Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability (159)

Mar 17, 2013 8:28 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
justjim63: Kim, if i offended You i sincerely apologise, if you look back on the posts you will see that i was being supportive of people with disabilities, I think most people who live daily with disabilities are incredible people, I would never make fun of these people or their circumstances.I hope we can move forward from this and wish you well in life.
that should have said it is not fun when I typed all that I did not realize that I left out a word.
Mar 17, 2013 8:32 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
NotABlonde
NotABlondeNotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia8 Threads 1,210 Posts
Kim431: that should not matter about the extent of the disability, admit it you do not want to take care of that person. You are scared to get close to someone with a disability.


Of course it matters. If the disability is severe and I have to look after them, how would we live? I have my son to consider so need to provide for him first and foremost......

However I'd have a bigger problem getting close to someone with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Don't bother trying to flame me, I really couldn't give a toss.
Mar 17, 2013 8:36 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
NotABlonde: Of course it matters. If the disability is severe and I have to look after them, how would we live? I have my son to consider so need to provide for him first and foremost......

However I'd have a bigger problem getting close to someone with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Don't bother trying to flame me, I really couldn't give a toss.
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Mar 17, 2013 8:37 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Kim431: that should not matter about the extent of the disability, admit it you do not want to take care of that person. You are scared to get close to someone with a disability.



99% of people on CS are sympathetic to disabilities, because we realise that none of us are perfect.

You are not giving people a chance to get to know the real you.

You are lashing out because of your own pain. Ok so you got a raw deal from life, but you are alive, the first think you must do (if you want) is embrace the people who want to be your friends on here, let them know how hard it is to be you. Be an ambassador for all disabled people.

I am trying to be helpful but making a bit of a hash of it, sorry
Mar 17, 2013 8:41 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Migsy
MigsyMigsycandelaria quezon, Calabarzon Philippines16 Threads 1,632 Posts
Now that make sense daddy tom meow:

devil: cheering
tomcatwarne: 99% of people on CS are sympathetic to disabilities, because we realise that none of us are perfect.

You are not giving people a chance to get to know the real you.

You are lashing out because of your own pain. Ok so you got a raw deal from life, but you are alive, the first think you must do (if you want) is embrace the people who want to be your friends on here, let them know how hard it is to be you. Be an ambassador for all disabled people.

I am trying to be helpful but making a bit of a hash of it, sorry
Mar 17, 2013 8:43 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
tomcatwarne
tomcatwarnetomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK289 Threads 7 Polls 17,106 Posts
Migsy: Now that make sense daddy tom meow:

devil:


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Mar 17, 2013 8:44 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kim431: that should not matter about the extent of the disability, admit it you do not want to take care of that person. You are scared to get close to someone with a disability.

Yes, I think its true we are sometimes scared to get close to someone with a disability. Different disabilities frighten different people in different ways.

I think we are sometimes scared because we lack the knowledge of how to deal with a certain disability, or care for someone with a disability.

But there are also many other things which are a factor as well, Kim. Someone may think you are the most beautiful person in the world, or think that I am. Others's will find neither of us attractive. Sometimes we just fancy the pants off someone and sometimes we don't. We just have to accept that not everyone will be attracted to us.

There maybe other people's commitments, or life-style choices. If someone feels they haven't the time, or strength to care for a disabled partner, then that's their choice. Its good they are honest, rather than making promises they can't keep. If someone simply doesn't want to be a carer, or deal with someone else's disability, that is also their choice. You can't force people to look after you, or live with you, or accept you, not any of us.

You mentioned your mother and the worry she has lived with seeing you go through so many surgeries. Maybe some people couldn't cope, or don't want to cope with that level of worry.

We can talk about the fear of disability, though, and maybe by learning from each other that fear will lessen.
Mar 17, 2013 8:51 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Migsy
MigsyMigsycandelaria quezon, Calabarzon Philippines16 Threads 1,632 Posts
Hey miss kim my mail is always open for you bouquet i would love to hear from youteddybear
Mar 17, 2013 9:02 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
justjim63
justjim63justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia14 Threads 2,592 Posts
tomcatwarne: 99% of people on CS are sympathetic to disabilities, because we realise that none of us are perfect.

You are not giving people a chance to get to know the real you.

You are lashing out because of your own pain. Ok so you got a raw deal from life, but you are alive, the first think you must do (if you want) is embrace the people who want to be your friends on here, let them know how hard it is to be you. Be an ambassador for all disabled people.

I am trying to be helpful but making a bit of a hash of it, sorry


Tomcat, You didn't make a hash of it at all, it was very well said, good on You.thumbs up cheers
Mar 17, 2013 9:22 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
NotABlonde: If I'm honest it would depend on the extent of the disability.

Me too.

My daughter and granddaughter are about to move into a home of their own for the first time, I have a university place lined up for next September and it will be three years of working for a living and studying before I qualify.

Right this moment, I would not want to be a full time carer, as I'm just coming to the end of nearly twenty years of being one. and I'm doing some stuff for me.

I would be happy to adapt to someone else's needs, however, or be with someone who is disabled, or unwell in some way if they were also independent in many ways.

In the future, who knows? Maybe I would be happy being a full-time carer again if once qualified, I could work from home.
Mar 17, 2013 9:28 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
NotABlonde
NotABlondeNotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia8 Threads 1,210 Posts
jac379: Me too.



Ok, I'm gonna hide behind you when she comes back.
Mar 17, 2013 10:53 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
NotABlonde: Ok, I'm gonna hide behind you when she comes back.

laugh

Chicken!
Mar 17, 2013 11:55 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
mariespoodles
mariespoodlesmariespoodlesSydney, New South Wales Australia25 Threads 1,648 Posts
jac379: Dammit, I'm probably a day too late to aking this question, but what are your coping stategies for dealing with not being able to facially express?

When my dog became profoundly deaf, we'd frequently communicate via facial expression. I hadn't realised until then quite how significant facial expression is - its shaped our evolution as well as our best friends'.

When he became blind as well, we were left with touch, including the vibrations caused by me tapping my foot, or banging a broom handle on the floor.

I would suggest the thing that hinders adaptation is the person's environment, both physically and emotionally. If the world is full of steps it disables the wheelchair user; if the world is full of fear it disables the different; if the world is full of boxes, there's little space left outside them for creativity.



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Mar 17, 2013 12:05 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
jac379: Ahaa, now I have a clearer picture about how you feel.

The woman who created this thread was asking because she has a disability. She has the right to ask questions like this for herself. She wanted to know the answer.

Yes, some people have said they wouldn't date someone with a disability, but that means we can ask, "Why not?"

The more we talk about disability, the more people will understand what its like to have a disability. The more people understand, the less likely they are to say bad things about people with disabilities.

You, as a disabled woman, have an opportunity to tell us what its been like for you and how you feel. You have the opportunity to educate people all over the world about your particular disability through this forum.

Make use of it! Try and a find a good way which reaches out to people, please? It will be better for all of us.
that is what I tried to say all along without spelling out, I know you know how to read between the lines, yes I am disabled my profile picture proves it.
Mar 17, 2013 1:02 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
suds00
suds00suds00crown point, Indiana USA13 Threads 160 Posts
as someone with a disability that limits him somewhat i would say that women who would willingly take on a disabled man are not legion.they exist but are not the majority.oftentimes it's a matter of logistics.
Mar 17, 2013 1:12 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
TinyDancer99801
TinyDancer99801TinyDancer99801Alaska, USA10 Posts
I would marry someone with a disability... But not if they were missing a few fingers or an arm D:

I really like hands and I just can't imagine someone snuggling me from behind DX with an arm over my chest and then look down to see he only has 2 fingers.. Ahhhhhh...... :( but if I fell in love with a man who only had 5 or 7 fingers total.. I would love him.. I'd just have issues seeing the hand
Mar 17, 2013 3:44 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kim431: that is what I tried to say all along without spelling out, I know you know how to read between the lines, yes I am disabled my profile picture proves it.

When we are talking to each other on the internet, we can't see each other getting upset, or angry, or laughing. We really do have to spell things out to make ourselves clear.

I can try reading between the lines. I can try guessing what its like for you, but I don't know what its like to live with your abilities and disabilties. I only know what its like to live with my abilities and disabilities. My guesses about yours would probably be all wrong.

If you would like to explain how you feel and what its like to live your life maybe you could spell it out to us a little bit at a time, by joining in the conversation with us?

You have every right to be angry if you have been treated badly because of you disability, but getting angry at people having a conversation about disabilities doesn't help anyone to learn.

We can express our anger simply by saying, "What you've just said makes me feel angry" and then explain why it makes you feel angry.
Mar 17, 2013 4:03 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
NotABlonde: Of course it matters. If the disability is severe and I have to look after them, how would we live? I have my son to consider so need to provide for him first and foremost......

However I'd have a bigger problem getting close to someone with a huge chip on their shoulder.
Don't bother trying to flame me, I really couldn't give a toss.
if you care about them it should not matter and you had read the long blog I left earlier today you would know that I am trying to get across that if you do not give us a chance then that is your fault you are too scared to get close to a disabled person, you did not read that post that I left so who has a chip on their shoulder I said I was sorry that it was only the people who said no to be friends or getting married to a disabled person, those are the ones I really am not happy with and to be honest notablonde that is a real shame but in any case good luck anyway, oh and you can even ask justjim about that long post I left too bad you were not on when I did leave it, you would not feel the way you do. At least that is not my loss.
Mar 17, 2013 4:21 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
jac379: When we are talking to each other on the internet, we can't see each other getting upset, or angry, or laughing. We really do have to spell things out to make ourselves clear.

I can try reading between the lines. I can try guessing what its like for you, but I don't know what its like to live with your abilities and disabilties. I only know what its like to live with my abilities and disabilities. My guesses about yours would probably be all wrong.

If you would like to explain how you feel and what its like to live your life maybe you could spell it out to us a little bit at a time, by joining in the conversation with us?

You have every right to be angry if you have been treated badly because of you disability, but getting angry at people having a conversation about disabilities doesn't help anyone to learn.

We can express our anger simply by saying, "What you've just said makes me feel angry" and then explain why it makes you feel angry.
Jac I have explained why it upsets me when other people refuse to give us a chance, it is not fair to us or them because they choose to ignore us or to talk behind our back, laugh at us or tease us or to even ask 1000 questions (kids) do that and it hurts.
Mar 17, 2013 4:24 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
Kim431: Jac I have explained why it upsets me when other people refuse to give us a chance, it is not fair to us or them because they choose to ignore us or to talk behind our back, laugh at us or tease us or to even ask 1000 questions (kids) do that and it hurts and not only that but you all can see my picture it is the real thing, I am real as real as I come..
Mar 17, 2013 4:42 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
That should have said as real as they come
Mar 17, 2013 4:50 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
Kim431: Jac I have explained why it upsets me when other people refuse to give us a chance, it is not fair to us or them because they choose to ignore us or to talk behind our back, laugh at us or tease us or to even ask 1000 questions (kids) do that and it hurts.

I wouldn't expect everyone to give me a chance. If someone doesn't fancy me, like what I say, if someone thinks I'm too much trouble because I'm partially dependent upon lip-reading, or doesn't like it that I don't drive a car, that's just the way it is. Nothing I can do about it. I can't force people to want to be friends, or have a relationship with me. All I can do is try and be nice enough so I can make and keep friends.

I'm one of those people who asks a thousand questions about everything. I realise some people find that annoying, but how can I learn about things, or understand things unless I ask questions? Asking questions about each other is a way of becoming close - I call that emotional intimacy.

What kind of teasing are you talking about? I tease just about everyone if I can get away with it. Its kind of a gentle way of flirting, or making friends in British culture.
Mar 17, 2013 4:57 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
Not use the right term they say crippled kids would look at me and say what is wrong, the parent would say she is crippled not disabled.
Mar 17, 2013 5:00 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
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Mar 17, 2013 5:03 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
A_Non_A_Moose
A_Non_A_MooseA_Non_A_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada116 Threads 8 Polls 4,340 Posts
Japtas: Curious


Hey japtas,....would you? Curious?
Mar 17, 2013 7:16 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
NotABlonde
NotABlondeNotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia8 Threads 1,210 Posts
Kim431: if you care about them it should not matter and you had read the long blog I left earlier today you would know that I am trying to get across that if you do not give us a chance then that is your fault you are too scared to get close to a disabled person, you did not read that post that I left so who has a chip on their shoulder I said I was sorry that it was only the people who said no to be friends or getting married to a disabled person, those are the ones I really am not happy with and to be honest notablonde that is a real shame but in any case good luck anyway, oh and you can even ask justjim about that long post I left too bad you were not on when I did leave it, you would not feel the way you do. At least that is not my loss.


The point being I wouldn't care about them that way because I wouldn't be close to them.....same as i wouldn't be close to the man at the bus stop who is probably perfectly dateable, but doesn't interest me.

What you're saying is I should go out of my way to discriminate favourably towards a disabled person. Why would they need me to? I'm sure there is someone out there for everyone and I know for certain I wouldn't have the patience to be with a severely disabled person....that's neither their problem nor mine, it's simply a fact.

I read every post in the thread, none of them made me think I should treat someone differently BECAUSE they have a disability. I'd choose who I married based on lots of things, our ability to make each other happy being one of the main criteria. There are lots of supposedly normal people I also wouldn't date for various reasons, I wouldn't "give them a chance" either.

Stop trying to make everyone appear discriminating, we're really not.
Mar 17, 2013 7:26 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
It is going to be interesting as we now have a lot of soldiers returning from the war (or action or whatever we are calling it) and have healing injuries -

I don't think of any of them as disabled. of course they are too young for me to date, however if I was younger and they were Scottish, I would.
Mar 17, 2013 7:28 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
NotABlonde
NotABlondeNotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia8 Threads 1,210 Posts
JeanKimberley: and they were Scottish, I would.




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Mar 17, 2013 7:32 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
Kim431
Kim431Kim431fairmont, West Virginia USA1 Threads 34 Posts
NotABlonde: The point being I wouldn't care about them that way because I wouldn't be close to them.....same as i wouldn't be close to the man at the bus stop who is probably perfectly dateable, but doesn't interest me.

What you're saying is I should go out of my way to discriminate favourably towards a disabled person. Why would they need me to? I'm sure there is someone out there for everyone and I know for certain I wouldn't have the patience to be with a severely disabled person....that's neither their problem nor mine, it's simply a fact.

I read every post in the thread, none of them made me think I should treat someone differently BECAUSE they have a disability. I'd choose who I married based on lots of things, our ability to make each other happy being one of the main criteria. There are lots of supposedly normal people I also wouldn't date for various reasons, I wouldn't "give them a chance" either.

Stop trying to make everyone appear discriminating, we're really not.
you know darn well I am not doing that, I am say that a disabled person needs a chance as much as an baled body person does, you are scared to get close to a disabled man as well as an baled body man who is not disabled, people should give each other a chance disabled and baled body alike we are ALL human beings and should be treated as such, not like animals. I do not know what you are scared of but, you are scared of something.
Mar 17, 2013 7:35 PM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
NotABlonde
NotABlondeNotABlondeSpringwood, New South Wales Australia8 Threads 1,210 Posts
Kim431: you know darn well I am not doing that, I am say that a disabled person needs a chance as much as an baled body person does, you are scared to get close to a disabled man as well as an baled body man who is not disabled, people should give each other a chance disabled and baled body alike we are ALL human beings and should be treated as such, not like animals. I do not know what you are scared of but, you are scared of something.


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