Questions on Irish travelers.Let your voice be heard !! (526)

2girlsnocup: Your profile clearly states you're not working. You can't blame the pub landlords or shop owners. You can only blame TRAVELLERS. The few have created the problem that the masses have to suffer for. Maybe try and see if you can show the shopkeepers and the like, that not all travellers will steal or get too drunk and fight anyone that looks at them wrong.

It's in the same way that the local newsagents has a sign in the door stating that schoolchildren are not allowed in without an adult. Do the rest of the schoolchildren moan about being bunched in with a few thieves? No, they go and either get their sweets elsewhere, or ask someone to go in for them.

Kaybee50: Like Kennn, I had never heard the term Traveller or knew anything about them before these threads. To the best of my knowledge, I haven't met any here in Missouri or Illinois. When I lived in Germany, I assumed the caravans I saw off in the distant fields were Roma gypsies.

RoseaBellBlues: ........
look i am not lining!!!!!!

look on my profile and you will see when i up loaded
my page. i just didn't change the infor on my profile and if i had to know people were going to get into my business,i wouldn't have put up any infor at all!! look this up address, Comfort keepers in Ardee co.loght Ireland you will see where i work now. my name is Laura Gavin, you can ask them do i work there if you dont believe me. ask form my boss Roseanna.

rizlared: Now you really are stretching the truth, the picture you show is a static caravan on a private holiday camping site in Scotland.

Why would a TRAVELLER live in a static van when the w beinhole idea isg able to move around the country looking for seasonal work?

MADDOG69: Ya could have picked more flattering examples of Traveller women than them.

Anyway, some of them have strong brows. Sets them apart. And before they're married (and sometimes after) they dress rather tacky, in my opinion. They overdo the makeup and hair dye. You'll get that in Northern Irish women a lot, as well. Fake tan, half inch of foundation, drawn in Eyebrows, and two strips of carpet for eyelashes. etc etc

Here's a better image.
Here's a more typical image...
And the younger varities...

MADDOG69: Now you're showing ignorance.

Many do live in those in Halting Sites.

MADDOG69: Doesn't matter. That's an example of what they look like.

Kaybee50: So it's a dialect then?
And what type of behaviours would identify a Traveler from for example, Me, if the two of us were standing next to each other in a shop?
The chests....a lot of us are ample in chest.

RoseaBellBlues: there was a lady on here that didn't know what travelers were or what they lived in so i got a photo on the internet to show her and to give her a little idea what they live in...what have i done wrong by doing that?????????????????????????????????????????

0o live in them. out off 40.000 there is only 1000 on the road and yes we are met to travel but the law will not let yous travel

RoseaBellBlues: ..........lady he cant answer hem self.

the only way you can tell is when i talk, my voice is
quite deep that's how you could tell im the traveler and your not by your voice thats the only behavior....................

RoseaBellBlues: Then in 1979 a Traveller woman, Roselle McDadd took Dublin County Council to court of for evicting her 22 times from one roadside camp to another in the previous 12 months. She got a high court ruling later upheld by the Supreme court that a local area could not evict travellers from its land without providing a reasonable alternative. This had the effect of stopping constant evictions which were a cause of enormous hardship.

However Local Areas soon found ways of forcing families out of camps by dumping clay and rubbish all around them and by generally making life so unpleasant for them that they were forced to move.

RoseaBellBlues: i was tolled on here if you cant get into shops,pubs and so on why dont yous builted your own???

The first travellers school was built in Cherry Orchard by the travellers there. It lasted only a matter of weeks before being bulldozed by the corporation. A series of protest meetings and marches were held throughout the country by the Irish travellers community culminating in a major convention at Ballinasloe fair in 1962 at which Lawerence Ward chaired the proceedings. A committee was elected and over the following year evictions were resisted and demands for decent facilities and civil rights were put forward.

This campaign attracted considerable radio publicity and the government became very anxious to smash the movement which was becoming more militant and well organised then they had thought travellers were capable of. Interestingly attempts were made early on to establish links with the trade union movement. There is a record of an appeal by Gloray Conners to members of IMETU who were about to carry out an eviction if Ballyfermot to consider their common interests and to refuse to evict

In 1963 Grattan Puxen was arrested and charged with having explosives. It was later proved that these explosives had been planted on him by the Gardai. He was released on bail and given the choice of leaving the country r serving a long jail sentence. He left in late 1963. Almost all of the activists of the Irish traveller community left with him and went on to form the Gypsy Council in England. The names of Irish travellers can be seen in the leadership of the Gypsy Council over the next decade until it became victim to internal feuding.