krimsa: Express your views and opinions on the Great Flood of Noah that is depicted in the Old Testament Bible.
Now let's think about this. How much does a gallon of water weigh? Could you hold it straight out from your body for a long period? The Bible says the whole earth was flooded. How much weight would that be? Do you think that much weight would have some type of effect on the sun's gravitational pull? I think all that weight would pull us out of orbit and fling us into never, neverland.
buzzy: Now let's think about this. How much does a gallon of water weigh? Could you hold it straight out from your body for a long period? The Bible says the whole earth was flooded. How much weight would that be? Do you think that much weight would have some type of effect on the sun's gravitational pull? I think all that weight would pull us out of orbit and fling us into never, neverland.
It isnt feasible. The water would have to come from outside of the atmosphere.
BOBANBOBAN: I think i read somthin taht they discovert som parts of hes ark on the mountin Ararat
Thats another problem. The Ark...just refuses to be found. Or it's been found too many times, in completely different locations. A dozen different people claiming to have found the Ark in a dozen different places is even more embarrassing than not finding it at all.
BOBANBOBANPozarevac City, Central Serbia Serbia3,464 posts
krimsa: Thats another problem. The Ark...just refuses to be found. Or it's been found too many times, in completely different locations. A dozen different people claiming to have found the Ark in a dozen different places is even more embarrassing than not finding it at all.
More than one creationist has claimed to have "found" the Ark. Such a claim is always followed by a book, a paid lecture tour, and maybe a film, all designed to relieve the gullible of the burden of extra cash.
the Ark was supposed to be 450X75X45 cubits in size. A Cubit is about 18" long. A boat that size would displace about 1,080,000 lbs or 540 tons of water. No man or even a family using stone tools is going to fell enough trees to yield 540 tons of wood and fashion it into a boat that size which would carry a pair of every animal on the planet. Not to mention Noah would have to be one hellova boat builder to build a boat bigger than anything ever built up to that time and not have it sink from leaks or capsize the moment the rains came. Just another fairy tale. One of the more preposterous yarns at that. Anybody who believes that story obviously never cut a tree down even with a chain saw much less trimmed it and dragged it to the building site.
ooby_dooby: the Ark was supposed to be 450X75X45 cubits in size. A Cubit is about 18" long. A boat that size would displace about 1,080,000 lbs or 540 tons of water. No man or even a family using stone tools is going to fell enough trees to yield 540 tons of wood and fashion it into a boat that size which would carry a pair of every animal on the planet. Not to mention Noah would have to be one hellova boat builder to build a boat bigger than anything ever built up to that time and not have it sink from leaks or capsize the moment the rains came. Just another fairy tale. One of the more preposterous yarns at that. Anybody who believes that story obviously never cut a tree down even with a chain saw much less trimmed it and dragged it to the building site.
make that feet I already converted cubits to feet. it was 300X50X30 cubits.
krimsa: Well I wasn’t present for WW2 either but I can safely assume it occurred without me. This flood, I don’t think so but I lean towards localized.
I also tend toward localized. There is historical evidence, and archeological evidence, of flooding in the Mediterranean Sea and Black Sea areas during ancient days. I think that after that, the story was exaggerated in the telling by later generations.
JMO on this. And I don't buy the whole Noah's Ark theory. Again, I think it's a tale that was exaggerated, and no absolute proof has ever been found.
krimsa: Well I wasn’t present for WW2 either but I can safely assume it occurred without me. This flood, I don’t think so but I lean towards localized.
saw a show about it once and that is what they claimed, and they went on to say to them it was the" KNOWN" world
Subscribing to tectonic plate movement helps to argue against the evidence of seashells and various sea creature fossils found at 10,000 feet and higher elevations too, but it is kind of interesting how many of those seem to stop at very close heights all around the world...
As mentioned though there are many historical accounts of flooded areas that suffered enormous floods of very catastrophic nature and one even includes a historical link to the name Noah. I can't remember where that one was located though.
Anyway it is interesting to think about sometimes. There are other theories too, such as the ark being a spacecraft etc :) fun stuff.
Here in Oregon there is extensive evidence of a post ice-age flood from massive glacial melting in the Rocky Mountains, sending billions of gallons of water down the Columbia gorge and completely scouring the topsoil down to the bedrock. The areas east of the Cascade range are now known as "Scablands".
There were several of these floods over a period of about 10,000 years. Massive localized flooding is not unknown, nor is it documented on the side of some Native American's teepee. Guess they had no wampum to gain from telling tall tales.
As for the Ararat "Ark". It is too high to actually visit and physically investigate. All the "evidence" is completely inferred from satellite photography and could as easily be a natural geological formation as it could be some archeological evidence to corroborate the "Holy Book".
ooby_dooby: the Ark was supposed to be 450X75X45 cubits in size. A Cubit is about 18" long. A boat that size would displace about 1,080,000 lbs or 540 tons of water. No man or even a family using stone tools is going to fell enough trees to yield 540 tons of wood and fashion it into a boat that size which would carry a pair of every animal on the planet. Not to mention Noah would have to be one hellova boat builder to build a boat bigger than anything ever built up to that time and not have it sink from leaks or capsize the moment the rains came. Just another fairy tale. One of the more preposterous yarns at that. Anybody who believes that story obviously never cut a tree down even with a chain saw much less trimmed it and dragged it to the building site.
I suppose that you also believe that the pyramids are a figment of our imaginations too?
Long story short there is far to little water on the planet to even come close to a flood like the one described in the bible
The Bible: Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house.
ladyfingers: I suppose that you also believe that the pyramids are a figment of our imaginations too?
The big difference being the pyramids where built , Noah’s ark was not , Noah’s ark being built is implausible , the building of the pyramids was an extremely drawn out process that involved some spectacular engineering work and resourcefulness ,
krimsa: That’s like comparing the Empire State building with a UFO spacecraft.
Not true , we do not know the limitations of other form’s of life from a different planet , so we can say that it is plausible that other life forms from a different planet can build a space craft , we do however know the limitations of man threw out history , so we can say with certainty that the bibles account of the building of the ark is false and implausible
crotalus_p: Long story short there is far to little water on the planet to even come close to a flood like the one described in the bible The Bible: Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house.
crotalus_p: Long story short there is far to little water on the planet to even come close to a flood like the one described in the bible The Bible: Because all the works of science cannot equal the wisdom of cattle-sacrificing primitives who thought every animal species in the world lived within walking distance of Noah's house.
I think the bible account on Noah made the short story long.
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