Questions on Irish travelers.Let your voice be heard !! (526)
2girlsnocup: Here's an illegal site that a local authority is having to spend "£2 million on to make it a legal site.
The 'travellers' had been there for two years, and seemed content as they'd not moved on, so why should the money be spent?
Especially when there are plenty of sites in the UK as of 2011,
it lovely?
i have look at the sins. whats the story be hide them??The 'travellers' had been there for two years, and seemed content as they'd not moved on, so why should the money be spent?
Especially when there are plenty of sites in the UK as of 2011,
it lovely?
so your telling me they didn't buy any of that land ?
so your telling me they didn't buy any of that land ?
There is 40% more side needed for travelers to live in.
They are not a lout to live on the side off the road and the council will not build any sides for travelers and gypsy. travelers buy there own land that they could build SOMEhouses on. The ones that did NOT break the law was put off there own land and had there homes broken up on them.
no settle people wants gypsy to live beside them there for they are ran out off there houses.
my family and i was ran out off 3 houses.our house was put on fire twice.
SO tell me where can traverses live that is safe with running water,B.S.B and can put there kids to school.
There is now over 80 family's form Dale farm with no where to live. whats right about that?
They are not a lout to live on the side off the road and the council will not build any sides for travelers and gypsy. travelers buy there own land that they could build SOMEhouses on. The ones that did NOT break the law was put off there own land and had there homes broken up on them.
no settle people wants gypsy to live beside them there for they are ran out off there houses.
my family and i was ran out off 3 houses.our house was put on fire twice.
SO tell me where can traverses live that is safe with running water,B.S.B and can put there kids to school.
There is now over 80 family's form Dale farm with no where to live. whats right about that?
green belt land my eye !! try any other one !!
The side was a scrap yard and they was already hard ground there which the council put there them self's. There was never any green trees or grass there before travelers came to live on the land.
The man that sold dale farm to the travelers had build
a house on the land him self..............don't believe me on any off this?? OK then here look at this link and you will see the true story!!
http://youtu.be/2QEZFvU2eVg
The side was a scrap yard and they was already hard ground there which the council put there them self's. There was never any green trees or grass there before travelers came to live on the land.
The man that sold dale farm to the travelers had build
a house on the land him self..............don't believe me on any off this?? OK then here look at this link and you will see the true story!!
http://youtu.be/2QEZFvU2eVg
RoseaBellBlues: sold dale farm to the travelers
So its the travellers that make the icecream now?
sirLarryIII: So its the travellers that make the icecream now?
its not ice cream larry, i told you that when we had dinner last night!
raphael119: its not ice cream larry, i told you that when we had dinner last night!
Forgive me Raph,memory is a bit hazy from last night
more true infor on Dale fame. the travelers moved on Dale form in 2001. There was hard ground lad down in the 1969 so how is it green belt land? and it was a scrip yard before travelers came. with no trees or even a bit off grass.........have a look at this video that's on youtube.it will only take up six mints off your time.
http://youtu.be/AK7MjF9_7S0
http://youtu.be/AK7MjF9_7S0
RoseaBellBlues: Dale fame
Sounds like a celebrity hairdresser
Sorry Rosea,know you spelling probs just like meself but couldnt resist
furryflaps: I have to disagree with you here..Ive lived in tallaght last 30 years and where i am theres plenty of settled travellers..My neighbours are travellers and have been here 20 years now.Off hand i can think of at least 20 settled traveller families living in our estate alone.They dont get treated any different to us.Their kids go to same school as all ours.A lot of them drink in our local and have done for years.Maybe years ago it was like that here but not now.At same time there was a field across from us and every so often we wake up to find it full of caravans.Thats when there would be trouble.Their younger ones were robbing clothes off washing line , kids toys out of gardens and the place was filthy with dirt they left lying around.And as soon as police and council moved them on ,which often took weeks ,it was back to normal.Theres good and bad in every race but your starting to play the victim a bit much now.Tell the truth or just drop it.
im only giving people the history and the facts on what happen 100s off years go and still is happening to date. travelers are the highest to be discriminated by in Ireland. that's a TACT!! so love before you go tell people im lying look the history and the facts and you will see who is lying!!
raphael119: its not ice cream larry, i told you that when we had dinner last night!
FACTS - of course, it is only from the University of Limerick website.
Irish Travellers are an indigenous minority or ethnic group who make up less than 1% of the population in Ireland. They number approximately 28,000 people in the Republic of Ireland and 1500 in Northern Ireland. There are also large Irish Traveller communities in Britain and North America. Their family structure, nomadism, employment patterns and language are all distinctive and have ensured their survival as a minority group on the margins of Irish mainstream society for generations. There is little information or research available on the question of Traveller origins and a range of theories have been put forward by scholars including the possibility that they are the descendants of travelling bards who were joined by families who “took to the road” because of eviction, war, famine and the social upheaval that was a consequence of colonisation.
Travellers are synonymous with self-employment, occupational flexibility and nomadism. In the nineteenth century tinsmithing was a trade that was particularly associated with Travellers. This gave rise to the sobriquet “tinker” which is now often used only in a derogatory sense. Tinsmithing was only one trade that was synonomous with Travellers however. They are also horse-dealers and recyclers and are synonymous today with activities such as market trading, scrap collection, tarmacking, the resale of secondhand goods, tree-topping and landscaping.
Historically, Travellers have been largely invisible among the Irish poor but their language, known as Cant or Gammon, shows evidence of bardic influences, indicating that some of their ancestors may have belonged to bardic families that played in a central role in Gaelic culture prior to the imposition of colonisation. The fact that Travellers is how the group refers to themselves is indicative of the importance of travelling or nomadism in Traveller culture.
Irish Travellers are an indigenous minority or ethnic group who make up less than 1% of the population in Ireland. They number approximately 28,000 people in the Republic of Ireland and 1500 in Northern Ireland. There are also large Irish Traveller communities in Britain and North America. Their family structure, nomadism, employment patterns and language are all distinctive and have ensured their survival as a minority group on the margins of Irish mainstream society for generations. There is little information or research available on the question of Traveller origins and a range of theories have been put forward by scholars including the possibility that they are the descendants of travelling bards who were joined by families who “took to the road” because of eviction, war, famine and the social upheaval that was a consequence of colonisation.
Travellers are synonymous with self-employment, occupational flexibility and nomadism. In the nineteenth century tinsmithing was a trade that was particularly associated with Travellers. This gave rise to the sobriquet “tinker” which is now often used only in a derogatory sense. Tinsmithing was only one trade that was synonomous with Travellers however. They are also horse-dealers and recyclers and are synonymous today with activities such as market trading, scrap collection, tarmacking, the resale of secondhand goods, tree-topping and landscaping.
Historically, Travellers have been largely invisible among the Irish poor but their language, known as Cant or Gammon, shows evidence of bardic influences, indicating that some of their ancestors may have belonged to bardic families that played in a central role in Gaelic culture prior to the imposition of colonisation. The fact that Travellers is how the group refers to themselves is indicative of the importance of travelling or nomadism in Traveller culture.
RoseaBellBlues: also there is gay men and women with the travelers community but they have to hide it, as it is not wanted in the community.
So like do the gay men dress in drag and the lesbians in men clothes in order to go unnoticed within the traveller community?
sirLarryIII: So like do the gay men dress in drag and the lesbians in men clothes in order to go unnoticed within the traveller community?
NO NO...........i think you know what im talking about. its the same in the settle community.the gay people can tell any one not even your mother and father............
sirLarryIII: So like do the gay men dress in drag and the lesbians in men clothes in order to go unnoticed within the traveller community?
NO NO...........i think you know what im talking about. its the same in the settle community.the gay people can tell any one not even your mother and father............
sirLarryIII: Sounds like a celebrity hairdresser
Sorry Rosea,know you spelling probs just like meself but couldnt resist
DALE FARM is the name off the land that the travelers bought and lived on before the council removed them from there own land as the council said it was GREEN belt land but it was NOT!! it was brown field land. look on page 18 and 19 you will see the full story there.Sorry Rosea,know you spelling probs just like meself but couldnt resist
RoseaBellBlues: NO NO...........i think you know what im talking about. its the same in the settle community.the gay people can tell any one not even your
mother and father............
mother and father............
Awh come on.If a traveller woman has a son who's as gay as christmas,mincing about and speaking with a campy feminine voice what can she possibly believe about him other than the fact he is gay.
Will she tell fibs to herself like maybe he has a bad head cold with a sore throat and its lasting a few years longer than she expected.
RoseaBellBlues: DALE FARM is the name off the land that the travelers bought and lived on before the council removed them from there own land as the council said it was GREEN belt land but it was NOT!! it was brown field land. look on page 20 you will see the full story there.
RoseaBellBlues: DALE FAME is the name off the land that the GAY travelers bought and lived on before the council removed them from there own land as the council said it was GREEN belt land but it was NOT!! it was brown camp land. look on page 18 and 19 you will see the full story there.
That makes more sense now
sirLarryIII: Awh come on.If a traveller woman has a son who's as gay as christmas,mincing about and speaking with a campy feminine voice what can she possibly believe about him other than the fact he is gay.
Will she tell fibs to herself like maybe he has a bad head cold with a sore throat and its lasting a few years longer than she expected.
Will she tell fibs to herself like maybe he has a bad head cold with a sore throat and its lasting a few years longer than she expected.
open your mind !! not all gay people acct like..........
JeanKimberley: FACTS - of course, it is only from the University of Limerick website.
Irish Travellers are an indigenous minority or ethnic group who make up less than 1% of the population in Ireland. They number approximately 28,000 people in the Republic of Ireland and 1500 in Northern Ireland. There are also large Irish Traveller communities in Britain and North America. Their family structure, nomadism, employment patterns and language are all distinctive and have ensured their survival as a minority group on the margins of Irish mainstream society for generations. There is little information or research available on the question of Traveller origins and a range of theories have been put forward by scholars including the possibility that they are the descendants of travelling bards who were joined by families who “took to the road” because of eviction, war, famine and the social upheaval that was a consequence of colonisation.
Travellers are synonymous with self-employment, occupational flexibility and nomadism. In the nineteenth century tinsmithing was a trade that was particularly associated with Travellers. This gave rise to the sobriquet “tinker” which is now often used only in a derogatory sense. Tinsmithing was only one trade that was synonomous with Travellers however. They are also horse-dealers and recyclers and are synonymous today with activities such as market trading, scrap collection, tarmacking, the resale of secondhand goods, tree-topping and landscaping.
Historically, Travellers have been largely invisible among the Irish poor but their language, known as Cant or Gammon, shows evidence of bardic influences, indicating that some of their ancestors may have belonged to bardic families that played in a central role in Gaelic culture prior to the imposition of colonisation. The fact that Travellers is how the group refers to themselves is indicative of the importance of travelling or nomadism in Traveller culture.
Irish Travellers are an indigenous minority or ethnic group who make up less than 1% of the population in Ireland. They number approximately 28,000 people in the Republic of Ireland and 1500 in Northern Ireland. There are also large Irish Traveller communities in Britain and North America. Their family structure, nomadism, employment patterns and language are all distinctive and have ensured their survival as a minority group on the margins of Irish mainstream society for generations. There is little information or research available on the question of Traveller origins and a range of theories have been put forward by scholars including the possibility that they are the descendants of travelling bards who were joined by families who “took to the road” because of eviction, war, famine and the social upheaval that was a consequence of colonisation.
Travellers are synonymous with self-employment, occupational flexibility and nomadism. In the nineteenth century tinsmithing was a trade that was particularly associated with Travellers. This gave rise to the sobriquet “tinker” which is now often used only in a derogatory sense. Tinsmithing was only one trade that was synonomous with Travellers however. They are also horse-dealers and recyclers and are synonymous today with activities such as market trading, scrap collection, tarmacking, the resale of secondhand goods, tree-topping and landscaping.
Historically, Travellers have been largely invisible among the Irish poor but their language, known as Cant or Gammon, shows evidence of bardic influences, indicating that some of their ancestors may have belonged to bardic families that played in a central role in Gaelic culture prior to the imposition of colonisation. The fact that Travellers is how the group refers to themselves is indicative of the importance of travelling or nomadism in Traveller culture.
Thats the way it used to be, most of them are in houses now supplied by the Co Council.
The ones that still go around in caravans ofton park in private land or public parks and leave rubbish and a mess behind them which the councils have to clean up at a cost to the taxpayer.
Contrary to what the OP would have people who don't know the full fact believe travellers are well looked after here, but they don't see the point in staying in education and the girls ofton get married way too early, between 16 and 18 and are not encouraged to go to collage and build a career for themselves.
make that change with in yourself today!! NO one is profited remember!
less off this and open your mind and try understand others for a better and more peaceful world for us all.
Do all priest do bad things to chided?
Is all the Irish big drinkers?
Is all off Africa poor and have kids that die all the time?
Do black people take all your jobs?
Is all Muslims boomers?
Do all the English hat the Irish people ??
Is all Americans fat and own big houses?
Do all the romaines rob stuff??
Do all travelers break the law?
just because on see it on the T.V news,papers and people say it don't make it true!! its NO to all off the above.do
DON'T paint every one with the same brush !!![/color]
less off this and open your mind and try understand others for a better and more peaceful world for us all.
Do all priest do bad things to chided?
Is all the Irish big drinkers?
Is all off Africa poor and have kids that die all the time?
Do black people take all your jobs?
Is all Muslims boomers?
Do all the English hat the Irish people ??
Is all Americans fat and own big houses?
Do all the romaines rob stuff??
Do all travelers break the law?
just because on see it on the T.V news,papers and people say it don't make it true!! its NO to all off the above.do
DON'T paint every one with the same brush !!![/color]
RoseaBellBlues: make that change with in yourself today!! NO one is profited remember!
less off this and open your mind and try understand others for a better and more peaceful world for us all.
Do all priest do bad things to chided?
Is all the Irish big drinkers?
Is all off Africa poor and have kids that die all the time?
Do black people take all your jobs?
Is all Muslims boomers?
Do all the English hat the Irish people ??
Is all Americans fat and own big houses?
Do all the romaines rob stuff??
Do all travelers break the law?
just because on see it on the T.V news,papers and people say it don't make it true!! its NO to all off the above.do
DON'T paint every one with the same brush !!!
less off this and open your mind and try understand others for a better and more peaceful world for us all.
Do all priest do bad things to chided?
Is all the Irish big drinkers?
Is all off Africa poor and have kids that die all the time?
Do black people take all your jobs?
Is all Muslims boomers?
Do all the English hat the Irish people ??
Is all Americans fat and own big houses?
Do all the romaines rob stuff??
Do all travelers break the law?
just because on see it on the T.V news,papers and people say it don't make it true!! its NO to all off the above.do
DON'T paint every one with the same brush !!!
There is no smoke without fire, as I said before, if Irish travellers wish to live as they did in the 19th century, they cannot complain if they are treated by 19th century laws and opinions.
Its your choice, live with it or change your life style to those of the 21st century!!
rizlared: There is no smoke without fire, as I said before, if Irish travellers wish to live as they did in the 19th century, they cannot complain if they are treated by 19th century laws and opinions.
Its your choice, live with it or change your life style to those of the 21st century!!
Its your choice, live with it or change your life style to those of the 21st century!!
look here i am living in a house and im working but i sill cant get into pubs or clubs.lord i cant even do my weekly shopping......please tell me how is that my choice??
RoseaBellBlues: im only giving people the history and the facts on what happen 100s off years go and still is happening to date. travelers are the highest to be discriminated by in Ireland. that's a TACT!! so love before you go tell people im lying look the history and the facts and you will see who is lying!!
Your giving people facts about history.Things that happened years and years ago and saying its still happening today and im telling you most of its not happening.Where i live settled travellers live alongside settled people.They go to the same school and have the same education as the rest of us.If they leave school early thats their choice.. Nobody makes them..
RoseaBellBlues: look here i am living in a house and im working but i sill cant get into pubs or clubs.lord i cant even do my weekly shopping......please tell me how is that my choice??
What's stopping you doing your weekly shopping?
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The 'travellers' had been there for two years, and seemed content as they'd not moved on, so why should the money be spent?
Especially when there are plenty of sites in the UK as of 2011,
Phew.. that looks like a shocking way to live... reminds me of going camping in the school holidays and having rain... and after a day of that... packing up and going home..
I guess that respectfully, I just don't understand how anyone could choose that for a life... sorry.