Did the Great Biblical Flood actually occur? (186)

StressFree: Yes, it says that in his own book. There is some truth in his work, despite what the establishment claims. The establishment can be nutheads until the truth is self evident.

I don't think you are familiar with Waddell's work. He had the ability that other's didn't...deciphering the hieroglyphics.

krimsa: Express your views and opinions on the Great Flood of Noah that is depicted in the Old Testament Bible.

pretzelman: It was recorded a thousand years before recorded in the Bible. I believe it happened...but not as stated in the Bible

ozmac: A bit of common sense and less blind faith says it all :)

Conrad73: Just not enough water for a Global Event.

krimsa: Yes. The water would have to come from outside of the atmosphere. No human could survive precipitation on the level of 6 inches a minute.

krimsa: For one thing, this statement is hardly justified and I will tell you why:

It is clear that between the end of the Bronze Age and the emergence of Classical Greece the role of women in Eastern Mediterranean cultures changed drastically. Clues to the nature of this change are to be found in the myths and legends about the people and events which "historically" took place in the period of the Bronze Age but which were written down only much later.

In the intervening period, the central portion of which constitutes the Greek "Dark Ages" (from approximately 1200 to 900 BCE), the original native populations of the Eastern Mediterranean, or Aegean, were "invaded" by Indo-European intruders who brought with them heavily patriarchal and patrilineal social structures.

Even the ancient Greeks themselves, such as Herodotus, acknowledged that the Classical Greeks were not native to Greece but, as later writers recognized them, were the product of Indo-Europeans who superimposed themselves on the indigenous non-Greek, non-Indo-European, inhabitants.

Donnelly makes it seem that Atlantis can be applied to anything. And even though Donnelly misinterpreted facts of geology, anthropology, mythology, and linguistics, the book he ended up writing had a whopping twenty-three printings. Donnelly's Atlantis interestingly sold better overseas than in his own country, the US.

Throughout Atlantis Donnelly makes numerous blanket statements of facts that could link Atlantis to almost anywhere in the world. I think that his list of points allows him to do that. By having so many ‚he is allowed to fit Atlantis into anywhere and he does so. He makes it seem that Atlantis is the cause for everything in the world, and it most certainly is not. I think that is why his book was popular when it was released; it allowed Atlantis to be anywhere and anyone could find it. He romanticized Atlantis and even if his facts were wrong it made him the second most influential writer of Atlantis after Plato.

In 1913, Frost broke tradition that Plato's story was imaginary. He believed that to find Atlantis one would have to look at it from an Egyptian's point of view because the story is originally Egyptian. Egyptians called Crete 'Keftiu' and in their history there is knowledge of the Keftians disappearing from trading. Also, when interpreting Plato's statement of Atlantis being the Pillars of Hercules, if you sail from Egypt, Crete is in front of the Pillars and the Atlantic is behind them making Crete before the Pillars of Hercules.

Frost's theory was that Minoans fell to invaders from Greece led by Mycenae. Since the Minoans were sea-faring people as the Atlantians are that was their undoing because they could not stand up to the invaders. Mycenaeans took over Crete which marked the end of the Minoans and Atlantis. The Egyptian story is there was a clash between two powerful armies two centuries after the supposed Mycenaean invasion of Crete.

The allied Asia Minor civilizations and Mycenaeans battled Egypt for sea control, but the Egyptians won. Since the Egyptians saw no difference between the Minoans and the Mycenaeans, they believe that is when Minoan Crete fell. Frost believed that Solon heard a garbled mix of these two histories to form the one that Plato eventually told.
What am I supposed to be happy about? Do you want me to be impressed with him? Hardly. He sounds like a suedo-scientist compared with K.T. Frost. That’s just my opinion though. Don’t take it personally of course. We are each entitled to give more credence to the scientists we feel warrant it.

wixomwizard: I was a eye witness to the great flood! It happened 21yrs ago in the basement of the last house I owned while I was still married. The sump pump failed and it took almost a week to get the water out of there...never did get rid of the smell though.

Dusty45: ---------
Just a bit of a bibliography for some word for word copied
comments being used as your own.

Conrad73: Norsly's Comet?

Dusty45: ---------
Just a bit of a bibliography for some word for word copied
comments being used as your own.

Dusty45: Got me Why you didn't point out the
source of the copied information when it is so important
that others on the site follow these very stringent rules.
But, you're forgiven, it's all an illusion anyway.

krimsa: I NEVER stated those were my comments. It was clear that we were BOTH using information from websites as that was part of the debate. I find that entirely different form someone (I wont say her name) who started several threads utilizing pages upon pages of blogger information that she never implied was anyone else’s work except her own.