Covid Question - Masks. (83)
mikey4691:
BTW, your last sentence about the site seems to alienate many people here who like this site...
What people?BTW, your last sentence about the site seems to alienate many people here who like this site...
GeneralBeacon: All you do is whine... you've proved NOTHING.
Triggered??
To actually answer your question and stay on topic, it doesn't really matter whether we can prove that masks help prevent the spread, or acquiring the infection.
If there is a possibility, then we should.
Logic would dictate that they do help, given covering the mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing is something we have always done.
The hypothesis I'm most interested in is the idea that viral load may be linked to severity of disease symptoms. If wearing a mask might reduce viral load to the point of mild symptoms, or asymptomatic infection, it's possible that mask wearing could lead to herd immunity with fewer severe cases, long haulers and deaths.
Mask wearing may be key to improving the economic situation if we can avoid overwhelming healthcare systems and the need for lockdown.
As I see it, the only thing we have to lose from wearing masks is comfort and pride. Nobody revels in wearing an uncomfortable mask and I reckon people who use the niqab as a symbol for anti-Muslim sentiment are feeling pretty stupid right now.
I'm hearing impaired, I rely on lip reading and I wear reading glasses. I get uncomfortably hot when the weather goes above 10C. I really, really don't like wearing a mask and I appreciate that wearing one for an 8 hour, or 12 hour shift must be really difficult. I think we need to look at making masks that are more comfortable and making sure people get frequent breaks from wearing them.
If there is a possibility, then we should.
Logic would dictate that they do help, given covering the mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing is something we have always done.
The hypothesis I'm most interested in is the idea that viral load may be linked to severity of disease symptoms. If wearing a mask might reduce viral load to the point of mild symptoms, or asymptomatic infection, it's possible that mask wearing could lead to herd immunity with fewer severe cases, long haulers and deaths.
Mask wearing may be key to improving the economic situation if we can avoid overwhelming healthcare systems and the need for lockdown.
As I see it, the only thing we have to lose from wearing masks is comfort and pride. Nobody revels in wearing an uncomfortable mask and I reckon people who use the niqab as a symbol for anti-Muslim sentiment are feeling pretty stupid right now.
I'm hearing impaired, I rely on lip reading and I wear reading glasses. I get uncomfortably hot when the weather goes above 10C. I really, really don't like wearing a mask and I appreciate that wearing one for an 8 hour, or 12 hour shift must be really difficult. I think we need to look at making masks that are more comfortable and making sure people get frequent breaks from wearing them.
False Negative Tests for SARS-CoV-2 Infection — Challenges and Implications
List of authors.
Steven Woloshin, M.D., Neeraj Patel, B.A., and Aaron S. Kesselheim, M.D., J.D., M.P.H.
Two studies from Wuhan, China, arouse concern about false negative RT-PCR tests in patients with apparent Covid-19 illness. In a preprint, Yang et al. described 213 patients hospitalized with Covid-19, of whom 37 were critically ill.2 They collected 205 throat swabs, 490 nasal swabs, and 142 sputum samples (median, 3 per patient) and used an RT-PCR test approved by the Chinese regulator. In days 1 through 7 after onset of illness, 11% of sputum, 27% of nasal, and 40% of throat samples were deemed falsely negative. Zhao et al. studied 173 hospitalized patients with acute respiratory symptoms and a chest CT “typical” of Covid-19, or SARS-CoV-2 detected in at least one respiratory specimen. Antibody seroconversion was observed in 93%.3 RT-PCR testing of respiratory samples taken on days 1 through 7 of hospitalization were SARS-CoV-2–positive in at least one sample from 67% of patients. Neither study reported using an independent panel, unaware of index-test results, to establish a final diagnosis of Covid-19 illness, which may have biased the researchers toward overestimating sensitivity.
In a preprint systematic review of five studies (not including the Yang and Zhao studies), involving 957 patients (“under suspicion of Covid-19” or with “confirmed cases”), false negatives ranged from 2 to 29%.4 However, the certainty of the evidence was considered very low because of the heterogeneity of sensitivity estimates among the studies, lack of blinding to index-test results in establishing diagnoses, and failure to report key RT-PCR characteristics.4 Taken as a whole, the evidence, while limited, raises concern about frequent false negative RT-PCR results.
List of authors.
Steven Woloshin, M.D., Neeraj Patel, B.A., and Aaron S. Kesselheim, M.D., J.D., M.P.H.
Two studies from Wuhan, China, arouse concern about false negative RT-PCR tests in patients with apparent Covid-19 illness. In a preprint, Yang et al. described 213 patients hospitalized with Covid-19, of whom 37 were critically ill.2 They collected 205 throat swabs, 490 nasal swabs, and 142 sputum samples (median, 3 per patient) and used an RT-PCR test approved by the Chinese regulator. In days 1 through 7 after onset of illness, 11% of sputum, 27% of nasal, and 40% of throat samples were deemed falsely negative. Zhao et al. studied 173 hospitalized patients with acute respiratory symptoms and a chest CT “typical” of Covid-19, or SARS-CoV-2 detected in at least one respiratory specimen. Antibody seroconversion was observed in 93%.3 RT-PCR testing of respiratory samples taken on days 1 through 7 of hospitalization were SARS-CoV-2–positive in at least one sample from 67% of patients. Neither study reported using an independent panel, unaware of index-test results, to establish a final diagnosis of Covid-19 illness, which may have biased the researchers toward overestimating sensitivity.
In a preprint systematic review of five studies (not including the Yang and Zhao studies), involving 957 patients (“under suspicion of Covid-19” or with “confirmed cases”), false negatives ranged from 2 to 29%.4 However, the certainty of the evidence was considered very low because of the heterogeneity of sensitivity estimates among the studies, lack of blinding to index-test results in establishing diagnoses, and failure to report key RT-PCR characteristics.4 Taken as a whole, the evidence, while limited, raises concern about frequent false negative RT-PCR results.
GeneralBeacon: False Negative Tests for SARS-CoV-2 Infection — Challenges and Implications
List of authors.
Steven Woloshin, M.D., Neeraj Patel, B.A., and Aaron S. Kesselheim, M.D., J.D., M.P.H.
Two studies from Wuhan, China, arouse concern about false negative RT-PCR tests in patients with apparent Covid-19 illness. In a preprint, Yang et al. described 213 patients hospitalized with Covid-19, of whom 37 were critically ill.2 They collected 205 throat swabs, 490 nasal swabs, and 142 sputum samples (median, 3 per patient) and used an RT-PCR test approved by the Chinese regulator. In days 1 through 7 after onset of illness, 11% of sputum, 27% of nasal, and 40% of throat samples were deemed falsely negative. Zhao et al. studied 173 hospitalized patients with acute respiratory symptoms and a chest CT “typical” of Covid-19, or SARS-CoV-2 detected in at least one respiratory specimen. Antibody seroconversion was observed in 93%.3 RT-PCR testing of respiratory samples taken on days 1 through 7 of hospitalization were SARS-CoV-2–positive in at least one sample from 67% of patients. Neither study reported using an independent panel, unaware of index-test results, to establish a final diagnosis of Covid-19 illness, which may have biased the researchers toward overestimating sensitivity.
In a preprint systematic review of five studies (not including the Yang and Zhao studies), involving 957 patients (“under suspicion of Covid-19” or with “confirmed cases”), false negatives ranged from 2 to 29%.4 However, the certainty of the evidence was considered very low because of the heterogeneity of sensitivity estimates among the studies, lack of blinding to index-test results in establishing diagnoses, and failure to report key RT-PCR characteristics.4 Taken as a whole, the evidence, while limited, raises concern about frequent false negative RT-PCR results.
What's the strategy? Stun them with science? or just bore them to death with copy/paste?List of authors.
Steven Woloshin, M.D., Neeraj Patel, B.A., and Aaron S. Kesselheim, M.D., J.D., M.P.H.
Two studies from Wuhan, China, arouse concern about false negative RT-PCR tests in patients with apparent Covid-19 illness. In a preprint, Yang et al. described 213 patients hospitalized with Covid-19, of whom 37 were critically ill.2 They collected 205 throat swabs, 490 nasal swabs, and 142 sputum samples (median, 3 per patient) and used an RT-PCR test approved by the Chinese regulator. In days 1 through 7 after onset of illness, 11% of sputum, 27% of nasal, and 40% of throat samples were deemed falsely negative. Zhao et al. studied 173 hospitalized patients with acute respiratory symptoms and a chest CT “typical” of Covid-19, or SARS-CoV-2 detected in at least one respiratory specimen. Antibody seroconversion was observed in 93%.3 RT-PCR testing of respiratory samples taken on days 1 through 7 of hospitalization were SARS-CoV-2–positive in at least one sample from 67% of patients. Neither study reported using an independent panel, unaware of index-test results, to establish a final diagnosis of Covid-19 illness, which may have biased the researchers toward overestimating sensitivity.
In a preprint systematic review of five studies (not including the Yang and Zhao studies), involving 957 patients (“under suspicion of Covid-19” or with “confirmed cases”), false negatives ranged from 2 to 29%.4 However, the certainty of the evidence was considered very low because of the heterogeneity of sensitivity estimates among the studies, lack of blinding to index-test results in establishing diagnoses, and failure to report key RT-PCR characteristics.4 Taken as a whole, the evidence, while limited, raises concern about frequent false negative RT-PCR results.
tell me that you didnt watch -Elysium-
most of you guys have heard about William
The only reason I wear a mask in contagious areas is due to unknowns... what COVID19 truly is, how it actually transmits, and why it's a slow-acting toxic agent with viral and non-viral capabilities. Politics aside...similarities to MERS and SARS are only minimal and delayed mutations mainly focusing on certain blood types is worrisome. COVID19 doesn't act like a virus from nature and certainly not from one that supposedly originated from one single bat in a Wuhan wet market. Natural viruses do not pick and choose blood types and humans are not given more immunity to all-natural viruses. The Chinese most likely orchestrated all this to coincide with the US elections and why they are moving against Hong Kong, Taiwan, and India.
mikey4691: Yes it does, maybe if you picked up your pace, you could get a laugh or two at yours..
Mikey, stop checking on my profile FFS. Do you bat for the pink team, or what? Dedovix: tell me that you didnt watch -Elysium-
What a coincidence, I just watched Elysium two nights ago waiting for data to be transferred late at night and found it quite interesting considering the annihilated district was LA... I'm sure the ghettos there will have a future like this. With Silicon Valley in Cali, the increased use of robotics, and increases in corruption attached to socialism this is a definite possibility. The streets are already filled with criminals, homeless, illegals, etc. If you want to see a real Hollywood- Chinese movie where actors have sold out to communists praising them try "Meg"... with Jason Statham, Bingbing Li, Rainn Wilson.ElysianFields: What's the strategy? Stun them with science? or just bore them to death with copy/paste?
No strategy... you already proved your inferior IQ level. 
jac_the_gripper: To actually answer your question and stay on topic, it doesn't really matter whether we can prove that masks help prevent the spread, or acquiring the infection.
If there is a possibility, then we should.
Logic would dictate that they do help, given covering the mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing is something we have always done.
The hypothesis I'm most interested in is the idea that viral load may be linked to severity of disease symptoms. If wearing a mask might reduce viral load to the point of mild symptoms, or asymptomatic infection, it's possible that mask wearing could lead to herd immunity with fewer severe cases, long haulers and deaths.
Mask wearing may be key to improving the economic situation if we can avoid overwhelming healthcare systems and the need for lockdown.
As I see it, the only thing we have to lose from wearing masks is comfort and pride. Nobody revels in wearing an uncomfortable mask and I reckon people who use the niqab as a symbol for anti-Muslim sentiment are feeling pretty stupid right now.
I'm hearing impaired, I rely on lip reading and I wear reading glasses. I get uncomfortably hot when the weather goes above 10C. I really, really don't like wearing a mask and I appreciate that wearing one for an 8 hour, or 12 hour shift must be really difficult. I think we need to look at making masks that are more comfortable and making sure people get frequent breaks from wearing them.
I only agree with this philosophy because of the unknowns as I stated. I've actually worked with lip readers in some occasions... also taught them Italian sign language. They found it hilarious... just saying.If there is a possibility, then we should.
Logic would dictate that they do help, given covering the mouth and nose when coughing and sneezing is something we have always done.
The hypothesis I'm most interested in is the idea that viral load may be linked to severity of disease symptoms. If wearing a mask might reduce viral load to the point of mild symptoms, or asymptomatic infection, it's possible that mask wearing could lead to herd immunity with fewer severe cases, long haulers and deaths.
Mask wearing may be key to improving the economic situation if we can avoid overwhelming healthcare systems and the need for lockdown.
As I see it, the only thing we have to lose from wearing masks is comfort and pride. Nobody revels in wearing an uncomfortable mask and I reckon people who use the niqab as a symbol for anti-Muslim sentiment are feeling pretty stupid right now.
I'm hearing impaired, I rely on lip reading and I wear reading glasses. I get uncomfortably hot when the weather goes above 10C. I really, really don't like wearing a mask and I appreciate that wearing one for an 8 hour, or 12 hour shift must be really difficult. I think we need to look at making masks that are more comfortable and making sure people get frequent breaks from wearing them.
GeneralBeacon: No strategy... you already proved your inferior IQ level.
You win! I bow down to your vastly superior.....ego! 
Interesting on that Chinese banner idea. Regardless, been puzzling over that weird E. Could that be?
The point of masks is common sense says if you block your nose and mouth, you will get less paint fumes, welding fumes, dust, pollen, crop dust or whatever. And since we have limited options as to avoiding viruses,etc, what do we have to lose by wearing masks and not slobbering all over people like a happy dog?
They say risk increases with underlying conditions. Do any of us know if we feel fine and don't doctor, what or if might be underlying our health? So that can put everyone at higher risk. It is the unknown that is dangerous. Apparently health young people become long haulers or die.
So too those anti maskers...please go load your revolver with 5 bullets and go play Russian Roulette. Outside, so you don't make a mess.
The point of masks is common sense says if you block your nose and mouth, you will get less paint fumes, welding fumes, dust, pollen, crop dust or whatever. And since we have limited options as to avoiding viruses,etc, what do we have to lose by wearing masks and not slobbering all over people like a happy dog?
They say risk increases with underlying conditions. Do any of us know if we feel fine and don't doctor, what or if might be underlying our health? So that can put everyone at higher risk. It is the unknown that is dangerous. Apparently health young people become long haulers or die.
So too those anti maskers...please go load your revolver with 5 bullets and go play Russian Roulette. Outside, so you don't make a mess.
ElysianFields: You win! I bow down to your vastly superior.....ego!
Wrong again... I just posted my opinions like everyone else and yet they are accurate. You're the one whining and being a lunatic. Go right ahead... it's your gig, not mine. 
GeneralBeacon: Wrong again... I just posted my opinions like everyone else and yet they are accurate. You're the one whining and being a lunatic. Go right ahead... it's your gig, not mine.
Wrong again. Your opinions are not opinions, they are page-long copy/paste lectures. We don't need a school teacher. You're boring. STFU already a bit.
Tulefell: There are clear causes of death and there are less clear. But we have a very simple measure, though: excess mortality. There are expected death rates (depend on demographic structure) and there are observed death rates. Sweden (and a lot of other countries) has observed excess all-cause mortality under spring months. Now there's a slight deficit mortality. The logical conclusion: a lot of people died too early.
I hear you 
Dedovix: i think we had a talk about this
look a rookie computer geek can fake a autopsy report yet none was presented so how can anyone state that the number of deceased has increased 122 times???
you know if someone wears a white coat and appiers on mass medias, doesnt mean much aside a mass manipulation
Here's another report.look a rookie computer geek can fake a autopsy report yet none was presented so how can anyone state that the number of deceased has increased 122 times???
you know if someone wears a white coat and appiers on mass medias, doesnt mean much aside a mass manipulation
There are loads of posts stating the same thing. How many would you like to read .
ElysianFields: Wrong again. Your opinions are not opinions, they are page-long copy/paste lectures. We don't need a school teacher. You're boring.
STFU already a bit.
Actually, I did respond with my own opinions and added information to back my comment... all you do is whine, insult, and make a fool of yourself with lots of inner hate. I'm not teaching anyone... but you obviously need a good teacher to explore your own flaws and need for attention. So far you have added nothing intelligent... not my fault.STFU already a bit.
GeneralBeacon: Actually, I did respond with my own opinions and added information to back my comment... all you do is whine, insult, and make a fool of yourself with lots of inner hate. I'm not teaching anyone... but you obviously need a good teacher to explore your own flaws and need for attention. So far you have added nothing intelligent... not my fault.
Oh poo poo, fiddlesticks and stones, your riposte please. Here are 3 things you should consider from internal studies:
#1 A Dr. doing routine inspections at a drive-in testing site ( very popular in North America ) noticed something unusual on a few lab tables, he tested them and they were all COVID19 positive. All tables were properly scrubbed and sanitized beforehand... so how was the infection transmitted? From someone in the drive-through group that never left their cars, a lab tech doing it purposely to every table, or was it airborne indicating the infection can bypass cheap or improperly worn masks in a group designed for this? This would further indicate the actions of a low-grade bio-weapon or similar.
#2 A microbiologist in Italy infected a test area with the COVID19 virus, instead of testing the area again within a few days as usual he tested again in only a few hours and it was gone. A Zero-rating and never appeared again. However, in a completely different isolated room that was thoroughly scrubbed and sanitized with no one entering it nearby, there were a few positive spots. Same questions as above... no answers.
#3 A young boy entered Triage in ER with a badly cut lower leg... no positive for COVID19 shown yet antibody IgG, immunoassay detection IgG antibodies indicated possible exposure to COVID19. One day later completely disappeared.
I could go on.
Whether you want to wear a mask or not is up to, in reality, in the end, it may save or kill you... still, at this point the unknowns are worrisome, and at a forensic level COVID19 does not seem like a typical or one that 100 different vaccines can cure in 6 months. A full investigation is needed and nothing else will find the answers.
#1 A Dr. doing routine inspections at a drive-in testing site ( very popular in North America ) noticed something unusual on a few lab tables, he tested them and they were all COVID19 positive. All tables were properly scrubbed and sanitized beforehand... so how was the infection transmitted? From someone in the drive-through group that never left their cars, a lab tech doing it purposely to every table, or was it airborne indicating the infection can bypass cheap or improperly worn masks in a group designed for this? This would further indicate the actions of a low-grade bio-weapon or similar.
#2 A microbiologist in Italy infected a test area with the COVID19 virus, instead of testing the area again within a few days as usual he tested again in only a few hours and it was gone. A Zero-rating and never appeared again. However, in a completely different isolated room that was thoroughly scrubbed and sanitized with no one entering it nearby, there were a few positive spots. Same questions as above... no answers.
#3 A young boy entered Triage in ER with a badly cut lower leg... no positive for COVID19 shown yet antibody IgG, immunoassay detection IgG antibodies indicated possible exposure to COVID19. One day later completely disappeared.
I could go on.
Whether you want to wear a mask or not is up to, in reality, in the end, it may save or kill you... still, at this point the unknowns are worrisome, and at a forensic level COVID19 does not seem like a typical or one that 100 different vaccines can cure in 6 months. A full investigation is needed and nothing else will find the answers.
ElysianFields: Oh poo poo, fiddlesticks and stones, your riposte please.
Nice intellectual response. Volunteer in AstraZeneca coronavirus clinical trial dies, report says
It was not immediately clear if the victim received the vaccine or was in the placebo group.
It was not immediately clear if the victim received the vaccine or was in the placebo group.
He's not a good representation of Maltese people.
GeneralBeacon: He's not a good representation of Maltese people.
Nor of humans in general.. I saw him spout off to a few, before I ever smarted off to him/her... IDK??GeneralBeacon: Volunteer in AstraZeneca coronavirus clinical trial dies, report says
It was not immediately clear if the victim received the vaccine or was in the placebo group.
died of what? choking on a fish bone? cancer? heart attack? It was not immediately clear if the victim received the vaccine or was in the placebo group.
Ah fox news....
...never mindCDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks.
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson
A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.
“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.
In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they “often” wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they “never” wore a mask or face covering.
Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants’ efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at “gatherings with =10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation,” they still contracted the virus.
While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at “places that offer on-site eating or drinking,” the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.
“Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities,” the report states.
In fact, the report suggests that “direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance.”
Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to “slow the spread” of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.
CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine." pic.twitter.com/Ul0Ppj5qqv
— The Recount (@therecount) September 16, 2020
OCTOBER 12, 2020 By Jordan Davidson
A Centers for Disease Control report released in September shows that masks and face coverings are not effective in preventing the spread of COVID-19, even for those people who consistently wear them.
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from health care facilities who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.
“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.
In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they “often” wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they “never” wore a mask or face covering.
Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants’ efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at “gatherings with =10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation,” they still contracted the virus.
While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at “places that offer on-site eating or drinking,” the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.
“Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities,” the report states.
In fact, the report suggests that “direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance.”
Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to “slow the spread” of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.
CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine." pic.twitter.com/Ul0Ppj5qqv
— The Recount (@therecount) September 16, 2020
blathin: died of what? choking on a fish bone? cancer? heart attack?
Ah fox news.... ...never mind
Those are all written up as Corona...Ah fox news.... ...never mind
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Anyone dying of a car accident, heart attack, surgical error, or any preexisting conditions who tested positive for COVID19 in this group with no symptoms should not be classified as a COVID19 death as there is no correlation to the infection or illness. In fact, the Case Fatality Rate which now stands at 2.7% should be lower and while most mutations have no effects, they can alter the virus’s behavior or makeup, and if that helps the virus’ transmission, it can allow the mutated version to dominate. If the virus develops over time, then that could impact the efficacy of a vaccine, which might need to change as the virus evolves. Suffice to say we are actually testing for an unknown at this point in time naming it COVID19 which has similarities to all Coronaviruses of the past and we'll only know for sure in 12 months unless it turns out to be a toxic agent with viral functionality.
What they don't tell you is that there are 4 distinct scenarios, for a particular test outcome, with respect to a specific person... TP, FP, TN, and FN. Markers in most cases for other known illnesses are usually above 97% with much less false positives as tests have become standardized... in the 4 possible results, I listed regarding COVID19 the accuracy is actually quite low, and with so many brands on the market worldwide trying to make a buck with poor studies the testing has become a joke since they can't even distinguish if it's common influenza or not.
If you get a reading of TN for example you simply go home... if you get a TP, FP, or FN reading it will result in varying degrees of medical, societal, or economic costs including isolation for 14 days with the loss of employment whether you have any symptoms or not and why most medical institutions will categorize all deaths COVID19 to increase compensation. The FN reading however is probably worse... if the pathogen named COVID19 goes untreated in the lungs depending on underlying health conditions then it can become a COVID19 death or if nursing homes don't retest to save money considering 65% of seniors died lacking proper supervision. But, this crisis hasn't ended... in many respects it just started.
For the record, you can't prove COVID19 is the accelerator, the catalyst, or the straw that breaks the camel's back regarding deaths... there are no long-term studies and vital information is being hidden by China. The fact I'm a Trump supporter ( not a Republican as you suggest ) has nothing to do with the data itself and I don't live in any Southern state eating MacDonalds or plowing fields. By posting with ignorance you are wasting everyone's time and the one who doesn't have a grasp on reality. Stick to poetry and trying to impress women.