Did the Great Biblical Flood actually occur? (186)
jessejess47: Soooooo your saying there is NO pot of gold there at the end.......
I know.
I am totally shattered.
I still believe in leprechauns so I will get their pot of gold.
Sorry back to topic.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
kitty01: Sorry back to topic.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
Well of course if the Bible were a history book there might be some point to answering why the Ark myth was put in there. As it is actually a collection of fireside folk tales it doesn't really make sense to analyse it too closely.
As for the God issue.....whole threads deal with that!
No, no, no .......
We came from evolution and apes.......
It is a fairy tale...kids story...
We came from evolution and apes.......
It is a fairy tale...kids story...
The Great Flood happened....in the Ice Age, a lot of the earth's water was locked up in the polar caps....with the thawing of global warming, that melted, and the sea level rose. The natural mountain range running under the present-day sea level between Morocco and Gibraltar served as a wall between the rising sea level and the largely empty mediterranean basin....at one point, the sea crested the wall, and the med filled with water in a deluge which lasted for 3 months and 4 days...until equilibrium was achieved...this was the great flood...it occurred locally. Many tribes, and communities were flooded and drowned...it was a great disaster...a tsunami without end...but it did occur. The Noah part was a little bit of artist's license....it was only some farmer who built a large barge and put his bloody farm animals on it....but you know what they say about a fishermen's yarn...it get's bigger with the telling...
krimsa: Express your views and opinions on the Great Flood of Noah that is depicted in the Old Testament Bible.
Lagoona22: The natural mountain range running under the present-day sea level between Morocco and Gibraltar served as a wall between the rising sea level and the largely empty mediterranean basin....
Maybe you're mistaking Black Sea to Mediterranean.
(prehistoric)
kitty01: Sorry back to topic.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
If it never happened then why put it in the bible to start with?
Don't forget god had a hand in this so anything that was needed god would have told him how to do it.
So there! Good input!!....I'm simply referring to other reference I have read...maybe there was more than one "Great Flood"!...
emannigol: Maybe you're mistaking Black Sea to Mediterranean.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory
(prehistoric)
(prehistoric)
Lagoona22: Good input!!....I'm simply referring to other reference I have read...maybe there was more than one "Great Flood"!...
There was a great flood in my bathroom once!
Galactic_bodhi: Point is, it didn't all melt at once and even if it did, global immersion would have been impossible. There's simply not enough volume to do so.
I'm sure the Native Americans thought the whole world was flooded during the Missoula deluge as well, but its all simply a matter of limited perspective.
I'm sure the Native Americans thought the whole world was flooded during the Missoula deluge as well, but its all simply a matter of limited perspective.
There is PLENTY of water - 3/4 the earth is water. We are called a water planet. Deepest depths of the ocean are deeper than the highest mountain peaks! And why do you find ocean fossils on those mountain peaks? Just re-arrange the plates a little and we'd all be under water.
Why does every single culture have it's own flood myth? It's not just the bible folks.
norslyman: There is PLENTY of water - 3/4 the earth is water. We are called a water planet. Deepest depths of the ocean are deeper than the highest mountain peaks! And why do you find ocean fossils on those mountain peaks? Just re-arrange the plates a little and we'd all be under water.
Why does every single culture have it's own flood myth? It's not just the bible folks.
Why does every single culture have it's own flood myth? It's not just the bible folks.
Good question! Why did the Sumerians have the exact same story written over a thousand years BEFORE the bible? Hrmmm.
We've also explained the seashell fossils atop mountain ranges and why this occurred like 15 times now. 
It reminds me of Christians screaming that "we didnt evolve from monkeys" and you try to clarify the details for them and they stick their fingers in their ears and sing. lalalaal. kitty01: Has anyone been able to reach the end of the rainbow to prove there is no pot of gold there?
God promised to destroy us with fire next time, at least that is what I think he said.
God promised to destroy us with fire next time, at least that is what I think he said.
Lets see, where to start. As a geologist, I am here to say that there was _no_ flood that covered all the landmass of the world whilst humans have existed. Yes, there have been instances in the history of the earth that it has been covered (see the Snowball Earth theory if interested) but there is no geologic record of anything happening like that in the past few million years.
The reason that there are so many flood stories in some histories is because there was a great flood in the eastern part of Europe as well as the northern part of Africa about the same time that the writers were scribing the Bible. Seemings as this is the area where most of the written history from that age comes from, you're going to have quite an account of it.
The reason the Christians put it as a 'Great Flood' in the bible was to do nothing but scare people into behaving in a manner that suited the church. Christianity is based on fear, and what better way to get people to act like you want than to tell them that if they misbehave they will have a vengeful God destroying everything. . . .
The reason that there are so many flood stories in some histories is because there was a great flood in the eastern part of Europe as well as the northern part of Africa about the same time that the writers were scribing the Bible. Seemings as this is the area where most of the written history from that age comes from, you're going to have quite an account of it.
The reason the Christians put it as a 'Great Flood' in the bible was to do nothing but scare people into behaving in a manner that suited the church. Christianity is based on fear, and what better way to get people to act like you want than to tell them that if they misbehave they will have a vengeful God destroying everything. . . .
ladyfingers: I STILL think they will find evidence of the ark...and the bible, being copied so many times and with so many errors...maybe it will only be a rowboat.
Actually the story is thought to of originated from the story of a Sumerian king , there is a river about 50 miles north of today’s Baghdad that floods regularly each year some years it gets really bad , on one of these particular years the king loaded a barge with his goods and wives, children ect and rode out the flood stooping at the foot of a mountain , so after he survived he sacrificed a goat and built a temple on the mountainYes, I can imagine....it was biblical in it's proportions!...
Fallingman: There was a great flood in my bathroom once!
norslyman: There is PLENTY of water - 3/4 the earth is water. We are called a water planet. Deepest depths of the ocean are deeper than the highest mountain peaks! And why do you find ocean fossils on those mountain peaks? Just re-arrange the plates a little and we'd all be under water.
According to Bible winds were drying the water, and there's no evidence of such sudden plate re-arrangement.
norslyman: Why does every single culture have it's own flood myth? It's not just the bible folks.
There are many, but you're still exaggerating. There are many different type of stories as well. If they're based on the same tradition, the're should be more similarities like in Bible and Gilgamesh.
Nobody has mentioned the comet theory yet. First brought up by Emmanuel Velivosky "Worlds in Collision" - who was ridiculed - but now his theories are gaining acceptance. This would explain sudden plate shifts, sudden mountain building, polar shifts, worldwide catasrophe in general.
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
norslyman: Nobody has mentioned the comet theory yet. First brought up by Emmanuel Velivosky "Worlds in Collision" - who was ridiculed - but now his theories are gaining acceptance. This would explain sudden plate shifts, sudden mountain building, polar shifts, worldwide catasrophe in general.
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
The name is Velikovsky - i have the book - this site about says it all on him - psuedoscientific twaddle......
Ya, thats crap. 
norslyman: Nobody has mentioned the comet theory yet. First brought up by Emmanuel Velivosky "Worlds in Collision" - who was ridiculed - but now his theories are gaining acceptance. This would explain sudden plate shifts, sudden mountain building, polar shifts, worldwide catasrophe in general.
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
Venus was once a comet that did a drive-by. It ripped off Mars atmosphere, and deposited it on earth's. 40 days would have been about the amount of time earth would have been caught in the tail of comet Venus.
If perhaps Mars was the "jumping off" point for the fallen angels (google: Cydonia Mars), this would have judged their home base and earth base at the same time!
Perhaps we have the names confused. Mars should be the Love planet (fallen angels making love with earth women) and Venus the War planet (destroying Earth).
Funny how there is no geologic evidence of such an event. . . Sudden plate shifts? Plates don't suddenly move, they take tens of millions of years to move, billions of years. And yes, this can be proven by geologic/biologic/paleontologic evidence.
norslyman: Nobody has mentioned the comet theory yet. First brought up by Emmanuel Velivosky "Worlds in Collision" - who was ridiculed - but now his theories are gaining acceptance. This would explain sudden plate shifts, sudden mountain building, polar shifts, worldwide catasrophe in general.
Here's how that story is falsified ; first law of thermodynamics.
trish123: The name is Velikovsky - i have the book - this site about says it all on him - psuedoscientific twaddle......
I too have the book and read about the first half of it when I'd had just about all I could stand. That book was written before plate techtonics were even confirmed by magnetic pole reversal evidence from core samples which mirror each other on both sides of the Mid-Atlantic ridge.
To show how far we've come, when I was in school we had some out of date textbooks which explained earthquakes by saying they were caused by the weight of skyscrapers concenrated in big cities. That will give you some insight into what was known in Velikovsky's time.
ooby_dooby: I too have the book and read about the first half of it when I'd had just about all I could stand. That book was written before plate techtonics were even confirmed by magnetic pole reversal evidence from core samples which mirror each other on both sides of the Mid-Atlantic ridge.
To show how far we've come, when I was in school we had some out of date textbooks which explained earthquakes by saying they were caused by the weight of skyscrapers concenrated in big cities. That will give you some insight into what was known in Velikovsky's time.
To show how far we've come, when I was in school we had some out of date textbooks which explained earthquakes by saying they were caused by the weight of skyscrapers concenrated in big cities. That will give you some insight into what was known in Velikovsky's time.
haha, same here, I couldnt stand it then started coming across criticisms from all over the place
krimsa: Express your views and opinions on the Great Flood of Noah that is depicted in the Old Testament Bible.
Nope,same Old Story!Water-Shortage!
crotalus_p: Actually the story is thought to of originated from the story of a Sumerian king , there is a river about 50 miles north of today’s Baghdad that floods regularly each year some years it gets really bad , on one of these particular years the king loaded a barge with his goods and wives, children ect and rode out the flood stooping at the foot of a mountain , so after he survived he sacrificed a goat and built a temple on the mountain
I know that too. Evidently I read..How about that!
A lot of the bible stories were written in different versions in different areas at a different time....
krimsa: Express your views and opinions on the Great Flood of Noah that is depicted in the Old Testament Bible.
I'd say it happened, but the story was twisted.
The flooding occurred when Atlantis went under water.
Fact...
StressFree: I'd say it happened, but the story was twisted.
The flooding occurred when Atlantis went under water.
Fact...
The flooding occurred when Atlantis went under water.
Fact...
The alleged "lost city of Atlantis" is actually Minoan Crete. Professor Marinatos was the first to suggest in 1939 that the eruption of Thera, along with the associated effects, was the cause for the catastrophe. The theory argues that the earthquakes destroyed the palaces, tsunamis obliterated the fleet and peers of the Minoans, and the volcanic ash of Thera covered the whole island destroying crops and suffocating animals.
On which island was Thera?
krimsa: The alleged "lost city of Atlantis" is actually Minoan Crete. Professor Marinatos was the first to suggest in 1939 that the eruption of Thera, along with the associated effects, was the cause for the catastrophe. The theory argues that the earthquakes destroyed the palaces, tsunamis obliterated the fleet and peers of the Minoans, and the volcanic ash of Thera covered the whole island destroying crops and suffocating animals.
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