Organ Donation: ( Archived) (42)

Feb 16, 2013 11:45 AM CSTOrgan Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales, Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts

Organ Donation:(Vote Below)

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People should have the option to opt IN to donate
6
13%
People should be unless they opt OUT
8
17%
I am a registered organ donor
7
15%
I am not a registered organ donor
10
22%
#3 and #1
3
7%
#3 and #2
4
9%
#4 and #1
2
4%
#4 and #2
0
0%
I disagree totally with organ donation
2
4%
I don't want to even think about it
4
9%
Total Votes
46
I myself am a registered donor and my family is well aware of my wishes. They also AGREE with it so that makes me feel sure that my wishes will be followed. Yes, we have had the conversation.

Some-one I worked with said she did not want to donate her organs as she did not feel comfortable about it.

I see a buried useful organ as a death sentence, or lack of a better life for another person.

How do YOU feel?



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Feb 16, 2013 11:50 AM CST Organ Donation:
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
I did a thread on this awhile ago and I was surprised that in some countries you are automatically an organ donor unless you choose not to be by notification.

Here in the U.S. you can agree to it by a check mark on your drivers license but I think it still needs to be approved by the family.

I am a registered organ donor. I doubt there will be any good organs when I die but they can have a go at it if it will help someone live a little longer.
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Feb 16, 2013 11:58 AM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
montemonte: I did a thread on this awhile ago and I was surprised that in some countries you are automatically an organ donor unless you choose not to be by notification.

Here in the U.S. you can agree to it by a check mark on your drivers license but I think it still needs to be approved by the family.

I am a registered organ donor. I doubt there will be any good organs when I die but they can have a go at it if it will help someone live a little longer.


HI Monte,

In Australia it also goes on your driver's license, however, we also have an organ donor site where you officially register and get an organ donor card. That way people can't say they didn't know your wishes, although I am sure they can try to contest it.

I really wonder why those that voted "no" would feel if their child needed a liver to survive?

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Feb 16, 2013 12:02 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
JeanKimberley: that's another thread.....

although I am a brain donor - my theory is that I am awfully old now so most of my other organs are used..... hence the brain donation.....

I sure hope they don't come to get it before I am dead..


I also am a brain donor to a neuroscience department at a major university. I am hoping it will help them with their research.

I also don't think my organs will be much good when I am finished with them, but my corneas are still in excellent condition so I hope they can give some-one sight.

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Feb 16, 2013 12:04 PM CST Organ Donation:
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
I've never been an organ donor cause it was by choice.

I've never been a registered voter either.


It's because I chose not to be either.
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Feb 16, 2013 12:05 PM CST Organ Donation:
Sliprywnwt
SliprywnwtSliprywnwtMissouri, USA37 Threads 15 Polls 211 Posts
I'm prepared to donate whatever I can to help someone else once I'm gone.wine I won't be needing them once I'm gone anyway so I opt to assist the needy and less fortunate grin .
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Feb 16, 2013 12:11 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7: I also am a brain donor to a neuroscience department at a major university. I am hoping it will help them with their research.

I also don't think my organs will be much good when I am finished with them, but my corneas are still in excellent condition so I hope they can give some-one sight.


Me too - only I think I lied and told them my brain is normal..... hope it doesn't skew their research. laugh
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Feb 16, 2013 12:15 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
JeanKimberley: Me too - only I think I lied and told them my brain is normal..... hope it doesn't skew their research.


Hi Jean...they know my brain is not so no explanation needed for their data

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Feb 16, 2013 12:15 PM CST Organ Donation:
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
Hi Pisceslady, this is something I wanted to look into for a while but never got aroud. Just looked it up and applied for a card.

Apparently here in Ireland it's enough to tell your family your wishes (my family lives abroad) or have it on your drivers license (I have an European license, not on that). dunno So a card should indicate my wishes.

I think it's only fair, that if I have an accident and would require a transplant, that if something happens to me someone else's life could be improved or saved. handshake
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Feb 16, 2013 12:20 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
KNenagh: Hi Pisceslady, this is something I wanted to look into for a while but never got aroud. Just looked it up and applied for a card.

Apparently here in Ireland it's enough to tell your family your wishes (my family lives abroad) or have it on your drivers license (I have an European license, not on that). So a card should indicate my wishes.

I think it's only fair, that if I have an accident and would require a transplant, that if something happens to me someone else's life could be improved or saved.




Yes, KNenagh,
it is definitely a conversation we need to have with family. I am sure that if something DOES happen (and I hope it does not) that both our organs can save a life. What a great gift to give another person and their family.


bouquet
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Feb 16, 2013 12:25 PM CST Organ Donation:
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
I thought we had an opt out thingy here in the UK, but apparently not yet.

I've just registered.

See the power of your poll, Pisces. tip hat



PS. I looked into live organ donation a couple of years ago when my dad was ill. Now there's a tricky number...and an interesting discussion.
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Feb 16, 2013 12:27 PM CST Organ Donation:
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
pisceslady7: Yes, KNenagh,
it is definitely a conversation we need to have with family. I am sure that if something DOES happen (and I hope it does not) that both our organs can save a life. What a great gift to give another person and their family.


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We had this conversation in general in our family already, so I don't think they would stop it. Problem is, should something happen to me, it might take too long to contact them and if they get my mum, she doesn't have much English.

I know someone who had a kidney transplant 15-20 years ago and he needs another kidney soon (never drank etc.) He is in his 40's, should something happen to me, I know how much it can help someone.
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Feb 16, 2013 12:32 PM CST Organ Donation:
Susanne1
Susanne1Susanne1Kreuzberg, Berlin Germany7 Threads 2 Polls 437 Posts
I've been registered as an organ donor for decades and my family know what to do too.
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Feb 16, 2013 12:41 PM CST Organ Donation:
check_mate
check_matecheck_mateLondon, Greater London, England UK42 Threads 12 Polls 968 Posts
pisceslady7: I myself am a registered donor and my family is well aware of my wishes. They also AGREE with it so that makes me feel sure that my wishes will be followed. Yes, we have had the conversation.

Some-one I worked with said she did not want to donate her organs as she did not feel comfortable about it.

I see a buried useful organ as a death sentence, or lack of a better life for another person.

How do YOU feel?


I think it should be optional and it is an option in the UK
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Feb 16, 2013 12:48 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
I type rather teary-eyed. I had NO idea that my putting this thread up would lead to people actually registering as donors.

There are so many people in this world that need donations. My father needed a lung transplant but refused to go on the list as he had smoked most of his life and his children were now over 18. He felt it should go to others.

I see small children on the TV all the time who need a kidney or a liver and have less than a year to live if they don't get one. It breaks my heart that so many good organs are buried and turned to dust.

I am ever so touched. THANK YOU!

teddybear



(For those in Australia that don't know, you can actually choose to donate AND also ask that some organs NOT be donated.)
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Feb 16, 2013 12:51 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
KNenagh: We had this conversation in general in our family already, so I don't think they would stop it. Problem is, should something happen to me, it might take too long to contact them and if they get my mum, she doesn't have much English.

I know someone who had a kidney transplant 15-20 years ago and he needs another kidney soon (never drank etc.) He is in his 40's, should something happen to me, I know how much it can help someone.


KNenagh, could you send your mother a letter and have her sign it and have it witnessed in her own language as well as a copy in English? Then you could entrust the document to whomever you have named close-at-hand as next-of-kin to be notified if necessary. Just a thought

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Feb 16, 2013 12:53 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
jac379: I thought we had an opt out thingy here in the UK, but apparently not yet.

I've just registered.

See the power of your poll, Pisces.
PS. I looked into live organ donation a couple of years ago when my dad was ill. Now there's a tricky number...and an interesting discussion.



You are right Jac...that is a whole new ballgame! An ex-partner of mine donated a kidney to his brother...luckily they were a match.
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Feb 16, 2013 12:58 PM CST Organ Donation:
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
pisceslady7: KNenagh, could you send your mother a letter and have her sign it and have it witnessed in her own language as well as a copy in English? Then you could entrust the document to whomever you have named close-at-hand as next-of-kin to be notified if necessary. Just a thought


Thanks Pisceslady, I will look into it, I did request a donor card and if there are requirements I will get it signed by my family. I also will mention it to my mum but we all talked in general about it. It's a good idea, thanks. hug

Great thread, I think something like that escape people's mind if you are not affected personally, and a thread like that can get people to actually do something about it. bouquet
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Feb 16, 2013 1:07 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
KNenagh: Thanks Pisceslady, I will look into it, I did request a donor card and if there are requirements I will get it signed by my family. I also will mention it to my mum but we all talked in general about it. It's a good idea, thanks.

Great thread, I think something like that escape people's mind if you are not affected personally, and a thread like that can get people to actually do something about it.


Posting a link on social media sites for your countries registry should also save some lives or at least get the conversation started.


I think it is unfair to NOT discuss it with loved ones as they are then in the position to have to decide at a terrible time in their lives.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:15 PM CST Organ Donation:
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
pisceslady7: Posting a link on social media sites for your countries registry should also save some lives or at least get the conversation started. I think it is unfair to NOT discuss it with loved ones as they are then in the position to have to decide at a terrible time in their lives.



In the U.S. the family still has to make the final decision.

If someone is in a terrible accident and dies, they are taken to the hospital to be put in the morgue. The hospital will look at ther persons license to check to see if this person agreed to organ transplans. They then have to contact family members to ask about if they are agreeable because even though the license of the deceased says "yes" the hospital still needs permission to do it. There is a time contraint for how long organs are good so it's imperative to find someone to give permission. If no family member can be found, as far as I know, the hospital is allowed to go ahead with taking the organ. If they are sued later on, I guess they keep a copy of the license.

Point I'm making is, the hospital can't go ahead to remove organs even though the license says okay. They need a confirmation to do it.

It works the same way an Advanced Directive works.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:21 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7
pisceslady7pisceslady7Kincumber nr. Gosford, New South Wales Australia21 Threads 4 Polls 1,910 Posts
Thank you all for your comments. I am off to bed (at 6:20 a.m) but shall be back tomorrow to see any other comments



Nite all yawn
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Feb 16, 2013 1:22 PM CST Organ Donation:
mitsos
mitsosmitsoslarnaca,famagusta, Nicosia Cyprus17 Threads 801 Posts
I am of the opinion that everyone should be
an after death organ donor without opt out choice.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:29 PM CST Organ Donation:
Boban1
Boban1Boban1bigplace, Central Serbia Serbia144 Threads 5 Polls 18,789 Posts
Dadude62: Will you donate your organ?

yes
to the lonely rich women association ...
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Feb 16, 2013 1:31 PM CST Organ Donation:
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
pisceslady7: Posting a link on social media sites for your countries registry should also save some lives or at least get the conversation started. I think it is unfair to NOT discuss it with loved ones as they are then in the position to have to decide at a terrible time in their lives.


It depends on the stance your family have. We did discuss it in general terms and they will accept my decision, I'm just not sure if a big discussion would upset my mom. dunno

If something happens to me here, it would probably take too long to get in contact with my family, so a donor card should give the go ahead even without permission of the family.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:32 PM CST Organ Donation:
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
pisceslady7: I myself am a registered donor and my family is well aware of my wishes. They also AGREE with it so that makes me feel sure that my wishes will be followed. Yes, we have had the conversation.

Some-one I worked with said she did not want to donate her organs as she did not feel comfortable about it.

I see a buried useful organ as a death sentence, or lack of a better life for another person.

How do YOU feel?


I am a registered donor and did make the decision to donate parents organs. One question that did occur to me years later is, do hospitals make a profit on the sale of an organ? If they do, it seems to me they should compensate the donor's family to defray funeral costs etc.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:33 PM CST Organ Donation:
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
Boban1: yes
to the lonely rich women association ...


Not talking about while you are alive,,,,laugh
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Feb 16, 2013 1:45 PM CST Organ Donation:
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
KNenagh: It depends on the stance your family have. We did discuss it in general terms and they will accept my decision, I'm just not sure if a big discussion would upset my mom.

If something happens to me here, it would probably take too long to get in contact with my family, so a donor card should give the go ahead even without permission of the family.

To cross over on the two threads, upsetting family may well be a reason for opting out of donating, whilst being open to accepting a donation.

If family members have religious beliefs about the body being buried intact and in its entirety, or simple can't face the idea of bits missing even in death, it may cause them a far more complex grief.

If you think about it, donating loved one's organs requires either a certain state of shock, or an acceptance that the person is gone in a very narrow time scale after the death.

Discussion and preparation before hand may help, but the state of shock whereby someone cannot yet accept the death may well interfere with the decision making process at that moment in time.

For many "I don't want to hear I've lost my mum" is maybe not so far away from, "I don't want to hear about losing bits of my mum". In immediate grief, we tend to want to naturally claw back that which we have lost, not give away.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:51 PM CST Organ Donation:
KNenagh
KNenaghKNenaghAachen, Kilkenny Ireland12 Threads 11,160 Posts
jac379: To cross over on the two threads, upsetting family may well be a reason for opting out of donating, whilst being open to accepting a donation.

If family members have religious beliefs about the body being buried intact and in its entirety, or simple can't face the idea of bits missing even in death, it may cause them a far more complex grief.

If you think about it, donating loved one's organs requires either a certain state of shock, or an acceptance that the person is gone in a very narrow time scale after the death.

Discussion and preparation before hand may help, but the state of shock whereby someone cannot yet accept the death may well interfere with the decision making process at that moment in time.

For many "I don't want to hear I've lost my mum" is maybe not so far away from, "I don't want to hear about losing bits of my mum". In immediate grief, we tend to want to naturally claw back that which we have lost, not give away.


I do agree there Jac, I don't think a family should have to make a decision like that after being confronted with the death of a family member. They are in a state of shock, knowing that it was my wish shouldn't upset them if they hear afterwards that some of my organs were donated. I will talk to them about it and don't expect any discussions.
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Feb 16, 2013 1:59 PM CST Organ Donation:
MICKEYMOST
MICKEYMOSTMICKEYMOSTNORTHAMPTON, Northamptonshire, England UK155 Posts
Here's a story to melt your hearts.





In the UK at the moment there is a drive to get more people to donate.

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Feb 16, 2013 2:04 PM CST Organ Donation:
pisceslady7: I myself am a registered donor and my family is well aware of my wishes. They also AGREE with it so that makes me feel sure that my wishes will be followed. Yes, we have had the conversation.

Some-one I worked with said she did not want to donate her organs as she did not feel comfortable about it.

I see a buried useful organ as a death sentence, or lack of a better life for another person.

How do YOU feel?


In my area there is a place that will cremate your body for free, if they can use your body for science, for a few weeks.
The only cost to the family is death certificates.
I am a registered donor and so is my daughter.
The soul is gone and if this empty temple can aid others, let it.
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Feb 16, 2013 2:07 PM CST Organ Donation:
Dadude62
Dadude62Dadude62Elkton, Maryland USA1,120 Posts
NAKEDMUDPEOPLE: In my area there is a place that will cremate your body for free, if they can use your body for science, for a few weeks.
The only cost to the family is death certificates.
I am a registered donor and so is my daughter.
The soul is gone and if this empty temple can aid others, let it.


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