jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Thanks for high lighting Korats excellent post, Marie. I hadn't seen it.
In response to Korat: I wonder if part of the reason why disabiility (or differences in ability, as I prefer) is such a closed and taboo subject is because we're still influenced by ancient concepts of differences being the devil's work, or some kind of punishment for badness.
The more taboo, or closed a subject becomes, the less we are able to deal with it as we haven't had the opportunity to develop which skills to use.
I'll hazard a guess that not one person on planet earth is without a disability. Perhaps we may start with seeing how many people have the ability to paint portraits?
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
The behaviour and attitude of a certain person on here recently, got me thinking.
Of course the knee jerk reaction would be to say "of course it wouldn't make any difference. But wouldn't it? If the other persons behavioral traits were such that the relationship was doomed for failure, I would have to think twice. This of course would apply to anyone.
Mar 17, 2013 6:45 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
supercexerNear By ( Hyd And Khi), Sindh Pakistan1 Threads2 Posts
supercexerNear By ( Hyd And Khi), Sindh Pakistan2 posts
I think everyone have right to live and enjoy ... so i dont think .. handicap people can live back ... i honesty say that i can accpet any handicap Girl for me .. bcuz i know she need a caring and loving husband ... if i got one .. then im ready to do my duty care her and also cooking washing etc .. Humanity is important than Religon .. and i know what is handicap ... bcuz i have worked in Handicap International Freance .. in pakistan mission ... its a NGO....
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
tomcatwarne: Huh, I never called you anything, if you look back I was defending you.????????????
I called her a coward and i stand by it, just because you have a disability doesn't give you the right to rant and rave at people trying to have a civil discussion on the topic of people with disabilities, you were rude, disrespectful and dismissive of others opinions, you were also openly hostile to the posters.You then abused me by privately messaging me and cowardly blocked me so that i didn't have the right of reply.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
justjim63: I called her a coward and i stand by it, just because you have a disability doesn't give you the right to rant and rave at people trying to have a civil discussion on the topic of people with disabilities, you were rude, disrespectful and dismissive of others opinions, you were also openly hostile to the posters.You then abused me by privately messaging me and cowardly blocked me so that i didn't have the right of reply.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
MBT77: I have Moebius Syndrome, I can't smile, or blink and show emotion. It has been tough for me, but I still get by. So yes, I would. It gains more experiences for you and for them, communication is still key no matter who you are.
Dammit, I'm probably a day too late to aking this question, but what are your coping stategies for dealing with not being able to facially express?
When my dog became profoundly deaf, we'd frequently communicate via facial expression. I hadn't realised until then quite how significant facial expression is - its shaped our evolution as well as our best friends'.
When he became blind as well, we were left with touch, including the vibrations caused by me tapping my foot, or banging a broom handle on the floor.
I would suggest the thing that hinders adaptation is the person's environment, both physically and emotionally. If the world is full of steps it disables the wheelchair user; if the world is full of fear it disables the different; if the world is full of boxes, there's little space left outside them for creativity.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
justjim63: I called her a coward and i stand by it, just because you have a disability doesn't give you the right to rant and rave at people trying to have a civil discussion on the topic of people with disabilities, you were rude, disrespectful and dismissive of others opinions, you were also openly hostile to the posters.You then abused me by privately messaging me and cowardly blocked me so that i didn't have the right of reply.
I didn't try replying.
I'm beginning to wonder if Kim is firing on all four cylinders, in which case arguing with her, or pointing out her misconduct is likely to be fruitless and may even be unfair in the way that we're doing it.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
jac379: I didn't try replying.
I'm beginning to wonder if Kim is firing on all four cylinders, in which case arguing with her, or pointing out her misconduct is likely to be fruitless and may even be unfair in the way that we're doing it.
You're quite right of course Jac, i'll cease and desist from this moment in.
I know there's a particular poster on this thread who's getting under some people's skins.
There has to be a reason either within her past that has made this particular person so angry and lash out at others.
Just the other day she banned me from her thread and hid my comment.All I was was nice to her and asked her a question of why she was so angry.
I don't think it's a very good idea for some to call her names it just makes her just that much more angry and lash out.I think it's best not to respond to her at all.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
Ccincy: I know there's a particular poster on this thread who's getting under some people's skins.
There has to be a reason either within her past that has made this particular person so angry and lash out at others.Just the other day she banned me from her thread and hid my comment.All I was was nice to her and asked her a question of why she was so angry.I don't think it's a very good idea for some to call her names it just makes her just that much more angry and lash out.I think it's best not to respond to her at all.
I agree Ccincy, in retrospect it was the wrong thing for me to do, i have taken your comments on board and will not comment to her further or use any names in relation to her.
Mar 17, 2013 7:19 AM CST Would you marry someone with a handicap/disability
summersumNewcastle, Tyne and Wear, England UK13 Posts
summersumNewcastle, Tyne and Wear, England UK13 posts
I have a friend in a wheelchair and has been since an accident 20 years ago. He will absolutely flatly refuse to date anyone in a wheelchair. He has an able bodied girlfriend now and that's the way he prefers it. It's his choice, his preference. We all have them and are entitled to them. I wouldn't marry a drug user or someone who made money by conning people etc etc. if I was in a relationship with someone and loved him with all my heart and he became disabled, Yes I'd marry him because it's love. Would I start a relationship with someone who is disabled probably not because of my lifestyle but that doesn't mean I don't like or respect people who have suffered a disability. It just means its my choice and that shouldn't be offensive.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
summersum: I have a friend in a wheelchair and has been since an accident 20 years ago. He will absolutely flatly refuse to date anyone in a wheelchair. He has an able bodied girlfriend now and that's the way he prefers it. It's his choice, his preference. We all have them and are entitled to them. I wouldn't marry a drug user or someone who made money by conning people etc etc. if I was in a relationship with someone and loved him with all my heart and he became disabled, Yes I'd marry him because it's love. Would I start a relationship with someone who is disabled probably not because of my lifestyle but that doesn't mean I don't like or respect people who have suffered a disability. It just means its my choice and that shouldn't be offensive.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
jac379: As long as they're big mirrors.
That's why we have to ask, "Does my bum look fat in this?" It doesn't always fit in the mirror for us to make our own judgement.
"Does my bum look fat in this?" Possibly one of the greatest dilemma's faced by males, is there ever a right way to answer that question, should it in fact be answered? That's when we say "is that the phone ringing?" exit stage left!
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
justjim63: "Does my bum look fat in this?" Possibly one of the greatest dilemma's faced by males, is there ever a right way to answer that question, should it in fact be answered? That's when we say "is that the phone ringing?" exit stage left!
NotABlonde: If I'm honest it would depend on the extent of the disability.
that should not matter about the extent of the disability, admit it you do not want to take care of that person. You are scared to get close to someone with a disability.
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Other than that, I would consider anything and everything else if I were looking.