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Mar 11, 2009 9:21 AM CSTSIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England, UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts

SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting(Vote Below)

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we were made by god as the bible says
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we evolved from microbes
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30%
a little bit of both
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17%
i dont care were we came from
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were did we come from?what do you think, did we evolve from little microbes or was it the work of an higher power,maybe you think it might even be a bit of both
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Mar 11, 2009 9:23 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
jessejess47
jessejess47jessejess47ogdensburg, New York USA35 Threads 1 Polls 3,886 Posts
ha ha ha I was the first to vote ,do I win somethinglaugh nanny nnanny boo boo
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Mar 11, 2009 9:26 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Are you referring to human anthropogenesis as the actual origin of man? Yes, I would need to go with that over the bible. Sorry.
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Mar 11, 2009 9:29 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts


Creationists had no rebuttal argument for this in court
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Mar 11, 2009 9:34 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
For me, it's both. Evolution and Divine Creation...all of us have a spark of the Divine within, that's our soul, and part of the Earth, that's our body.

Earth my body,
Water my blood,
Air my breath,
and Fire my spirit.


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Mar 11, 2009 9:49 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
SensualVixen
SensualVixenSensualVixenTampa Bay area, Florida USA30 Threads 1,726 Posts
Evolution........
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Mar 11, 2009 10:16 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
SensualVixen: Evolution........


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Mar 11, 2009 11:12 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
Fallingman
FallingmanFallingmanDublin, Ireland29 Threads 12 Polls 11,436 Posts
SensualVixen: Evolution........


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Mar 11, 2009 11:19 AM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
trish123
trish123trish123Macclesfield, Cheshire, England UK177 Threads 4 Polls 13,724 Posts
I listened to an interview a couple of weeks ago, it was one scientist interviewing another - one of them worked at a Creationist Museum somewhere in the states and the evolutionist asked him how he could reconcile the Bibles teachings with with accepted scientific fact - the creationist guy replied that wherever the scientific findings came into conflict with biblical teachings, they discarded the science - which just about says it all for me really.......
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Mar 11, 2009 1:38 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
i also think to my self what is a god,i meen at the moment we have the meens to create life, we can jean splice to even make sub speaces even tho i cant spel it hahaha,

we can pratically clone,we can with animals so belive me the ability is there for hmans they just wont admit to it,so, if we was to travel back in time, would we be classed as gods?the creater of life?,

sience says that all life began in the sea as microbes, then we evoled and was able to come out of the water on to land.

the bible says life was created in 7 days by an all powerful god,is it possible that a race of beings who was very advanced came and we thort they was gods?
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Mar 11, 2009 1:47 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
chriss: i also think to my self what is a god,i meen at the moment we have the meens to create life, we can jean splice to even make sub speaces even tho i cant spel it hahaha,

we can pratically clone,we can with animals so belive me the ability is there for hmans they just wont admit to it,so, if we was to travel back in time, would we be classed as gods?the creater of life?,

sience says that all life began in the sea as microbes, then we evoled and was able to come out of the water on to land.

the bible says life was created in 7 days by an all powerful god,is it possible that a race of beings who was very advanced came and we thort they was gods?


I believe that the highlighted part did happen a few times in history. There's quite a bit of evidence to support this theory. wine
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Mar 11, 2009 1:49 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zi8FfMBYCkk

Creationists had no rebuttal argument for this in court
I'd say that leaves some people here with plenty Egg on their Faces,might even be an Ostrich-Egg.laugh
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Mar 11, 2009 2:05 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
i cant remember if i had read it somewere or wached it,but a so called cave was found that used to be the home of cave men, painted on the walls was pic's of space craft's,i dont knw how true that is, but it does ake u think.
druidess6308: I believe that the highlighted part did happen a few times in history. There's quite a bit of evidence to support this theory.
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Mar 11, 2009 2:07 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
Conrad73: I'd say that leaves some people here with plenty Egg on their Faces,might even be an Ostrich-Egg.


hehehe but at the same time,no ones faith is being questioned,we might of evoled from ape, but whos to say that an higer pwer didnt make ape?or start the life process its self off here on earth, so in that case the higher power would of been the creature of man, its just that we had to evolvedunno
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Mar 11, 2009 2:17 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
chriss: i cant remember if i had read it somewere or wached it,but a so called cave was found that used to be the home of cave men, painted on the walls was pic's of space craft's,i dont knw how true that is, but it does ake u think.


I read Gold of the Gods and Chariots of the Gods, and in them were pics of statues by the Incas and Mayans showing people with rocket packs on their backs, caves that were carved out with a technology beyond what our lasers today can do, etc. So, yes, I believe it's true that advanced civilizations used to visit here...might even have made us. Who knows? There are all kinds of interesting theories out there with good evidence to back them up.
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Mar 11, 2009 2:19 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
pretzelman
pretzelmanpretzelmanLas Vegas, Nevada USA43 Threads 1 Polls 2,956 Posts
I really don't care where I came from...I only care about today and where I'll go when I die. Anything else is unimportant, to me
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Mar 11, 2009 2:38 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
but doesnt the question of were u will go when u die revert back to the question is there a god?
pretzelman: I really don't care where I came from...I only care about today and where I'll go when I die. Anything else is unimportant, to me
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Mar 11, 2009 4:15 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
trish123: I listened to an interview a couple of weeks ago, it was one scientist interviewing another - one of them worked at a Creationist Museum somewhere in the states and the evolutionist asked him how he could reconcile the Bibles teachings with with accepted scientific fact - the creationist guy replied that wherever the scientific findings came into conflict with biblical teachings, they discarded the science - which just about says it all for me really.......


That is the most disturbing statment ever...laugh
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Mar 11, 2009 4:18 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
chriss: but doesnt the question of were u will go when u die revert back to the question is there a god?


Not necessarily. To what god do you refer? There are several. Perhaps we are reincarnated in an endless cycle. That would not require a materialist understanding of a godhead.
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Mar 11, 2009 4:25 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
chriss: hehehe but at the same time,no ones faith is being questioned,we might of evoled from ape, but whos to say that an higer pwer didnt make ape?or start the life process its self off here on earth, so in that case the higher power would of been the creature of man, its just that we had to evolve


We did not evolve from the great apes. That is a misconception often espoused by people who don’t fully grasp the Theory of Evolution. We shared a common ancestor with chimpanzee about 6 million years ago. They went in one direction and we went in another. There would be several species in between that would go extinct. Think of it as branches on a tree. At the tip of one branch would be a chimpanzee and on the tip of another homo sapiens (us.) We both evolved into our own unique species. If we had evolved from chimp, where would chimp be today?

The Hominidaeform a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.
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Mar 11, 2009 5:50 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
krimsa: Not necessarily. To what god do you refer? There are several. Perhaps we are reincarnated in an endless cycle. That would not require a materialist understanding of a godhead.


I don't know about that. If we were all reincarnated why would the population levels keep going up.. laugh There will never be any easy answers to these questions.
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Mar 11, 2009 6:08 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
RicoWest
RicoWestRicoWestlos angeles, California USA52 Threads 1 Polls 612 Posts
I can name a few CSers who are living proof evolution is reversible! tongue
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Mar 11, 2009 6:09 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
trish123: I listened to an interview a couple of weeks ago, it was one scientist interviewing another - one of them worked at a Creationist Museum somewhere in the states and the evolutionist asked him how he could reconcile the Bibles teachings with with accepted scientific fact - the creationist guy replied that wherever the scientific findings came into conflict with biblical teachings, they discarded the science - which just about says it all for me really.......
That's practical!doh help
















rolling on the floor laughing
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Mar 11, 2009 6:24 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Sparky55: I don't know about that. If we were all reincarnated why would the population levels keep going up.. There will never be any easy answers to these questions.


If we are reincarnated at all it may not be a human to human transference. It might be, but who’s to say. Aren’t animals living beings? What's to say that animals do not possess souls? What about plants? Aren’t they living? Humans are animals. We are part of the taxonomic family of Great Apes.
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Mar 11, 2009 7:44 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
krimsa: We did not evolve from the great apes. That is a misconception often espoused by people who don’t fully grasp the Theory of Evolution. We shared a common ancestor with chimpanzee about 6 million years ago. They went in one direction and we went in another. There would be several species in between that would go extinct. Think of it as branches on a tree. At the tip of one branch would be a chimpanzee and on the tip of another homo sapiens (us.) We both evolved into our own unique species. If we had evolved from chimp, where would chimp be today?

The Hominidaeform a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: humans, chimpanzees, gorillas, and orangutans.


yes i do understand what u are saying, in other words,if the ape had evolved to our lvl of sentece or how ever u spel it hahaha, then a perfect example of how they would look is the film planet of the apesthumbs up

and that we would of looked practically the same now as we did a few million years ago exept we might of not been able to walk totally up right, we might of had moor hair to keep warm and wouldnt know our elbow from our arses cus our brains would of been smaller, or perhaps the same size but not use a lot of it,

and becouse we still dont use a larg % of our brain do u think that leaves moor room for us to evolve further or do u think weve reached our max?
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Mar 11, 2009 7:55 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
chriss: yes i do understand what u are saying, in other words,if the ape had evolved to our lvl of sentece or how ever u spel it hahaha, then a perfect example of how they would look is the film planet of the apes

and that we would of looked practically the same now as we did a few million years ago exept we might of not been able to walk totally up right, we might of had moor hair to keep warm and wouldnt know our elbow from our arses cus our brains would of been smaller, or perhaps the same size but not use a lot of it,

and becouse we still dont use a larg % of our brain do u think that leaves moor room for us to evolve further or do u think weve reached our max?


That’s a little difficult to follow but as for your last question, yes, we are constantly evolving. Evolution never stops but it has the ability to slow down and speed up. Our Stone Age ancestors were more genetically similar to Neanderthals than they are to us, as our species has evolved 100 times faster in the past 5,000 years than at any other time in human evolution. There are far different "survival pressures" being placed on our physical bodies now than there were several thousand years ago.

Genetic data is now showing that with certain aspects of our cultures, such as diet and medicine, and also the ballooning human population, the gas pedal on the evolution of our species is literally being pushed.
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Mar 11, 2009 8:04 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
chriss
chrisschrissst.helens, Merseyside, England UK79 Threads 15 Polls 4,472 Posts
i do know that we seam to be getting taller lol,if you take a trip in to lincoln,england theres a village there leading from the catherdral that was built in the 11th centry, in the village the door ways of the houses are so much smaller than the doorways now, and even the avrage person had to bend down to stop hitting there heads, that to me would say that we seam to grow over time and become taller, also with out disease and un natual things that end life now our life span also seams to be getting longer,

if thats the case im just trying to picture how we would look in another 10 thousand years.
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Mar 11, 2009 8:21 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Yes we are continuously evolving. I can’t argue with people who want to say that some divine creatrix used biological evolution as a mechanism to create life on earth. Why not? Whatever makes people happy. But will I believe in Adam and Eve and all those tales in the bible? No.
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Mar 11, 2009 9:17 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
krimsa: If we are reincarnated at all it may not be a human to human transference. It might be, but who’s to say. Aren’t animals living beings? What's to say that animals do not possess souls? What about plants? Aren’t they living? Humans are animals. We are part of the taxonomic family of Great Apes.


Like I said earlier, There will never be any easy answers to these questions. But... Lot's of interesting argument/debate
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Mar 11, 2009 9:26 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
krimsa
krimsakrimsaMiddleton, New Hampshire USA6 Threads 2 Polls 1,345 Posts
Sparky55: Like I said earlier, There will never be any easy answers to these questions. But... Lot's of interesting argument/debate


Im not sure I understood your question and thought you were kidding?
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Mar 11, 2009 11:59 PM CST SIENCE V'S the Bible,please read befour voting
RicoWest
RicoWestRicoWestlos angeles, California USA52 Threads 1 Polls 612 Posts
krimsa: What's to say that animals do not possess souls?


Well, we know that elves and left handed people do not have souls.

krimsa: Humans are animals. We are part of the taxonomic family of Great Apes.


An association which the apes themselves deeply resent, LOL!rolling on the floor laughing
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