LadyDiz: Not to be rude Chris, but you lived here during apartheid for a few decades as a white man benefiting from the system, did you not? Or were you active in trying to change the system? It was a brutal unjust system that dehumanised the oppressed and oppressors alike. Some of us, black and white, fought to bring an end to it.
I, and many others, were teargassed, beaten, shot and detained....but we stayed and saw it through.
South Africa IS one of the most beautiful countries in the world, and I have travelled extensively....it has its problems but its people are courageous, strong and forgiving.
StormMc: i love how you and dazzzle are both proudly south african you guys bring me joy
think its one those places the chinese are pulling the strings in once upon a time they used to be good at rugby, kiwi's taught them how to play, guess that was yesteryear
robplum: think its one those places the chinese are pulling the strings in once upon a time they used to be good at rugby, kiwi's taught them how to play, guess that was yesteryear
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
chris27292729: And in Cape town the parliament made the Apartheid laws on the interpretation of the Bible!!!! In other words all the MP's voting to go straight to hell.-Oh, great.you sound like Vorster,Botha, and de Clerck,singing the same tune.-
I'm not justifying it just rationalizing the concept....and what about the New Dawn party in your land? Not exactly welcoming to non nationals are they? who are mostly from North Africa or Eastern Europe...and actually the laws are enacted from Pretoria....Govt bureaucracy runs from there - CT house our parliament, where legislation is passed.....Bloemfontein is the Judicial capital...quite complex as others here have explained....All I can say is go visit...explore..see the REAL SA....it's diversity, beauty,Ubuntu spirit....and the crime grime and poverty - notice that most people there are happy with life(always singing)and their place in the world - 'N BOER MAAK 'N PLAN -We are a tough bunch...but it's Africa not pampered Europe... then you are entitled to a fair say in your belief and opinion - until then get back on the ouzo....
..I,d be very careful what you say about S/A.....you don't mess with them...... .....once the tribes gather....ZULU,S....they can be really nasty....saw the film.......long spears/ wooden clubs.....and war songs.....nooooooo........be nice........
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
ali110: What's national language of SA?
Funigolo.....that's a universal 'national' language used in mines, farms, factories ect...a mixture of all the languages so all are 'singing off the same hymn sheet'
DazzleDaze: I'm not justifying it just rationalizing the concept....and what about the New Dawn party in your land? Not exactly welcoming to non nationals are they? who are mostly from North Africa or Eastern Europe...and actually the laws are enacted from Pretoria....Govt bureaucracy runs from there - CT house our parliament, where legislation is passed.....Bloemfontein is the Judicial capital...quite complex as others here have explained....All I can say is go visit...explore..see the REAL SA....it's diversity, beauty,Ubuntu spirit....and the crime grime and poverty - notice that most people there are happy with life(always singing)and their place in the world - 'N BOER MAAK 'N PLAN -We are a tough bunch...but it's Africa not pampered Europe... then you are entitled to a fair say in your belief and opinion - until then get back on the ouzo....
damn, i wish i were so eloquent. well said, dazzle. spot on.
DazzleDaze: To be sure.....the € is worth R10+ ....Eire is the 2nd best country in the world to live in (my opinion)....and when I've made my €...I'll be spending 6 mths in SA sun and 6mths in Irish sun....so I'll be running back & forth...while you Greeks are still trying to fix the economic mess you caused Europe (albeit with help from the Paddy fellas)....anyway I guess you have no concept of the old SA or the new 'Rainbow nation' stuck in Greece...reverse apartheid rules mon!
chris27292729: Then is time to prepare your exit.And how the whites took the land from the blacks,peacefully??? Meaning the fate of the white Rhodesians,this kind od civil war???,losing land,while this land in the past belonged to blacks.-
so in other words africa is for the blacks and them alone? thn i would say its fair for black people to vacate from all other countries in which they reside and move back to africa
all i can say to you is tune in to this weekends match il be there live Ellis park here i come if you watch the game a promise to do something ridiculous to get on camera
Maus19: That's pretty much all I can say about SA, a country I know very little of. I thought that sentence made clear I didn't.
right so. perhaps you should go there before you cast judgement. I've lived in Ireland for 6 years and only now would I presume do so about this quaint little island.
StormMc: all i can say to you is tune in to this weekends match il be there live Ellis park here i come if you watch the game a promise to do something ridiculous to get on camera
DazzleDazea river bog hill road, Meath Ireland264 posts
StormMc: so in other words africa is for the blacks and them alone? thn i would say its fair for black people to vacate from all other countries in which they reside and move back to africa
Haai broer...that's fair play....but I'm as much African (5 generations of african bloodline)as much as my darker brethren - colour is only skin deep - all blood runs red.... seems like this chris fella would make a good PAC candidate....and strictly speaking he's not a Caucasian is he?
Oct 1, 2013 5:12 PM CST Is South Africa even heard of in foriegn countries?
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 Posts
LadyDizJohannesburg, Gauteng South Africa1,320 posts
StormMc: so in other words africa is for the blacks and them alone? thn i would say its fair for black people to vacate from all other countries in which they reside and move back to africa
South Africans are Africans irrespective of their colour. And we have much to be proud of - apart from the braai, biltong and rugby already mentioned we also have the most progressive Constitution in the world in which a Bill of Rights guarantees everyone extensive human rights. Our judicial system was recently rated in the top 20 in the world (WTI Survey), our banking institutions and laws is ranked no. 1 in the world. We are trying to move forward from our past.
justjim63port macquarie, New South Wales Australia2,592 posts
StormMc: so in other words africa is for the blacks and them alone? thn i would say its fair for black people to vacate from all other countries in which they reside and move back to africa
Chris I'm a white Australian, does that mean I should vacate the country so that he Aboriginals can have it back? Where would I go? Maybe since I have Irish ancestory I could move back there? Somehow I don't think they'd have Me.
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i love how you and dazzzle are both proudly south african you guys bring me joy