StormMc: The whole thing your mising is that you have a very shallow understanding of what went on like the lady says it was more than black and white there was a lot more to it as well as tribilisation among the black people as well as the dutch white and british white
Your sermon to someone else,as far understanding is concern.-Lived there for few decades. Your black and white was to have the indigenous people,as second class citizens????
chris27292729: Your sermon to someone else,as far understanding is concern.-Lived there for few decades. Your black and white was to have the indigenous people,as second class citizens????
yea, i don't think i'm going to get into a political debate with you, chris. you're right, it was...but as i said, it was a LOT more complicated than that. hope you enjoyed your stay there.
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
chris27292729: Just for your info,lived there,and in my opinion, there was NO excuses,for the imposition of the apartheid system,for the benefits of the """Whites Only""".
The system was based on an interpretation of the Bible....and it was a system of separate cultural development...not hate based but more recognizing the differences of opinion...by all races - a supercharged version of natural African tribalism....still a popular concept today with all the different white (and black) groups/parties...look at American jails ?
im not afraid to debate with you Chris i know more about this silly old country than most from my studies and the research i do and trust me despite all the black on white issues theres a lot more behind the scenes that created all the dramam that every day people will not look at
im not afraid to debate with you Chris i know more about this silly old country than most from my studies and the research i do and trust me despite all the black on white issues theres a lot more behind the scenes that created all the dramam that every day people will not look at
chris27292729: The thread is not about racisim all over the world.You avoid answering the stump of approval on apartheid, by the white parliament.-Don't have to visit,my son on his recent visit there,he wasn't very enthusiastic with the current apartheid in reverse.-
read my post...i said you're right, partly.
yes well, there were wrongs to be righted...but that's how it is now...reversed. very very sad.
StormMc: that is a really shallow point of view you are sitting with
Are you refuting it,as a lie????? I don't find it"shallow point of view"that your apartheid system was institutionalized,on the contrary i find it inhumane.-
chris27292729: Are you refuting it,as a lie????? I don't find it"shallow point of view"that your apartheid system was institutionalized,on the contrary i find it inhumane.-
you're not reading! nobody's said it was a lie, just that there was a lot more going on than you realise. good lord!
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
StormMc: Somethings thats been on my mind that could do with some answering.
We hear about SA all the time, whether it's rugby, cricket, Nelson Mandela, or all of the South Africans that have moved here, oh and the Boer Wars, we were even in on that one, er I mean two...lol
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
chris27292729: The thread is not about racisim all over the world.You avoid answering the stump of approval on apartheid, by the white parliament.-Don't have to visit,my son on his recent visit there,he wasn't very enthusiastic with the current apartheid in reverse.-
justjim63: We hear about SA all the time, whether it's rugby, cricket, Nelson Mandela, or all of the South Africans that have moved here, oh and the Boer Wars, we were even in on that one, er I mean two...lol
lol well you should know about the rugby we've kinda been beating you guys a lot but we understand you guys are having a bit of a rough patch lol
DazzleDaze: The system was based on an interpretation of the Bible....and it was a system of separate cultural development...not hate based but more recognizing the differences of opinion...by all races - a supercharged version of natural African tribalism....still a popular concept today with all the different white (and black) groups/parties...look at American jails ?
And in Cape town the parliament made the Apartheid laws on the interpretation of the Bible!!!! In other words all the MP's voting to go straight to hell.-Oh, great.you sound like Vorster,Botha, and de Clerck,singing the same tune.-
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
StormMc: lol well you should know about the rugby we've kinda been beating you guys a lot but we understand you guys are having a bit of a rough patch lol
Yeah, rub it in, We can't seem to win a thing lately, Although our womens cricket team are world beaters.
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
chris27292729: And you run to Ireland????
To be sure.....the € is worth R10+ ....Eire is the 2nd best country in the world to live in (my opinion)....and when I've made my €...I'll be spending 6 mths in SA sun and 6mths in Irish sun....so I'll be running back & forth...while you Greeks are still trying to fix the economic mess you caused Europe (albeit with help from the Paddy fellas)....anyway I guess you have no concept of the old SA or the new 'Rainbow nation' stuck in Greece...reverse apartheid rules mon!
chris27292729: And in Cape town the parliament made the Apartheid laws on the interpretation of the Bible!!!! In other words all the MP's voting to go straight to hell.-Oh, great.you sound like Vorster,Botha, and de Clerck,singing the same tune.-
De Klerk, actually. Careful about casting stones there, chris
DazzleDaze: To be sure.....the € is worth R10+ ....Eire is the 2nd best country in the world to live in (my opinion)....and when I've made my €...I'll be spending 6 mths in SA sun and 6mths in Irish sun....so I'll be running back & forth...while you Greeks are still trying to fix the economic mess you caused Europe (albeit with help from the Paddy fellas)....anyway I guess you have no concept of the old SA or the new 'Rainbow nation' stuck in Greece...reverse apartheid rules mon!
Oct 1, 2013 4:50 PM CST Is South Africa even heard of in foriegn countries?
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 posts
chris27292729: Your sermon to someone else,as far understanding is concern.-Lived there for few decades. Your black and white was to have the indigenous people,as second class citizens????
Not to be rude Chris, but you lived here during apartheid for a few decades as a white man benefiting from the system, did you not? Or were you active in trying to change the system? It was a brutal unjust system that dehumanised the oppressed and oppressors alike. Some of us, black and white, fought to bring an end to it.
I, and many others, were teargassed, beaten, shot and detained....but we stayed and saw it through.
South Africa IS one of the most beautiful countries in the world, and I have travelled extensively....it has its problems but its people are courageous, strong and forgiving.
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