911 (93)

Oct 17, 2009 11:41 PM CST 911
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Antjo39: Occam´s razor? Another one that wants to start a discussion of the logics behind arguments?
I will be happy you accept my invitation. WE will have our audience for sure. Come on bebe.
No, an argument about what facts, taken as a whole, constitute the TRUTH-something that many on the left can't seem to handle.laugh
Oct 17, 2009 11:41 PM CST 911
BebeII
BebeIIBebeIIConcordville, Pennsylvania USA23 Threads 1,965 Posts
Antjo39: Why don´t you gather the good guys thinking like you and start shooting them all in their beds??
This is in order to delete any inside-job.
Any Arabic face, any Muslim person, is suspicious, right?
Democracy and free world will be thankful with the heros of a decadent time.

Lack of courage?
You said it, not me, but then lefty's are always projecting....rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 19, 2009 9:49 AM CST 911
hankjr5362
hankjr5362hankjr5362New Castle, Pennsylvania USA1 Threads 1 Polls 151 Posts
pastortim: For argument sake:
The White House told the Air Force to stand down when the planes were headed for the twin towers and the Pentagon.
Police and firemen heard and seen explosions going up the sides of the building, which were caught on video as well.
Specialists have noted that such a building to fall from any impact would have fell in any direction, not straight down thus it was a demolition.
Blair was contacted minutes before the attack and never warned anyone.
The FBI was also told of the attack and did nothing.
The Bank of America had 100 billion dollars stolen out it before the first plane rammed straight into the bank on that level of the twin towers. Buildings fell, evidence of the bank robbery was destroyed.
The Twin towers had 200 million pounds of vermiculite which causes cancer and had to be torn down anyway, which would cost billions and thus blowing up the buildings solved the problem and the insurance was collected instead.
The fires from the burning debris from the fallen towers burned for weeks, which by studies showed that a compound was found that is not found in building structures nor in planes, when it is put on steel it turns into molten steel and thus such evidence was also seen on video footage of the molten steel running out of the building before it fell. This had to be planted.
Bush was notified the instant the event took place from the first plane hitting the towers and acted is nothing had happened as he was in a school at the time and didn't leave for some time after.
The Patriot missile system on the nearby base which is part of the National Missile Defense System (3rd stage) was not manned or activated, even after the first plane hit and others were spotted on radar heading the same direction. They were also told to stand down.
There is a ton more evidence that leads right back to the Government, but I think this should do it.
Now, what part of this doesn't say "inside job"?
Did it ever occur to you that the extremists could have easily planted explosives inside the building several weeks or months in advance. These scumbags are well organized and because of our lackadaisicall approach towards security, it wouldn't be that difficult to accomplish. THERE !! Now i've given you "conspiracy jerks" a whole new paranoid theory to play with. Have Fun !!!
Oct 21, 2009 2:05 AM CST 911
pastortim
pastortimpastortimAland, Aland Islands Finland32 Threads 29 Polls 243 Posts
More proof 911 was an inside job.

Read and watch the video.
Oct 21, 2009 10:22 AM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
BebeII: You said it, not me, but then lefty's are always projecting....


Most "9/11 Truthers" are not lefties - they're as critical of Obama as they were/are of Bush. I'm neither left nor right myself. Just libertarian. blushing
Oct 21, 2009 10:27 AM CST 911
hankjr5362: Did it ever occur to you that the extremists could have easily planted explosives inside the building several weeks or months in advance. These scumbags are well organized and because of our lackadaisicall approach towards security, it wouldn't be that difficult to accomplish. THERE !! Now i've given you "conspiracy jerks" a whole new paranoid theory to play with. Have Fun !!!
Its a noisy dirty business to prepare a Building for Takedown with Explosives!
Oct 21, 2009 10:30 AM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Conrad73: Here is the reason why he is not on the list for 9/11!Usama bin laden.jpg Usama Bin Laden June 7, 1999 #456
Usama Bin Laden is the leader of al-Qaeda and is wanted in connection with the August 7, 1998, bombings of the United States embassies, Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, and Nairobi, Kenya. These attacks killed over 200 people. Bin Laden and al-Qaeda are responsible for the October 12, 2000, attack on the USS Cole off the coast of Yemen, which killed 17. Although bin Laden later appeared on the first publicly released FBI Most Wanted Terrorists list on October 10, 2001, he was listed there for the 1998 embassy attack, and not for his alleged role in the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks that killed nearly 3,000 people, because the most wanted lists name fugitives charged with a crime by a prosecutor or under indictment by a grand jury. Bin Laden was named as an "unindicted co-conspirator" in, for instance, the federal indictment against convicted terrorist Zacarias Moussaoui, but has not been formally indicted for his role in the September 11, 2001, attacks.

Osama bin Laden is the subject of a $50 million reward through the State Department's Rewards for Justice program targeting international fugitives, especially terrorists, plus $2 million through a program developed and funded by the Air Line Pilots Association and the Air Transport Association.WIKI


The jist of that seems to be that Bin Laden isn't wanted for the crimes committed on 9/11, Conrad. I'm not sure what you think refutes that in the above...confused I know he's wanted for other crimes.
Oct 21, 2009 10:31 AM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: The jist gist of that seems to be that Bin Laden isn't wanted for the crimes committed on 9/11, Conrad. I'm not sure what you think refutes that in the above... I know he's wanted for other crimes.


dunno roll eyes
Oct 21, 2009 10:32 AM CST 911
alexey8
alexey8alexey8Tel Aviv, Israel10 Threads 4 Polls 1,496 Posts
Has ANYONE actually seen a set demolition???? Does anyone know it is done? If you do, you would see how it would be impossible for anyone to have set demolition in the twin towers without ever being noticed. People who do set demolitions have even explained how it would be impossible, because for buildings that big, with that many pillars you would need a lot of time, and also about 100 men for the job (to get it done in a short time frame). So, it would be impossible to get all of these works secretly into the building, and begin cut away at the pillars and then setting demo charges, without anyone noticing. doh
Oct 21, 2009 10:56 AM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Very little has been made of the fact that two floors
high up in at least on of the towers were shut down
the weekend before 9/11. Companies on those floors had
to shut down all their computer systems and re-start them
the following Monday. No mention of it at all in any report,
not only that, but when questioned, the Port Authority
denied it. Why would they do that?

But I do wonder, would not the towers being hit by two
aircraft be seen as a great success for any terrorist
organisation. Why would any government take the considerable
risk of planting explosives just to ensure the buildings
came down?

Just using a bit of logic...thats all.
Oct 21, 2009 11:02 AM CST 911
alexey8: Has ANYONE actually seen a set demolition???? Does anyone know it is done? If you do, you would see how it would be impossible for anyone to have set demolition in the twin towers without ever being noticed. People who do set demolitions have even explained how it would be impossible, because for buildings that big, with that many pillars you would need a lot of time, and also about 100 men for the job (to get it done in a short time frame). So, it would be impossible to get all of these works secretly into the building, and begin cut away at the pillars and then setting demo charges, without anyone noticing.
Been trying to tell that to sundry People over and over!grin
The Building needs to be weakened,regardless of what kind of Explosive,or Pyrotechnics(Thermite) you use.conversing
Oct 21, 2009 11:06 AM CST 911
bodleing: Very little has been made of the fact that two floors
high up in at least on of the towers were shut down
the weekend before 9/11. Companies on those floors had
to shut down all their computer systems and re-start them
the following Monday. No mention of it at all in any report,
not only that, but when questioned, the Port Authority
denied it. Why would they do that?

But I do wonder, would not the towers being hit by two
aircraft be seen as a great success for any terrorist
organisation. Why would any government take the considerable
risk of planting explosives just to ensure the buildings
came down?

Just using a bit of logic...thats all.
Unless you do considerable preparation on the Girders and Concrete-Columns of the Building,you'd need an ungodly amount of Explosives to bring it down,and even then you might be unsuccessful.
One weekend would be way too short for that kind of work to be carried out!conversing
Oct 21, 2009 11:07 AM CST 911
Ambrose2007: The jist of that seems to be that Bin Laden isn't wanted for the crimes committed on 9/11, Conrad. I'm not sure what you think refutes that in the above... I know he's wanted for other crimes.
Not trying to refute anything,just amplifying!grin
Oct 21, 2009 11:10 AM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Conrad73: Unless you do considerable preparation on the Girders and Concrete-Columns of the Building,you'd need an ungodly amount of Explosives to bring it down,and even then you might be unsuccessful.
One weekend would be way too short for that kind of work to be carried out!


I know Conrad, it just seems strange that the Port Authority
denied this had happened.dunno

But like I said...why bother to carry out such a risky exercise
anyway. Surely just hiting the towers would be enough.
Oct 21, 2009 11:20 AM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
bodleing: I know Conrad, it just seems strange that the Port Authority
denied this had happened.

But like I said...why bother to carry out such a risky exercise
anyway. Surely just hiting the towers would be enough.


Depends what you're trying to accomplish, G. If I were wanting a powerful rationale for invading other countries, for in effect declaring war - not to mention scraping the US Constitution - then I'd be wondering if a couple of plane crashes into buildings and a relatively small number of casualties would be "enough."dunno hmmm
Oct 21, 2009 12:41 PM CST 911
Laura25
Laura25Laura25Somewhere, New York USA50 Threads 6 Polls 8,178 Posts
RobertC2: From your previous thread I'd have thought you'd have blamed Israel!


rolling on the floor laughing

he didn't realized it was about Israel grin

Without reading the entire thread, I can guess that his opinion varies as thread goes on...

Conrad73: Those arguments have been made here over and over!
It is starting to get tiresome!


thumbs up



Englishman55: I think it was the famous English politician who once said.....
"There are lies, there are damn lies and then there are statistics"

Statistics can be made to back up any argument you want them too.

Evidence gathered after an event can be tailored in much the same way as statistics to back up a conspiracy theory.


Funny how there is always a conspiacy theory for any major event... Kenedy's assasination.... Dianna's death and now 911.

Look at all the facts and arguments..... don't just pick the ones that suit your theory.

Alternatively.... go into politics !


And many tales are being woven...

What's the purpose of arguing over fabrications?

We won't know the truth any time soon.
Oct 21, 2009 1:51 PM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Ambrose2007: Depends what you're trying to accomplish, G. If I were wanting a powerful rationale for invading other countries, for in effect declaring war - not to mention scraping the US Constitution - then I'd be wondering if a couple of plane crashes into buildings and a relatively small number of casualties would be "enough."


Its a sickening thought J, but let me get this straight.
Are you saying that 'the powers that be' organised the
hijacking of the planes, planted explosives in the twin
towers in order to justify invading Iraq and subsequently
bring in draconian powers?

It would make a good novel... but would it be filed under fiction?


dunno
Oct 21, 2009 2:05 PM CST 911
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
to anyone that thinks the government was behind 9/11. you are nuts. and i don't like the USA government at all. i say to you. put down the bong. go outside smell some fresh air.
Oct 21, 2009 2:10 PM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
ukrainegary48: to anyone that thinks the government was behind 9/11. you are nuts. and i don't like the USA government at all. i say to you. put down the bong. go outside smell some fresh air.


There are a few discrepancies in the official line
that need explaining though.

Dont you think?
Oct 21, 2009 2:28 PM CST 911
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
bodleing: There are a few discrepancies in the official line
that need explaining though.

Dont you think?
know i dont think so. i,m not looking to come up with excuses with the twin towers did not fall a certain way. they fell. how do you people come up with these crazy ideas.
Oct 21, 2009 2:31 PM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
ukrainegary48: know i dont think so. i,m not looking to come up with excuses with the twin towers did not fall a certain way. they fell. how do you people come up with these crazy ideas.


Which people???

You've not been paying attention, have you!!!


sigh
Oct 21, 2009 2:32 PM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
bodleing: Which people???

You've not been paying attention, have you!!!


It's so hard to focus on what crazy people are saying sometimes, don't you, find, G?blushing grin
Oct 21, 2009 2:36 PM CST 911
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
the crazy folks are the ones who think the government was behind 9/11. and i hated bush. but come on people . put down the bong.
Oct 21, 2009 2:38 PM CST 911
bodleing
bodleingbodleingGreater Manchester, England UK238 Threads 8 Polls 13,810 Posts
Ambrose2007: It's so hard to focus on what crazy people are saying sometimes, don't you, find, G?


Well I'm not here to guide them round the thread.grin


cheers
Oct 21, 2009 2:38 PM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
ukrainegary48: the crazy folks are the ones who think the government was behind 9/11. and i hated bush. but come on people . put down the bong.


They're crazy for thinking the government was behing 9/11 or because they think you hated Bush?confused
Oct 21, 2009 2:39 PM CST 911
Ambrose2007
Ambrose2007Ambrose2007BFE, South Dakota USA67 Threads 10 Polls 8,881 Posts
Ambrose2007: They're crazy for thinking the government was behindg 9/11 or because they think you hated Bush?


roll eyes Man, I seem to be the surfer king of typos today...dunno
Oct 21, 2009 2:39 PM CST 911
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
i did hate bush and still do.
Oct 21, 2009 3:02 PM CST 911
So now that the Towers are a No-Go,we switch to the Pentagon?
OF!rolling on the floor laughing
Oct 21, 2009 3:04 PM CST 911
Conrad73: So now that the Towers are a No-Go,we switch to the Pentagon?
OF!
Little bit of this,little bit of that!scold
Oct 21, 2009 3:14 PM CST 911
ukrainegary48
ukrainegary48ukrainegary48Donetsk, Uzbekistan63 Threads 1,113 Posts
Conrad73: So now that the Towers are a No-Go,we switch to the Pentagon?
OF!
hey Conrad, the world is coming to an end. we agree on something.
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