jac379: I wonder how many young men ask young women for proof of age. Some 14 year olds can very convincingly pass off as 18, well past the 16 years old age of consent here.
Can you imagine the consequences for a 22 year old man if parents were to prosecute, even if their daughter lied about her age? Perhaps young women below the age of consent need to be educated about the consequences of their actions and their responsibilities, too.
Abbeylikesdating: Wait all the ladies here weren't you once really young and you felt it wasn't fair as you couldn't go out with him or do stuffs with because he was older?..just saying...
Yes I did feel that way. But with age comes wisdom and I understand now why my parents made the decisions and rules that they did. I didn't understand it then, as I was looking at it through child's eyes.
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Abbeylikesdating: Wait all the ladies here weren't you once really young and you felt it wasn't fair as you couldn't go out with him or do stuffs with because he was older?..just saying...
Yes, once I was really young and once I had a relationship with someone 10 years older than me.
Kaybee50: I think that you won't even be asking this question when you're a parent of young teen.
say i do have kids, id react in a negative way if a chap in his 20 is dating my 15 year old daughter on the other hand if my 15 year old son is dating a lady in her 20 why not?thats my big boy i'd be proud of the fella for using his initiative to tie down a wild older lady hahaha...just saying...
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Abbeylikesdating: say i do have kids, id react in a negative way if a chap in his 20 is dating my 15 year old daughter on the other hand if my 15 year old son is dating a lady in her 20 why not?thats my big boy i'd be proud of the fella for using his initiative to tie down a wild older lady hahaha...just saying...
Abbeylikesdating: say i do have kids, id react in a negative way if a chap in his 20 is dating my 15 year old daughter on the other hand if my 15 year old son is dating a lady in her 20 why not?thats my big boy i'd be proud of the fella for using his initiative to tie down a wild older lady hahaha...just saying...
I would hope that you would not encourage your 15 year son to date a women in her 20s.
A 15 year old is not of the same mental, emotional, or experience level as a 20-25 year old.
Kaybee50: Thank you for your wise parenting advice.
but you know you can only try though... you cant stalk them though it will just be weird and you will only make things worse...e.g. if you refuse to give your daughter money because she's been bad or so, she'll only be after older guys with money i'm just saying..that's why i keep saying parents can only try.... do you get where i am going?....
it instantly rooted from my brain.....but what does he have to lose.. His manhood will only grow bigger...he'll thank me when he's grown up:P ... a daughter wouldn't say wow now i'm 21 and i can fit a whole museum park in there thanks mom or dad :P ...
Abbeylikesdating: but you know you can only try though... you cant stalk them though it will just be weird and you will only make things worse...e.g. if you refuse to give your daughter money because she's been bad or so, she'll only be after older guys with money i'm just saying..that's why i keep saying parents can only try.... do you get where i am going?....
Well, this is where I differ from many.
I wouldn't just give my child money. It doesn't grow on trees.
I would take care of my child's needs and a few things that truly meant so much to them. But when children are old enough to date, they are old enough to take on simple jobs to earn money for fun and things they want. I think this teaches them the value of money, how to make good financial decisions, budgeting, and preparing them to some extent for the real world.
I wouldn't just give my child money. It doesn't grow on trees.
I would take care of my child's needs and a few things that truly meant so much to them. But when children are old enough to date, they are old enough to take on simple jobs to earn money for fun and things they want. I think this teaches them the value of money, how to make good financial decisions, budgeting, and preparing them to some extent for the real world.
Kaybee50: Yes I did feel that way. But with age comes wisdom and I understand now why my parents made the decisions and rules that they did. I didn't understand it then, as I was looking at it through child's eyes.
yes you will not realize it earlier same goes to them.. few questions here: will they realize it earlier?.. yes they introduced the rules, did you or did you not break them??. you learnt from your mistake innit?..
furthermore i am not saying don't try prevent your children from making mistakes just do it wisely and dont hope too much. no one can do it better so give it a shot ;)...
poll hint haha: which would you prefer if your daughter age in the age range 15-17 bring home boyfriend or if she doesnt?
be cauteous because a daughter who doesn't introduce her boyfriend is a hypocrite ;) :P
Abbeylikesdating: yes you will not realize it earlier same goes to them.. few questions here: will they realize it earlier?.. yes they introduced the rules, did you or did you not break them??. you learnt from your mistake innit?..
furthermore i am not saying don't try prevent your children from making mistakes just do it wisely and dont hope too much. no one can do it better so give it a shot ;)...
poll hint haha: which would you prefer if your daughter age in the age range 15-17 bring home boyfriend or if she doesnt?
be cauteous because a daughter who doesn't introduce her boyfriend is a hypocrite ;) :P
Abbey, I've never had children of my own. It's because I was busy helping to raise and educate young teens from all around the world. Thousands of parents entrusted their children into the care of my non-profit organization for 4 weeks up to 1 year. It was the most difficult 20 years of my life, but I learned a balance in thinking and making decisions through a balance of brains, heart, and intuition. These teens were held accountable for their decisions, even when I wasn't always supported by the parents. They signed up for my program to learn and grow and gain experience they could never gleen in an enclosed classroom. I developed the skill of knowing when someone was not being truthful or upfront (even adults tried to pull the wool over my eyes at times). I did know when the teens were not being truthful, when they were hiding issues. It was a not a "one strike you're out system", but they were provided opportunities to correct their poor decisions, with love and support. If the continued making poor choices, they needed to be released from the program and returned home, much to the chagrin of their natural parents. We are accountable for our actions, teens learned this as well in the program. I dealt with eating disorders, psychological issues, drugs, alcohol, lying, you name it. When the teen needed help more help than I could provide, I placed them back into the care of their natural parents. This is my long way of saying, I do understand teens and hormones and pushing boudaries and allowing them to learn and grow from their mistakes. But, not when it places themselves or others in harm.
pedalguy59: What would you like to control about her?
pretty much her entire life unfortunately she's not letting me.. she said she hates when people tell her what to do technically speaking she's involving me in them people...ha
Kaybee50: Abbey, I've never had children of my own. It's because I was busy helping to raise and educate young teens from all around the world. Thousands of parents entrusted their children into the care of my non-profit organization for 4 weeks up to 1 year. It was the most difficult 20 years of my life, but I learned a balance in thinking and making decisions through a balance of brains, heart, and intuition. These teens were held accountable for their decisions, even when I wasn't always supported by the parents. They signed up for my program to learn and grow and gain experience they could never gleen in an enclosed classroom. I developed the skill of knowing when someone was not being truthful or upfront (even adults tried to pull the wool over my eyes at times). I did know when the teens were not being truthful, when they were hiding issues. It was a not a "one strike you're out system", but they were provided opportunities to correct their poor decisions, with love and support. If the continued making poor choices, they needed to be released from the program and returned home, much to the chagrin of their natural parents. We are accountable for our actions, teens learned this as well in the program. I dealt with eating disorders, psychological issues, drugs, alcohol, lying, you name it. When the teen needed help more help than I could provide, I placed them back into the care of their natural parents. This is my long way of saying, I do understand teens and hormones and pushing boundaries and allowing them to learn and grow from their mistakes. But, not when it places themselves or others in harm.
you are indeed effectively using your initiative then lady but can you tell me why on earth would someone devote their life to doing something like this?is it something you have passion for or what?.. so are you telling me none of these kids have reverted to their old ways of doing things?... can we really trust kids of these days, they say one thing and they do the other...
we're slightly diverting from the forum topic here ha...
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
Kaybee50: Abbey, I've never had children of my own. It's because I was busy helping to raise and educate young teens from all around the world. Thousands of parents entrusted their children into the care of my non-profit organization for 4 weeks up to 1 year. It was the most difficult 20 years of my life, but I learned a balance in thinking and making decisions through a balance of brains, heart, and intuition. These teens were held accountable for their decisions, even when I wasn't always supported by the parents. They signed up for my program to learn and grow and gain experience they could never gleen in an enclosed classroom. I developed the skill of knowing when someone was not being truthful or upfront (even adults tried to pull the wool over my eyes at times). I did know when the teens were not being truthful, when they were hiding issues. It was a not a "one strike you're out system", but they were provided opportunities to correct their poor decisions, with love and support. If the continued making poor choices, they needed to be released from the program and returned home, much to the chagrin of their natural parents. We are accountable for our actions, teens learned this as well in the program. I dealt with eating disorders, psychological issues, drugs, alcohol, lying, you name it. When the teen needed help more help than I could provide, I placed them back into the care of their natural parents. This is my long way of saying, I do understand teens and hormones and pushing boudaries and allowing them to learn and grow from their mistakes. But, not when it places themselves or others in harm.
raphael119washington d.c., District of Columbia USA5,181 posts
Kaybee50: Abbey, I've never had children of my own. It's because I was busy helping to raise and educate young teens from all around the world. Thousands of parents entrusted their children into the care of my non-profit organization for 4 weeks up to 1 year. It was the most difficult 20 years of my life, but I learned a balance in thinking and making decisions through a balance of brains, heart, and intuition. These teens were held accountable for their decisions, even when I wasn't always supported by the parents. They signed up for my program to learn and grow and gain experience they could never gleen in an enclosed classroom. I developed the skill of knowing when someone was not being truthful or upfront (even adults tried to pull the wool over my eyes at times). I did know when the teens were not being truthful, when they were hiding issues. It was a not a "one strike you're out system", but they were provided opportunities to correct their poor decisions, with love and support. If the continued making poor choices, they needed to be released from the program and returned home, much to the chagrin of their natural parents. We are accountable for our actions, teens learned this as well in the program. I dealt with eating disorders, psychological issues, drugs, alcohol, lying, you name it. When the teen needed help more help than I could provide, I placed them back into the care of their natural parents. This is my long way of saying, I do understand teens and hormones and pushing boudaries and allowing them to learn and grow from their mistakes. But, not when it places themselves or others in harm.
Abbeylikesdating: pretty much her entire life unfortunately she's not letting me.. she said she hates when people tell her what to do technically speaking she's involving me in them people...ha
Abbeylikesdating: pretty much her entire life unfortunately she's not letting me.. she said she hates when people tell her what to do technically speaking she's involving me in them people...ha
is this in regards to our private conversation? :P.. well as male species we're to take every opportunity we get with a woman before it fades away right? so i did..:P .. do you want to publicly humiliate me now Jac? :P...
jac379pontyclun, South Glamorgan, Wales UK12,293 posts
Abbeylikesdating: is this in regards to our private conversation? :P.. well as male species we're to take every opportunity we get with a woman before it fades away right? so i did..:P .. do you want to publicly humiliate me now Jac? :P...
Yeah, if necessary.
You made some good points and this was an interesting discussion, but I'd like you to leave me alone now, please.
Abbeylikesdating: i really don't know but i cant control her so she shouldnt have any control over my life...ha
Here is some advice, If you think any woman is going to be controlled the way you are intending, you are going to live and die a very lonely miserable life, trust me. Those days are long gone. If you want to be a real man, you walk beside her and not in front of her, live with her, not on top of her, live with her as your best friend, not her dictator
Abbeylikesdating: pretty much her entire life unfortunately she's not letting me.. she said she hates when people tell her what to do technically speaking she's involving me in them people...ha
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Can you imagine the consequences for a 22 year old man if parents were to prosecute, even if their daughter lied about her age? Perhaps young women below the age of consent need to be educated about the consequences of their actions and their responsibilities, too.
you are really intelligent :)