I was looking to start a site called Change you can measure to get my liberal friends to start working with facts instead of feelings. We elected a president with no experience. How do we measure whether or not we were right?
Alfalfa: I was looking to start a site called Change you can measure to get my liberal friends to start working with facts instead of feelings. We elected a president with no experience. How do we measure whether or not we were right?
I heard some news today on abc news radio that claimed the bleeding has stopped there were no new hirings yet there were no new layoffs. If you think this new president can just sprinkle fairy dust and things will be better then you need to seriously get real. The damage took eight years to create, give the man some space to work and get things done, condemnation sure comes quick to some people, how about instead of being negative lets be positive and try to help him achive his goals because by his goals being achieved aren't we achieving our own. The goals of I told you so will get you where? Only positive thinking and a can do attitude will bring this country back around
romanticman4u: I heard some news today on abc news radio that claimed the bleeding has stopped there were no new hirings yet there were no new layoffs. If you think this new president can just sprinkle fairy dust and things will be better then you need to seriously get real. The damage took eight years to create, give the man some space to work and get things done, condemnation sure comes quick to some people, how about instead of being negative lets be positive and try to help him achive his goals because by his goals being achieved aren't we achieving our own. The goals of I told you so will get you where? Only positive thinking and a can do attitude will bring this country back around
I am wondering if those are feelings or facts...
I would love for you to explain how what Obummer is doing is going to help??????????
Hey OP, Conrad, do either of you see any of the savior's facts in this thread yet? well this is only day 2, we can't just judge them already..It's still too early..
You really presume much! Why is it that you LEFTIES,dude included,automatically believe if one doesn't agree with "The One That Walks On Water" one has to be a Republican! Some more of that One Dimensional Leftist thinking I guess. Just hope you will like the Life you have to lead in the "Society you're helping to create!
Conrad73: You really presume much! Why is it that you LEFTIES,dude included,automatically believe if one doesn't agree with "The One That Walks On Water" one has to be a Republican! Some more of that One Dimensional Leftist thinking I guess. Just hope you will like the Life you have to lead in the "Society you're helping to create!
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
Conrad73: You really presume much! Why is it that you LEFTIES,dude included,automatically believe if one doesn't agree with "The One That Walks On Water" one has to be a Republican! Some more of that One Dimensional Leftist thinking I guess. Just hope you will like the Life you have to lead in the "Society you're helping to create!
Don't even rise to the bait Conrad...isn't even worth the fonts
Hey there's a lot of people on here not even worth a few fonts...lets make a list
The early polling here has over 1/3 voting ...to NEVER hold Obama accountable.
I would like to see some rationale for that position, please?
First in light, he said he would run a 'transparent administration'...which has something to do with accountability.
Second, because on my desk is a political book to be read by Tavi Smiley on Obama....called "Accountable, Making America as Good as Its Promise"
by the way this book has high praise both former President Clinton and Newt Grinrich. So seems to be written with some objectivity.
But the book has different scales for judgeing President Obama and his administration to meeting campaign promises and being accountable to teh country for making them.
Lastly, considering for 8 year DEMs and Liberals have held former President Bush's feet to the fire regarding accountability. Why does President Obama get a free pass around the fire pit and GWB gets spears holding him to the fire pit?
RobbieMHertford, Hertfordshire, England UK4,553 posts
newlife09: How was your break, Robbie? Enjoy your time off?
Definitely, got my tax return done!!!! There's only so much accountancy a grown man can take when having to retype a whole years invoices and receipts onto a computer system.
I hate corrupted computer filesBut i have a feeling my stay will be brief....there isn't much to be entertained by!
newlife09: I don't think he gets a free pass...just a coefficient given the mess he was handed when he took over.
Mind you, at this point in Dubya's first term, he had already taken a month's vacation.
Seriously...given the recession/layoffs/markets/etc, painting him to solve this in 100 days is quite unrealistic for any president of any party.
This is a question that is being asked in REP circles by the way. I heard it on Huckabee's show a few nights ago.
Traditionally and historically, it was 100 days of no real politicing or criticism.
I kind of think that the Obama Administration and DEM knew most REP would give them the 100 days.
So?
Did TARPII so that if REP opposition gathered, they could say....those REP not giving us our 100 days.
I not sure if 'painting' him is the right word. One can make honest and critical assessments that are objective. They improve both the majority party and show the minority party to be intelligent and working for the countries good.
They are a heck of way to bridge across the aisle between governing parties.
Sure here in CS, we are a wee bit more passioned...so they may seem to paint...but even here they are way to see the other side opinion and position.
By the way newlife.....one reason TARPII has not worked so far. They have only spent 5% of the 767b. Only 5%. I think I know why. It has to do with the Chinese T-Bills and the bank stress tests. Yet President Obama said recently were are broke...in deep deficit. And if the economic crisis is so bad, why are they holding onto the TARPII funds? So what gives?
If I have a bank account of $765b, I am not broke. And if I have a economy in finanical crisis because of liquity, I am not holding onto funds. But I don't give the world misleading and confusing statements. Because there one cause confidence lose.
When we (REP) see conflicting statements like these......and conflicting actions.....we get very nervous. And yes then we want to see both accountability and transperancy.
romanticman4u: I heard some news today on abc news radio that claimed the bleeding has stopped there were no new hirings yet there were no new layoffs. If you think this new president can just sprinkle fairy dust and things will be better then you need to seriously get real. The damage took eight years to create, give the man some space to work and get things done, condemnation sure comes quick to some people, how about instead of being negative lets be positive and try to help him achive his goals because by his goals being achieved aren't we achieving our own. The goals of I told you so will get you where? Only positive thinking and a can do attitude will bring this country back around
Off topic a bit, but wanted your opinion of the movie, The Fountainhead" with Gary Cooper. I saw it last week and thought it was incredible.
I am asking you because I know you are an Ayn Rand fan.....
I saw it some years ago,but sadly,it doesn't do the Book much Justice.It is probably next to impossible to condense a Book like "The Fountainhead" into a Movie. There is some good acting in it,but I would really like for someone to produce a Miniseries of it.
mbcaseyNorth Myrtle Beach, South Carolina USA16,449 posts
Conrad73: I saw it some years ago,but sadly,it doesn't do the Book much Justice.It is probably next to impossible to condense a Book like "The Fountainhead" into a Movie. There is some good acting in it,but I would really like for someone to produce a Miniseries of it.
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