Should Styrofoam be banned? ( Archived) (33)

Nov 25, 2013 6:29 PM CSTShould Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio, USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts

Should Styrofoam be banned?(Vote Below)

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Yes
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44%
No
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56%
Total Votes
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First he banned smoking in bars and restaurants, then trans-fats, then large sugary drinks and now New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has his eyes set on Styrofoam.


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Nov 25, 2013 6:36 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
SoonerGal
SoonerGalSoonerGalPonca City, Oklahoma USA21 Threads 10 Polls 2,363 Posts
I thank God everyday that I live in Oklahoma cartwheel would think that the plastic bottle and diapers would be more of a problem than Styrofoam dunno
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Nov 25, 2013 6:36 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
galrads: First he banned smoking in bars and restaurants, then trans-fats, then large sugary drinks and now New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has his eyes set on Styrofoam.
hell no , mix with petrol,add a bit of thermite and deliver to the Ayatollah via a F16 . Help him get closer to his god
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Nov 25, 2013 6:50 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
epirb: hell no , mix with petrol,add a bit of thermite and deliver to the Ayatollah via a F16 . Help him get closer to his god


Oh, does that mean we could then once again import pistachio nuts here from Iran? Haven't seen them here in over 30 years. My favorite tree nut.

Hey epirb wave
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Nov 25, 2013 6:52 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
SoonerGal: I thank God everyday that I live in Oklahoma would think that the plastic bottle and diapers would be more of a problem than Styrofoam
. I definitely agree!
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Nov 25, 2013 6:54 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
jac379
jac379jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK25 Threads 3 Polls 12,293 Posts
And the problem with ceasing the use of that ecological little time bomb styrofoam is...?
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Nov 25, 2013 7:24 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
jac379: And the problem with ceasing the use of that ecological little time bomb styrofoam is...?


Well, there are many arguments for and against using these little "time bombs".

- Most business will argue that it saves them money, especially in food production and service.
- Engineers love it's stabilizing factors maintaining temperature.
- Morons and Monkeys love playing with it.
Me: being a lifelong environmental scientist I lean to believing we are better off without it and agree that "polystyrene is harmful to public health, requires the use of cancerous chemicals in its manufacture, releases toxic byproducts during incineration, and is hard to recycle."
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Nov 25, 2013 7:31 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
Got this info from a news story that Dart Container Corp ran by billionaire Kenneth Dart has spent $120,000 lobbying against the proposed ban.

Dart paid former Councilman Ken Fisher of Cozen O'Conner Public strategies $70,000 to lobby City Hall and the City Council on "Legislation Banning Polystrene."
It's also paid Mercury Public Affairs $50,000.


I wonder if that could be why? hmmdunno
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Nov 25, 2013 7:35 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
happy369
happy369happy369Onehorsetown, Indonesia979 Posts
galrads: First he banned smoking in bars and restaurants, then trans-fats, then large sugary drinks and now New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg has his eyes set on Styrofoam.
I voted yes,if it can be replaced by something more echo friendly.
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Nov 25, 2013 7:40 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Ccincy: Got this info from a news story that Dart Container Corp ran by billionaire Kenneth Dart has spent $120,000 lobbying against the proposed ban.

Dart paid former Councilman Ken Fisher of Cozen O'Conner Public strategies $70,000 to lobby City Hall and the City Council on "Legislation Banning Polystrene."
It's also paid Mercury Public Affairs $50,000.I wonder if that could be why? hmm

I'm surprised more money hasn't been spent to challenge the banning initiative.

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Nov 25, 2013 7:45 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
happy369: I voted yes,if it can be replaced by something more echo friendly.


Mushrooms may be a partial answer, happy....



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Nov 25, 2013 8:20 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
montemonte
montemontemontemonteunknown, New Jersey USA114 Threads 4 Polls 5,631 Posts
Styrofoam doesn't break down in landfills

It's even difficult to tear it apart with your hands

All those lunch containers and coffee cups will stay in the dump almost forever doh


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Nov 25, 2013 8:22 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
happy369
happy369happy369Onehorsetown, Indonesia979 Posts
thought more along the lines of bubble wrap its plastic and recyclable
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Nov 25, 2013 8:28 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
I think Bloomfield should be banned.
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Nov 25, 2013 8:35 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
RayfromUSA: I think Bloomfield should be banned.
wouldn't matter, Ray. He's about to leave office and his groomed successor thinks the same way.
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Nov 25, 2013 8:42 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
RayfromUSA
RayfromUSARayfromUSAvienne, Rhone-Alpes France86 Threads 29 Polls 6,611 Posts
galrads: wouldn't matter, Ray. He's about to leave office and his groomed successor thinks the same way.


Are they mayors or czars?
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Nov 26, 2013 6:21 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
RayfromUSA: Are they mayors or czars?
mayors
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Nov 26, 2013 6:42 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
blues
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Nov 26, 2013 8:03 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
Obstinance_Works
Obstinance_WorksObstinance_WorksManchester, Greater Manchester, England UK3 Threads 1 Polls 3,514 Posts
Well I think it would be wise to start using paper cups etc instead. But I wouldn't ban styrofoam because we still need it for certain things where there isn't a very good replacement(yet).
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Nov 26, 2013 1:09 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
nmex38
nmex38nmex38alamogordo, New Mexico USA2 Threads 19 Posts
galrads: Oh, does that mean we could then once again import pistachio nuts here from Iran? Haven't seen them here in over 30 years. My favorite tree nut.

Hey epirb
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Nov 26, 2013 1:09 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
nmex38
nmex38nmex38alamogordo, New Mexico USA2 Threads 19 Posts
galrads: Nuts! I some want Fricking Pistachio Nuts , again!
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Nov 26, 2013 1:13 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
nmex38
nmex38nmex38alamogordo, New Mexico USA2 Threads 19 Posts
CHECK OUT THE "PISTACHIO FARM-HEART OF THE DESERT EAGLE RANCH" IN ALAMOGORDO,NM,,LOTS OF FLAVORED NUTS,GOT THERE OWN PISTACHIO TREES!!
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Nov 26, 2013 6:53 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
nmex38: CHECK OUT THE "PISTACHIO FARM-HEART OF THE DESERT EAGLE RANCH" IN ALAMOGORDO,NM,,LOTS OF FLAVORED NUTS,GOT THERE OWN PISTACHIO TREES!!

thanks, I'll check them out after the coming holiday weekend! wave
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Nov 26, 2013 8:06 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
Ccincy
CcincyCcincyCincinnati, Ohio USA77 Threads 20,535 Posts
What I don't understand is why Styrofoam was created in the first place.
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Nov 28, 2013 11:06 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Ccincy: What I don't understand is why Styrofoam was created in the first place.


Well, Styrofoam is about 98% percent air, and:

In 1839, a German Eduard Simon discovered polystyrene. He did not know what he had discovered.

In 1922, Hermann Staudinger published his theories on polymers, stating that natural rubbers were made up of long repetitive chains of monomers that gave rubber its elasticity.

In 1953, Hermann Staudinger won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry for his research. In 1922 he wrote that the materials manufactured by the thermal processing of styrene were similar to rubber.

In 1930, I.G. Farben developed it.

In 1937, the Dow Chemical company introduced polystyrene products to the U.S. market.

Around WWII Ray McIntire accidentally invented foamed polystyrene aka Styrofoam while trying to develop a better insulator.

The Dow Chemical Company introduced Styrofoam products to the United State in 1954.

and so on and so on..... wave
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Nov 28, 2013 11:10 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads: Well, Styrofoam is about 98% percent air, and:

In 1839, a German Eduard Simon discovered polystyrene. He did not know what he had discovered.

In 1922, Hermann Staudinger published his theories on polymers, stating that natural rubbers were made up of long repetitive chains of monomers that gave rubber its elasticity.

In 1953, Hermann Staudinger won the Nobel Prize for Chemistry for his research. In 1922 he wrote that the materials manufactured by the thermal processing of styrene were similar to rubber.

In 1930, I.G. Farben developed it.

In 1937, the Dow Chemical company introduced polystyrene products to the U.S. market.

Around WWII Ray McIntire accidentally invented foamed polystyrene aka Styrofoam while trying to develop a better insulator.

The Dow Chemical Company introduced Styrofoam products to the United State in 1954.

and so on and so on.....

In Electronics it's almost unthinkable to replace polystyrene,unless we go to Mica again,and Guttapercha for Cable-Insulations!grin
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Nov 28, 2013 11:17 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
Conrad73: In Electronics it's almost unthinkable to replace polystyrene,unless we go to Mica again,and Guttapercha for Cable-Insulations!


Oh, that would be a setback for electronics for sure.

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Nov 28, 2013 11:32 AM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads: Oh, that would be a setback for electronics for sure.
grin
Got that right!
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Nov 28, 2013 8:28 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
There's probably a way to chemically alter styrofoam to make it into some other useful material maybe some kind of fuel for transportation of electric generation. I know that in the shipping business styrofoam "peanuts" are used for packing and they are routinely reused over and over again. where I worked I set up a recycling scheme to save them from incoming shipments and they were sent to the shipping dept for packages going back out. Also there is a local store here that does mailing and shipping that's always looking for styrofoam peanuts. If styrofoam is so industructable I think it could be chopped up into marble sized pieces and poured into the walls of new house construction as insulation. Maybe I should start a business doing just that. We've been living in a throw away society for WAY too long. I knew the end was near the first time I saw a Bic lighter.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:44 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ooby_dooby: There's probably a way to chemically alter styrofoam to make it into some other useful material maybe some kind of fuel for transportation of electric generation. I know that in the shipping business styrofoam "peanuts" are used for packing and they are routinely reused over and over again. where I worked I set up a recycling scheme to save them from incoming shipments and they were sent to the shipping dept for packages going back out. Also there is a local store here that does mailing and shipping that's always looking for styrofoam peanuts. If styrofoam is so industructable I think it could be chopped up into marble sized pieces and poured into the walls of new house construction as insulation. Maybe I should start a business doing just that. We've been living in a throw away society for WAY too long. I knew the end was near the first time I saw a Bic lighter.
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Nov 28, 2013 8:46 PM CST Should Styrofoam be banned?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
ooby_dooby: There's probably a way to chemically alter styrofoam to make it into some other useful material maybe some kind of fuel for transportation of electric generation. I know that in the shipping business styrofoam "peanuts" are used for packing and they are routinely reused over and over again. where I worked I set up a recycling scheme to save them from incoming shipments and they were sent to the shipping dept for packages going back out. Also there is a local store here that does mailing and shipping that's always looking for styrofoam peanuts. If styrofoam is so industructable I think it could be chopped up into marble sized pieces and poured into the walls of new house construction as insulation. Maybe I should start a business doing just that. We've been living in a throw away society for WAY too long. I knew the end was near the first time I saw a Bic lighter.


I've always wondered why more recycling of styrofoam hasn't happened before now and used to build more of these ugly homes:
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