC International Advisory.

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Sep 14, 2012 5:18 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Easy read graphs on the FEDERAL Budget, Deficit, Debt and Revenues.

Sep 14, 2012 5:22 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Sep 14, 2012 5:28 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Conrad73:

This explains why Obama’s chief diplomat said of the Libya attack: “I asked myself—how could this happen? How could this happen in a country we helped liberate, in a city we helped save from destruction?”

Madam secretary, it is time for you and your boss to wake up and smell the global jihad.

There are people in this world—and not a small number of them—who share the vision bin Laden had and have the will and means to act. No amount of apologizing for America, embracing our adversaries or mistreating our allies will change that.

It is worth recalling that Cairo, the city where a mob entered the US embassy compound and burned an American flag, was the epicenter of what critics call Obama’s “apology tour.” It was there that he apologized for critical steps American officials took in the Middle East to defend against the Soviets eight years before Obama was born. It was there that he criticized his own nation’s response to 9/11.

That was the reason US diplomats in Cairo instinctively put out an apologetic condemnation of those who “hurt the religious feelings of Muslims.” They were simply channeling the Obama view of the world.

Hillary also said that the attack was the result of a “small and savage group.”

Wrong again.

Viewed correctly, the attack was perpetrated by a very large group. Terrorism as we have known it since 9/11 is but the violent vanguard of the Islamist political ideology. This ideology unifies diverse terrorists from Jemmah Islamiyah in Indonesia to Al-Shabaab in Somalia to Boko Haram in Nigeria to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt to the Haqqani network in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

While the groups are diverse and at times antagonistic toward each other, their hatred of America unites them, and they work toward a generally common goal. Behind them is a large body of people who cheer on and support Islamists—a minority of Muslims, but hardly a body of people we should ignore.

The American people have instinctively understood this threat since Islamists took over Iran and took our diplomats hostage there in 1979. Our political class never has never understood this.

Instead, our foreign policy establishment, led by presidents of both parties, has spoken of “violent extremists” as if they had no common thread or clear ideological motivation. More recently, President Obama has thumped his chest about killing Al Qaeda’s founder and implied that Al Qaeda is our only real enemy. This is convenient and politically correct—but it is wrong.

If we killed everyone in Al Qaeda tomorrow, we would still have a problem that Obama, Hillary and the Washington foreign policy establishment refuse to recognize. There is a tyrannical political force in the world that is waging war on us wherever it can—both politically and militarily.

On Obama’s watch, the Islamists have done very well. They have taken over Egypt and are set to take over Syria and its chemical weapons arsenal without a change in US policy. They look ahead to the day U.S. forces leave Afghanistan—which Obama has conveniently announced to them. And in the country where modern Islamism first came to life at the nation-state level, Iran, the government is set to gain a nuclear weapons capability—another Obama legacy.


To put is simply, President Obama and his administration are lying like a group atheists at a Southern Bapbtist Convention.

Funny were all the fact checkers went on the Libyan and Egyptian events.......it was easy going during the conventions. Transcript the address and cut terms out for a computer fact check. But when someone is throwing a rock at you, you can only check the fact if hits you on the head, to confirm it is a rock. rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 14, 2012 9:25 PM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
8 hours ago, President Obama contact uTube to see if the film violated it policies and for Morusi to say this



4 hours ago, President Obama made this statement



to "never retreat form the world"

You figure. But check the release times to when the media news show were on locally.....and you get the reason for the releases.
Sep 15, 2012 6:28 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Where Was Obama?

Now we know about that 3am phone call. Straight to voicemail and was never listened to.
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Sep 15, 2012 7:48 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
They are rushing drones and spies to Libya......you know spies like Dr. Afridi...who they outed to Pakistan. The line of Spies arriving at US Embassies in the middle east to be recruited shrank like a bad banana on a stalk of green ones after what is happening to Afridi.



Really....let us rush spies to Libya.....then to Yemen.....to Sudan.....to Egypt.....to Tunsia......to Lebanon....ah heck. There are 1.3b Muslims. Let us make them all a spies and cut a monthly CIA check to each.
Sep 15, 2012 7:54 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
The White House blames the video for the trouble.....



It is not that these countries radicalized politically....or that it was the 911 anniversary. But a little seen movie with a 13 minute trailer on the net has Islam in flames.

What I am asking.....is who dubbed the Arabic version of this. The government been really fast to identity the producer and director.
But their earlier version was all in English. someone put the Arabic
on it. I am kind of wondering if the trailer could not have hi jacked and dubbed and them resubmitted on the net.
Sep 15, 2012 8:18 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50: The White House blames the video for the trouble.....



It is not that these countries radicalized politically....or that it was the 911 anniversary. But a little seen movie with a 13 minute trailer on the net has Islam in flames.

What I am asking.....is who dubbed the Arabic version of this. The government been really fast to identity the producer and director.
But their earlier version was all in English. someone put the Arabic
on it. I am kind of wondering if the trailer could not have hi jacked and dubbed and them resubmitted on the net.
Those Idiots are grasping at Straws!
Someone definitely was screwing around!
And if the Administration can't see the Connection between the Riots and the Date they started,they have no goddamn Business to run the USA!
Sep 15, 2012 8:19 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Conrad73: Those Idiots are grasping at Straws!
Someone definitely was screwing around!
And if the Administration can't see the Connection between the Riots and the Date they started,they have no goddamn Business to run the USA!
But I guess that is the usual Argument of this Do-Nothing POTUS!
Sep 15, 2012 8:26 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
This one is really interesting.

In Damascus a group when to the closed US Embassy to protest the movie.

Now.....you would think that they would be made up the SFA and Sunnis, yes? The ones that alQeada has been in making car bombs and doing that type of stuff with. Right?

Wrong.

They are pro Assad supporters. Carrying photos of Assad and Syrian flags. I have been telling people that the SFA is not as connected to radical Islam as Assad and his Alawite supporters want us to believe.
By this demonstration, it is Assad and his Alawite that are connected
radical Islam.

Sep 15, 2012 8:27 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
stringman
stringmanstringmanwallaceburg, Ontario Canada649 Threads 1 Polls 7,049 Posts
Sep 15, 2012 8:30 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Conrad73: But I guess that is the usual Argument of this Do-Nothing POTUS!
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Sep 15, 2012 8:34 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Conrad73: Those Idiots are grasping at Straws!
Someone definitely was screwing around!
And if the Administration can't see the Connection between the Riots and the Date they started,they have no goddamn Business to run the USA!


Conrad they are in full retreat in the White House on this. They don't what is causing it. They don't know were the next protest will occur.
They don't how fast it is spreading. They don't know when this will be aimed more at general Americans, like KFC being burnt out. They don't now when it run is course and die out.

Obama is trying to hang there with stiff words...."the US will not waver"....kind of remind me of Winston Churchill. But his overture to the middle east has been soundly rebuked, I think at this point.

Romney is playing it cool. He not saying anything about Islam. Just about Obama's handling of the events. Someone is going to have to pick up the pieces of the middle eastern mess that Obama left.....doh grin
Sep 15, 2012 8:37 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
That dang phone is ringing off the hook Michelle....put it under a pillow will you.laugh rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 15, 2012 8:45 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50: That dang phone is ringing off the hook Michelle....put it under a pillow will you.
Yep,and stomp on it first!rolling on the floor laughing
Sep 15, 2012 8:52 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4
WhatUwish4WhatUwish4St. Augustine, Florida USA2 Threads 7,986 Posts
TTom50: Conrad they are in full retreat in the White House on this. They don't what is causing it. They don't know were the next protest will occur.
They don't how fast it is spreading. They don't know when this will be aimed more at general Americans, like KFC being burnt out. They don't now when it run is course and die out.

Obama is trying to hang there with stiff words...."the US will not waver"....kind of remind me of Winston Churchill. But his overture to the middle east has been soundly rebuked, I think at this point.

Romney is playing it cool. He not saying anything about Islam. Just about Obama's handling of the events. Someone is going to have to pick up the pieces of the middle eastern mess that Obama left.....


Indeed. It's like we have a new hit television series..."Ineptitude on Parade." doh
Sep 15, 2012 8:57 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
WhatUwish4: Indeed. It's like we have a new hit television series..."Ineptitude on Parade."
I see the Little Idiot in the Ambassador Thread is on a Powertrip,banning People left and right,because the Thread isn't going his way,that Troll!
Sep 15, 2012 8:58 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
We have had three Colleges closed down with bomb threats. Non bombs were found, but the schools were closed and Student had to leave dorms and classrooms.

Me wonders if this not associated to the middle eastern violence.
Sep 15, 2012 8:58 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
Conrad73: I see the Little Idiot in the Ambassador Thread is on a Powertrip,banning People left and right,because the Thread isn't going his way,that Troll!
His usual MO!
Sep 15, 2012 9:00 AM CST Who is going to win the american presidential election in November? Obama or Romney?
TTom50: We have had three Colleges closed down with bomb threats. Non bombs were found, but the schools were closed and Student had to leave dorms and classrooms.

Me wonders if this not associated to the middle eastern violence.
wouldn't be surprised!
Would be the second-best thing if you can't mount real Attacks.
So far the whole thing looks orchestrated,to hell with what the MESSiah in the Mansion says!
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