123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
yubba: . I have never been treated fairly Sweetie, even by my own family.
Sweety,your not the only one with family unfairness issues... Some people may have more issues than yourself but they might be too shy to admit it...so it really comes back to individual how each of us handles some life unpleasant experiences. I like the quote about bitterness... to make from lemons = lemonade. Chear up...We're never stop learning...
123whisper: Sweety,your not the only one with family unfairness issues... Some people may have more issues than yourself but they might be too shy to admit it...so it really comes back to individual how each of us handles some life unpleasant experiences. I like the quote about bitterness... to make from lemons = lemonade. Chear up...We're never stop learning...
. hahahahahaha l don't need cheer up l am very happy, whatever happened is in the past and it does not bother me because it cannot be changed, however it cannot be forgotten for many reasons.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
yubba: . hahahahahaha l don't need cheer up l am very happy, whatever happened is in the past and it does not bother me because it cannot be changed, however it cannot be forgotten for many reasons.
O.K. Don't cheer up... Stay happy go lucky...alone. I have no doubt that your the one who knows what's best for you. I just know one thing;if you want to see changes in people or in the world ...be that change you want to see...
123whisper: O.K. Don't cheer up... Stay happy go lucky...alone. I have no doubt that your the one who knows what's best for you. I just know one thing;if you want to see changes in people or in the world ...be that change you want to see...
. No, l do not need to 'cheer up' because l am not unhappy, if you were here or could see then you would know.
"Change", l think people do not change, they may do over very many years or through an illness or serious accident. I think you have been in various relationships and when things go wrong you hear or say things like "I am sorry, l will 'change' and it will never happen again". Never listen to this because its all lies, the person saying those words is clutching at straws because they know they did wrong and are hoping to salvage something.
Like the guy is a wife beater he will do all he can to make the woman forgive him................Never Do!, it will happen again, the woman just needs to pack her bag and leave immediately.
Now, l cannot "change" simply because l do not wish to, my happiness depends on 'me' doing the best for me and its what l have done for five years and you are correct in that l do know what is best for me.
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
yubba: . No, l do not need to 'cheer up' because l am not unhappy, if you were here or could see then you would know.
"Change", l think people do not change, they may do over very many years or through an illness or serious accident. I think you have been in various relationships and when things go wrong you hear or say things like "I am sorry, l will 'change' and it will never happen again". Never listen to this because its all lies, the person saying those words is clutching at straws because they know they did wrong and are hoping to salvage something.
Like the guy is a wife beater he will do all he can to make the woman forgive him................Never Do!, it will happen again, the woman just needs to pack her bag and leave immediately.
Now, l cannot "change" simply because l do not wish to, my happiness depends on 'me' doing the best for me and its what l have done for five years and you are correct in that l do know what is best for me.
I haven't been in various relationships. Except having my own life experiences...crossing big ocean and facing life changes...I have learned much from my various job experiences that continue enriching me to keep open mind and to be no judgemental towards people I come across to... You made good point...I know that only person we can try to change is self. We all carry some baggages from past...but try not to effect your present and future by bringing up bad memories to new experiences in potential relationship... if you ever considered one. Wish you can free yourself from bitterness...
123whisper: I haven't been in various relationships. Except having my own life experiences...crossing big ocean and facing life changes...I have learned much from my various job experiences that continue enriching me to keep open mind and to be no judgemental towards people I come across to... You made good point...I know that only person we can try to change is self. We all carry some baggages from past...but try not to effect your present and future by bringing up bad memories to new experiences in potential relationship... if you ever considered one. Wish you can free yourself from bitterness...
I would sum this up as a form of misdirected sophism. It serves no practical positive goal for most people undergoing or that have passed through the many problems a family/ relatives or of a wife or husband can inflict upon someone. We survive those times and people as we have some warnings of what is coming...you know it's going to go badly when you wake up and the damn birds are singing Leonard Cohen songs...If one gets depressed, hey, it's a brilliant excuse to behave as badly as you like, especially when it comes to family. The greater part of every family is always odious. If there are one or two good ones in the lot, consider yourself lucky. Distant relatives...in every sense of distant, are usually the best kind to have, the further, the better. In this 'open age', most of us could easily speak of how miserable most of us are due to growing up in a dysfunctional family Having a family in many cases, is like having a bowling alley installed into your brain. Family, relatives are the crab grass in the lawn of life; like an octopus from whose tentacles we never quite escape; or as Oscar Wilde once put it, they are a sort of aggravated form of the public. Relatives/ family are a lot of tedious/ obnoxious people who don't know how to live or when to die. Some are like fudge; mostly sweet, with a few nuts. Those seem to be, rather well balanced for a 'family diet' They are the 'bright side' of family life. Always look for the bright side of life. (Thank you, Eric Idle!)
I can only go by what I was told by people who lived in those dark periods.. People from Estonia , Lithuania , Latvia & Belarus all had similar views..
I am from Lithuania, lived there in "dark periods" . If you are really interested what was life then I can enlighten you. I lived in 5 countries, 4 of them where people don't drink vodka...lol...
123whisperMelbourne, Victoria Australia2,116 posts
Kattte: I would sum this up as a form of misdirected sophism. It serves no practical positive goal for most people undergoing or that have passed through the many problems a family/ relatives or of a wife or husband can inflict upon someone. We survive those times and people as we have some warnings of what is coming...you know it's going to go badly when you wake up and the damn birds are singing Leonard Cohen songs...If one gets depressed, hey, it's a brilliant excuse to behave as badly as you like, especially when it comes to family. The greater part of every family is always odious. If there are one or two good ones in the lot, consider yourself lucky. Distant relatives...in every sense of distant, are usually the best kind to have, the further, the better. In this 'open age', most of us could easily speak of how miserable most of us are due to growing up in a dysfunctional family Having a family in many cases, is like having a bowling alley installed into your brain. Family, relatives are the crab grass in the lawn of life; like an octopus from whose tentacles we never quite escape; or as Oscar Wilde once put it, they are a sort of aggravated form of the public. Relatives/ family are a lot of tedious/ obnoxious people who don't know how to live or when to die. Some are like fudge; mostly sweet, with a few nuts. Those seem to be, rather well balanced for a 'family diet' They are the 'bright side' of family life. Always look for the bright side of life. (Thank you, Eric Idle!)
As you said,if one gets depressed it's a brilliant excuse to behave as badly as one like and blame on all life disappointments with people. ..picking only bad things and overlooking anything good ...which makes one ungrateful for simple beauty of life.
allthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK4,697 posts
Grapewine555: I am from Lithuania, lived there in "dark periods" . If you are really interested what was life then I can enlighten you. I lived in 5 countries, 4 of them where people don't drink vodka...lol...
So you do know what I'm talking about. Yeh, I'd like to hear your point of view.
allthegoodnamest: During the soviet occupation , most eastern block countries were so poor, the only thing that was cheap & freely available was vodka .. Drinking was the only form of entertainment available on a social level.
Don't stoop down so low as one man I hate to mention his name here who is always putting everyone down.His thread on here Is he likes Russian girls bcs they don't smile neither does he. Seems his nastiness is now catching up on him.Now as miserable as they come in his youth. I know Allgood u r a good man. If the girls on here are rejecting u ,it's probably bcs u smoke and they are allergic. Pls don't stoop down to the level u don't belong,as people are beginning to notice u r changing and not for good.
tomcatwarneOcean City, Plumouth, Devon, England UK17,106 posts
funke3: Don't stoop down so low as one man I hate to mention his name here who is always putting everyone down.His thread on here Is he likes Russian girls bcs they don't smile neither does he. Seems his nastiness is now catching up on him.Now as miserable as they come in his youth. I know Allgood u r a good man. If the girls on here are rejecting u ,it's probably bcs u smoke and they are allergic. Pls don't stoop down to the level u don't belong,as people are beginning to notice u r changing and not for good.
allthegoodnamestLondon, Essex, England UK4,697 posts
funke3: Don't stoop down so low as one man I hate to mention his name here who is always putting everyone down.His thread on here Is he likes Russian girls bcs they don't smile neither does he. Seems his nastiness is now catching up on him.Now as miserable as they come in his youth. I know Allgood u r a good man. If the girls on here are rejecting u ,it's probably bcs u smoke and they are allergic. Pls don't stoop down to the level u don't belong,as people are beginning to notice u r changing and not for good.
I don't think I'm particularly vindictive towards any individual, it's just my humour that's being taken out of context.. As for the smoking. I respect people don't like , or are allergic to smoke, that's why I wouldn't smoke in an environment that made them uncomfortable.
KremaP: They mocked you All...or they were just complainers... There will always be many of them, ready to spit at everything including the host country (what they actually do when back home)... I had few young (25-30), Latvian women working for me in UK and they all missed their country and talked in Russian to me...
Darling K If they were as beautiful and intelligent as you are, I can understand you well. Unlike A,N other, I worked vary closely with a couple of skilled Latvian Optical engineers and a Professor, who were all hands on with advanced Crystalography (growing)and optical physics Spectro-Photometry & Holographics development (in its infancy) in the 1970's.
There were very few manufacturers in the world at that level at the time with the facillities, I think about 5 and we were the only one in the UK.
We found they all had a great sense of humour like a drink, got used to Shepherd Neame's new brand of Ale and played Football for our works team having enquired in the first week. I have always been a Rugby man (Welsh supporter and Choisr singer) and I have to say they "educated" the whole Crystallogaphy unit of 37 within weeks of arrival - Great guys.
You are right. If you were here in the UK now you know I would welcome you. and I like Vodka too -
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I have never been treated fairly Sweetie, even by my own family.
I like the quote about bitterness... to make from lemons = lemonade. Chear up...We're never stop learning...