Should Obama visit Cuba? (146)

Mar 24, 2016 12:07 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
fishinandshootin: That is a whole new can of worms... For starters I think USA should start by enforcing the immigration laws it has now.


If I were POTUS I'd find a way to legally grant amnesty for those repentant migrants who will henceforth pay an appropriate fine for enetering the USA illegally, pay taxes on all earnings Andean to speak and write American English on a college level.
Mar 24, 2016 12:22 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
I wouldn't give amnesty or anything else to any of them. When our veterans heathcare is covered, none of them are homeless and our children and elderly are taken care of... then maybe we can consider taking in outsiders who enter the right way.
Mar 24, 2016 1:18 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
sophiasummer
sophiasummersophiasummerNorthland, New Zealand112 Threads 6,528 Posts
There you are

"The Cuban Arm shake"

detective
Mar 24, 2016 10:37 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
crayons: thats a real shame, bein afghan war is now all about protecting the taliban dope thats still shipped to cartels in mexico... and world wide as well,,,, 450 billion in laundered dope money annually through central banks,


Crayons a good citizen must report to the police:

-If they know about any illegal activity going on (being done by Mexican Drug dealers or American drug dealers or any nationality drug dealers).

-If they know and can prove about bank's laundering of the money.



coffee
Mar 24, 2016 10:56 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
galrads: Italians living in the USA With-Out-Papers (WOPs) during WWII were put in internment camps here. Are you thinking that this should also happen to immigrants without papers (visa) living in the USA today?
galrads: Internment camps were the governments idea. I was around back then. I was just curious if that was what you thought would be proper today for illegal migrants.

As I said before I would not put anyone in a Camp and since you have considered it.

Why not?

Put all the the immigrants without visa (IWV) and your fellow Americans that hire them in those camps, see problem solved.

laugh

galrads:
Implement this policy and the U.S. companies would have to move their current manufacturing operations in Mexico back to the USA to avoid instability in marketin their products. g'nite

Global markets are way more complex than that and I admit I am not an expert on the subject.
However, it is ok with me if you want to move all the manufacturing operations back to USA, the problem is: that is not your decision not even your gov decision but a decision of the investors, the businesspeople and I am pretty sure they care about their profits and they do not give a peanut where they do have their business.

Now, do not forget that USA business is all over the world and if you want a closed economy, you might have to think twice.

galrads: ..
If left up to me, I'd have our government deny any kind of trade with Mexico for one week every time an illegal migrant was found here.


Too bad you are not the one making that call, otherwise I would support you even further; end relationships with Mexico.


very happy
Mar 24, 2016 11:02 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
galrads: Congress made Donald Trump when they passed the China trade act, later signed by our fearless leader William Clinton in May 2000.


USA has been trading with China long before yet in lower quantitites.

The question would be:

Who benefits from the trading of the USA with China?



coffee
Mar 24, 2016 11:03 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
epirb: yeah , need em for market access , same as those nutty yanks . Start paying you workers more and they will stay at home , whats more be a drift south .


I do.



coffee
Mar 24, 2016 11:13 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
fishinandshootin: There was a reason for the embargo on cuba. If one thinks about it, they allowed the Russians to put nuclear weapons there in the 60s. They are not a friend, they are an enemy. They have nothing to offer. Thier leaders are dictators, murders and thugs. Just like the terrorist Iranians that our disgrace of a president signed a deal with. At this rate we will be "friends with benifits" with all of our enemies by the end of this scumbags failed presidency. Worse off, all of our allies will have turned thier backs on us, just like Obama has done to them. He should stay in the USA and hide in a closet. Everytime he leaves the Whitehouse he screws up America worse.


Fishinandshootin
Obama’s going to Cuba
Could it have affected someone in a good way?

fishinandshootin: That was not Obama's decision. The question was not about China. I'll answer you though. I'd rather not trade with China. They are an enemy to the USA as well. We and our allies can make any product that China makes, and it would be of a higher quality. If we took our trade money away from China, they would be more likely to play ball. As a whole, I would love to see the US stop funding our enimies.


It is not a problem of making the "goods" it is about the cost of the production of them.

fishinandshootin: China is a communist country that is allied with our enimies. They ignore human rights, children's rights, workers rights, women's rights. They don't care who lives or dies as long as the leaders stay in power and get richer.


It looks like your personal view might not be in agreement with what is going on according to the trading with China.

USA trading with China just for 2015
Exports $116,183,000,000
Imports $481,880,000,000

And that is only in goods (not services included).

Do you really believe that American or Mexican or any other nationality bussiness people care about human rights?


wave
Mar 24, 2016 11:20 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
sophiasummer: There you are

"The Cuban Arm shake"


Care to join?

wave

lifeisadream: Why is China an enemy of yours?
I am of now but I will get back to your comments other time, thank you.


epirb: off , see ya life


Thank you very much Epirb for such a important addition to my learning of English: Off Off Off


Now, would you care to answer about why is China an enemy of yours?

wave
Mar 24, 2016 11:25 AM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Good time to all!

I am off to a hospital, some friends had an accident a couple of days ago.


Life is today bouquet
Mar 24, 2016 12:26 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
lifeisadream: As I said before I would not put anyone in a Camp and since you have considered it.

Why not?

Put all the the immigrants without visa (IWV) and your fellow Americans that hire them in those camps, see problem solved.

Global markets are way more complex than that and I admit I am not an expert on the subject.
However, it is ok with me if you want to move all the manufacturing operations back to USA, the problem is: that is not your decision not even your gov decision but a decision of the investors, the businesspeople and I am pretty sure they care about their profits and they do not give a peanut where they do have their business.

Now, do not forget that USA business is all over the world and if you want a closed economy, you might have to think twice.

Too bad you are not the one making that call, otherwise I would support you even further; end relationships with Mexico.



We don't want to end relations with Mexico. It would be great, though, if Mexico was the 51st State in our Union! handshake


I hope your friends in the hospital get better soon!





wave
Mar 24, 2016 4:06 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
Kattte
KattteKattteVancouver, British Columbia Canada759 Posts
Should Obama visit Cuba?Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend![/quote

I would have said yes but now that he has, I think it would be nice if he invited all cubans to come and visit the US.
Perhaps he could arrange for the US navy to bring all cubans over...
(now that would really set off trump and cruz!rolling on the floor laughing )



but then again, after the Cubans see the real US, perhaps they will want to be left alone....laugh
Mar 24, 2016 4:24 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will only make it more expensive for Canadians should there be resolution!
Mar 24, 2016 4:33 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
Da_Moose: NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will only make it more expensive for Canadians should there be resolution!
hi moose laugh wave
Mar 24, 2016 4:37 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
Da_Moose
Da_MooseDa_MooseWestlock, Alberta Canada57 Threads 1,839 Posts
ali110: hi moose


Hey Ali!!!

This place still seems to be the same!rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing

I hope all is well!
Mar 24, 2016 5:56 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
epirb
epirbepirbDannevirke, Hawke's Bay New Zealand32 Threads 2 Polls 7,379 Posts
lifeisadream: Care to join?

Thank you very much Epirb for such a important addition to my learning of English: Off Off Off Now, would you care to answer about why is China an enemy of yours?
emmmmm knowing we could do our bit to blow communist china out of the water ,

nothing about enemy their , you don't like China Life ??
Mar 24, 2016 6:52 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
hotburninluv
hotburninluvhotburninluvPalm Desert, California USA30 Threads 1 Polls 297 Posts
tomcatwarne: Same difference


"actually, I think he should stay there!" too!

He likes "kickin' it with" a murderous Dictator (like Castro), let him stay there!
Mar 24, 2016 9:01 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
hotburninluv: "actually, I think he should stay there!" too!

He likes "kickin' it with" a murderous Dictator (like Castro), let him stay there!


Couldn't help but remember a story about Jesus Christ. I believe that He did not come into this world to be with the righteous. His message was for us sinners.
Mar 24, 2016 9:12 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
galrads: We don't want to end relations with Mexico. It would be great, though, if Mexico was the 51st State in our Union! I hope your friends in the hospital get better soon!


You already know my position on your interest of Mexico being another state of USA but keep dreaming.

laugh

thank you Galrads for your wishes for my friends, they are ok now.
One will take quite some time to recover but they are all alive.


handshake
Mar 24, 2016 9:15 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
Kattte: Should Obama visit Cuba?Thanks in advance and have a lovely weekend![/quote

I would have said yes but now that he has, I think it would be nice if he invited all cubans to come and visit the US.
Perhaps he could arrange for the US navy to bring all cubans over...
(now that would really set off trump and cruz! )
but then again, after the Cubans see the real US, perhaps they will want to be left alone....


Perhaps so, but Cubans must have freedom even for getting out of their country if they wish to.
Mar 24, 2016 9:20 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
epirb: emmmmm knowing we could do our bit to blow communist china out of the water ,

nothing about enemy their , you don't like China Life ??


confused

I have never been to China but I have read some about it and I have met some Chinese people. I do like China and I would love to visit for some time.

No need to blow anyone out from my side.


cool
Mar 24, 2016 9:29 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
lifeisadream: ..

USA trading with China just for 2015
Exports $116,183,000,000
Imports $481,880,000,000

And that is only in goods (not services included).

Do you really believe that American or Mexican or any other nationality bussiness people care about human rights?


For the record I am in favor of trading in fact it is part of my job to some extent.
Mar 24, 2016 9:33 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
hotburninluv: "actually, I think he should stay there!" too!

He likes "kickin' it with" a murderous Dictator (like Castro), let him stay there!
hotburninluv: "actually, I think he should stay there!" too!

He likes "kickin' it with" a murderous Dictator (like Castro), let him stay there!


Do not forget how many millions of lives have been lost because of American wars or do you have a selective memory?

Or perhaps you do not know about it.
Mar 24, 2016 9:37 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
lifeisadream: You already know my position on your interest of Mexico being another state of USA but keep dreaming.



thank you Galrads for your wishes for my friends, they are ok now.
One will take quite some time to recover but they are all alive.



Well, then, how do you feel about a North American Union which the begerdudes are trying to work on. There would be one strong currency among the USA, Canada and Mexico. It is going to be named the Amero.

Gee, I miss good Mexican food. Haven't had any since I attended schools way back, in so cal blues
Mar 24, 2016 9:46 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
lifeisadream
lifeisadreamlifeisadreamMexi Go, Mexico State Mexico156 Threads 20 Polls 16,713 Posts
galrads: Well, then, how do you feel about a North American Union which the begerdudes are trying to work on. There would be one strong currency among the USA, Canada and Mexico. It is going to be named the Amero.

Gee, I miss good Mexican food. Haven't had any since I attended schools way back, in so cal


What about "Ya-mero" for a North American currency.


laugh

Regarding to the food:
When I have to travel to the rural areas I get to eat homemade tortillas cooked on a fire made of wood and some food like beans or eggs with a flavor that no Michelin stars restaurant can replicate.

My favorite food is Mexican but I might be biased.

thumbs up

Nite nite!
Mar 24, 2016 10:18 PM CST Should Obama visit Cuba?
galrads
galradsgalradsDublin, Ohio USA2,264 Threads 279 Polls 36,283 Posts
lifeisadream: What about "Ya-mero" for a North American currency.

Regarding to the food:
When I have to travel to the rural areas I get to eat homemade tortillas cooked on a fire made of wood and some food like beans or eggs with a flavor that no Michelin stars restaurant can replicate.

My favorite food is Mexican but I might be biased.

Nite nite!


Not sure what Ya-Mero is but it problem make a fine currency.



applause I bet the tortillas are made using fresh white corn. smitten

And..... Oh, what I wouldn't give for a meal like that!


G'nite ... . wave
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