Obstinance_Works: I know that the typical shopping basket of organic food is more damaging, albeit only slightly, to the environment than the basket filled with conventional foods. The idea that buying organic is green is a corporate lie aimed at a certain type of well-intentioned consumer. (Urban farming is another one of these feelgood ideas which turns out to be not very green at all for similar reasons).
I also know that organic tests positive for E.coli at a rate of about 10%, and the conventional tests positive at around 2%. Nutritionally there is no difference between conventional and organic although the former has higher traces of pesticides. The choice is between conventional pesticide and organic E.coli.
My advice is to buy your meats from abattoirs and farmer's markets, use local grocers as much as possible, and to eat less and do more.
I agree on this. Just to add: do you guys really thing that farmers in the USA are able to produce that much REAL organic food as market requirement is? definitely : No
But food industry is the strongest one in the world and you do have to believe in their labels! Me, personally, do not believe in one single letter of their "organic" label.
Simple example: buy organic and non-organic tomato, taste both - they have almost the same taste. Grow one on your own and then compare it again and you will see what real organic food is about
Yawns: What do you think about organic food? There is alot in the media and around talking about the health benefits of organic food. That unhealthy diet of processed foods are killing us. Do you believe that? Do you think it cost too much for organic? Should the government do something more about this problem? etc have you say. If you have anything to add please feel free bring another valid point to the discussion.
So I work in a food co-op. (Basically a health food store) and I am in the meat section learning cutting and more. I used to cook in the same store. Organic is okay, but there are loop holes. Always pick local, you can speak to the local farmers and ranchers. See what they raise and how. And then have a better feel of what you should expect your food to taste like. Keep in mind that just because organic has all sorts of rules and stipulations doesn't mean that that is really 100%' especially since the main corporations and lobbyists have gotten into making money off of this "fad".
As per your other question, is the current conventional food killing us? Clearly. If you eat an unadulterated plate of food (pile on as much as you usually would) you'll notice you don't necessarily eat as much. All the chemicals and sugars in other foods trigger cravings. Real food. Like my grandparents would have had, doesn't. You can't stop at one potato chip because off all the naughty stuff on it. Which is how people end up eating a whole bag.
Ccincy: There are a lot misleading claims and labeling of food.
I love it when food markets claim that things are fresh as in the case of fish. What a scam.
Fresh to me is when you catch the fish yourself or you grow veggies and fruit on your property.
If horse can be sold as beef a year or two ago and kangaroo sold to USA as beef in the eighties using chemicals on product sold as organic would not be hard .
funny thing , the Aussies were looking for another name to call Roo last year to make it more marketable ,don't know why they don't call it beef as it worked last time .
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
Organic food is better than conventionally sprayed food with insecticides, fungicides, hormones, etc.. but then you wonder better for whom or what.
Organic food is better for planet Earth because less toxic chemicals are released into the atmosphere in their growing and it is better for human consumption as well.
However, some natural –organic- vegetables do have some substances intended to protect them from insects, pests, etc... and those substances can be dangerous to humans.
lifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico16,713 posts
epirb: If horse can be sold as beef a year or two ago and kangaroo sold to USA as beef in the eighties using chemicals on product sold as organic would not be hard .
funny thing , the Aussies were looking for another name to call Roo last year to make it more marketable ,don't know why they don't call it beef as it worked last time .
Horse meat is very lean and tasty!
We do get Aussie sheeps (lots) and they are mixed one-Mexican-sheep:one-Aussie-sheep to make "Birria" that tastes like birria.
Brannigan70Yellow Brick Road , Manchester, Mayo Ireland2,339 posts
Yawns: What do you think about organic food? There is alot in the media and around talking about the health benefits of organic food. That unhealthy diet of processed foods are killing us. Do you believe that? Do you think it cost too much for organic? Should the government do something more about this problem? etc have you say. If you have anything to add please feel free bring another valid point to the discussion.
I probably could/should introduce some organic to my diet
Aly81: So I work in a food co-op. (Basically a health food store) and I am in the meat section learning cutting and more. I used to cook in the same store. Organic is okay, but there are loop holes. Always pick local, you can speak to the local farmers and ranchers. See what they raise and how. And then have a better feel of what you should expect your food to taste like. Keep in mind that just because organic has all sorts of rules and stipulations doesn't mean that that is really 100%' especially since the main corporations and lobbyists have gotten into making money off of this "fad".
As per your other question, is the current conventional food killing us? Clearly. If you eat an unadulterated plate of food (pile on as much as you usually would) you'll notice you don't necessarily eat as much. All the chemicals and sugars in other foods trigger cravings. Real food. Like my grandparents would have had, doesn't. You can't stop at one potato chip because off all the naughty stuff on it. Which is how people end up eating a whole bag.
good point. So foods that are processed and bad for us are addictive because of the additives. Keep sugar levels balanced with healthy natural sugars that are slow releasing from fruits etc and lessens the food cravings, helping us to know the difference of organic and non organic= good v's bad leading to health problems. Can even effect a womans hormones and peoples moods.
chatonlyman2: I find Organic apples during the winter months not fresh so I avoid apples but I hear you. Fresh organic apples from Canada are a breth of fresh air.
ok. I don't eat apples often anyway but if and when I do I eat them fresh and organic. I rather eat fresh avocados every morning - that's my breakfast, and sometimes fresh blueberries or fresh strawberries, fresh bananas or fresh pears and drink some white tea.
chatonlyman2: I find Organic apples during the winter months not fresh so I avoid apples but I hear you. Fresh organic apples from Canada are a breth of fresh air.
all the fresh organic apples I buy are grown right here in Ontario
equiya: ok. I don't eat apples often anyway but if and when I do I eat them fresh and organic. I rather eat fresh avocados every morning - that's my breakfast, and sometimes fresh blueberries or fresh strawberries, fresh bananas or fresh pears and drink some white tea.
Its the season for the good fruits and vegetables. Have you tried the abundant wild blueberries from Northern Ontario fresh off the plant. Very good for your health. Bears love it.
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I also know that organic tests positive for E.coli at a rate of about 10%, and the conventional tests positive at around 2%. Nutritionally there is no difference between conventional and organic although the former has higher traces of pesticides. The choice is between conventional pesticide and organic E.coli.
My advice is to buy your meats from abattoirs and farmer's markets, use local grocers as much as possible, and to eat less and do more.