do u tink people should be excutied for smuggleing drugs? (238)
LostrebelHeuvelton, New York USA9 Threads 661 Postskev86: isnt there enough killing going on in this world with out the goverment adding 2 it
they are the ones killing the most and the people only ADD to it....
Lostrebel: I said this in an earlier post and a few others that have pasted the hallowed pages of CS....prohibition DOES NOT WORK....thats how I see it ...and as long as there are people ,there will be drugs ...the monies would be better spent on education rather than prevention ...but as they say here in CS land ..JMHO
Prohibition caused a pretty lucrative black market for you lot in the thirties which created more problems than it cured - that govenments didnt learn from that example makes me wonder if they depend on the black market economy more than we realise - its either that or some pretty influential people are creaming profits somewhere along the line.....
Hiya Dave by the way
trish123: Prohibition caused a pretty lucrative black market for you lot in the thirties which created more problems than it cured - that govenments didnt learn from that example makes me wonder if they depend on the black market economy more than we realise - its either that or some pretty influential people are creaming profits somewhere along the line.....
Hiya Dave by the way
Exactly...prohibition is one thing ..but killing people for crimes is another....my position is there are lots and lots of people in this world that NEED killing ....but in the courts it seems they would see that a MISTAKE could easily be made and how would one undue a death...if you put them in prison then you can let them go ...sure they lost a few years but they are still alive....I just don't get it I suppose. and hi back at ya Trish..Hiya Dave by the way
FOR ALL THE DO-GOODERS SELF RIGHTEOUS HOLLIER THAN THOU, fair enough, don't kill a potential murderer through the lack of knowledge, welcome him to your home.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
kiwi69: FOR ALL THE DO-GOODERS SELF RIGHTEOUS HOLLIER THAN THOU, fair enough, don't kill a potential murderer through the lack of knowledge, welcome him to your home.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
See it is not a China issue or USA issue....some states have the death sentance here....it is a personal thing for me ....I do not believe in killing as a punishment to crime...does not mean they should go unpunished...in fact I personally would think life in prison maybe worst than death...but again this is only my thinking ...What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
I agree with the scout master
Lostrebel: not having the death sentance garranties only one thing ,but this one thing is very important.....NO death sentance...No one is put to death wrongly.......this alone I think should be enough ,but it seems some do not care if people are put to death wrongly......
100% agree, if George Bush was put to death by means of hanging as was Sudam then maybe world leaders would learn a thing or two.
You'll have to educate me on this one because I'm a little unsure, did they find drugs(YES) DID THEY FIND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (NO),
kiwi69: 100% agree, if George Bush was put to death by means of hanging as was Sudam then maybe world leaders would learn a thing or two.
You'll have to educate me on this one because I'm a little unsure, did they find drugs(YES) DID THEY FIND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (NO),
thats another thread....lets not got there here....You'll have to educate me on this one because I'm a little unsure, did they find drugs(YES) DID THEY FIND WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION (NO),
If you visit foreign countries then abide by their laws its that simple and they always use the easy cop out of mental illness. As one person in china said if chinese people get exicuted for this then why sould foreigners not and I agree with him.
craig63: If you visit foreign countries then abide by their laws its that simple and they always use the easy cop out of mental illness. As one person in china said if chinese people get exicuted for this then why sould foreigners not and I agree with him.
Let's be honest here. China aren't known for their human rights and there's a lot of folks wandering around in the west with second hand kidneys and the like and they are not too bothered where they came from and how they were obtained.
I think China were just sending a message out to the rest of the world to say," Don't even think about bringing drugs in here."
kiwi69: FOR ALL THE DO-GOODERS SELF RIGHTEOUS HOLLIER THAN THOU, fair enough, don't kill a potential murderer through the lack of knowledge, welcome him to your home.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
Why on earth would we want to invite a heroin smuggler into our homes, thats just asking for trouble but theres a big difference between not wanting them in our homes or as part of our lives and condoning them being killed.
The rehab facilities in the uk are atrocious and heroin isnt something you can just stop using because you feel like it one sunny morning - maybe if governments put more money into lessening the demand than they do into bombing the producers, the problem may just begin to lessen.......
Godsgift: Let's be honest here. China aren't known for their human rights and there's a lot of folks wandering around in the west with second hand kidneys and the like and they are not too bothered where they came from and how they were obtained.
I think China were just sending a message out to the rest of the world to say," Don't even think about bringing drugs in here."
I am sure your right about China and a message to the world......but come on, you and I and everyone else knows that this is not going to stop the drug trade in China or anywhere else....do they have the right to govern thier lands as they see fit....I think they do...I just don't agree with the way they do it is all.....there are a lot of things that this country does that the world does not agree with ,but it is not going to change.....they all do as they see fit...I think China were just sending a message out to the rest of the world to say," Don't even think about bringing drugs in here."
kiwi69: FOR ALL THE DO-GOODERS SELF RIGHTEOUS HOLLIER THAN THOU, fair enough, don't kill a potential murderer through the lack of knowledge, welcome him to your home.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
What is your reasoning to say why a foreigner deserves better treatment, if that scum bag landed and got thru customs then he'd cause more hurt/pain and suffering than 9/11.
What is exactly the problem- USA executes people but less openly, China have the balls to act within their own constitution sovereignty and people all of a sudden act hypocritically.
I am no do gooder, but this execution was, as Trish said, barbaric, I have no qualms about China executing people for such crimes, but only when it is shown beyond doubt that the crime was committed in full knowledge of the perpetrator, The facts around this particular case show that the guy was mentally unstable, he could very well have not understood what a crazy thing to do in carrying a parcel for someone else.
China would have been far better to have deported him and requested the British Justice system prosecuted him, maybe he would have been put in an institution, better that than the anguish his family now have to suffer.
China is tough on Crime, but only WHEN IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GOVERNMENT
Lostrebel: no biggy I still on the coffee here ....but do enjoy....
Serious question, do you think Obama is a breath of fresh air for the USA, I've heard comments that he's only a 'community leader' he's doesn't deserve the noble peace prize etc etc, I personally think he's all of the above and he's not the most unapproachable man which is cool.
rizlared: I am no do gooder, but this execution was, as Trish said, barbaric, I have no qualms about China executing people for such crimes, but only when it is shown beyond doubt that the crime was committed in full knowledge of the perpetrator, The facts around this particular case show that the guy was mentally unstable, he could very well have not understood what a crazy thing to do in carrying a parcel for someone else.
China would have been far better to have deported him and requested the British Justice system prosecuted him, maybe he would have been put in an institution, better that than the anguish his family now have to suffer.
China is tough on Crime, but only WHEN IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GOVERNMENT
the last part sounds pretty much like ANY goverment...China would have been far better to have deported him and requested the British Justice system prosecuted him, maybe he would have been put in an institution, better that than the anguish his family now have to suffer.
China is tough on Crime, but only WHEN IT DOES NOT AFFECT THE GOVERNMENT
Lostrebel: I am sure your right about China and a message to the world......but come on, you and I and everyone else knows that this is not going to stop the drug trade in China or anywhere else....do they have the right to govern thier lands as they see fit....I think they do...I just don't agree with the way they do it is all.....there are a lot of things that this country does that the world does not agree with ,but it is not going to change.....they all do as they see fit...
Oh, I'm totally against the death penalty but my notion is that China operates more by martial law than civil law and that they want us all to know that. I believe this is the first execution of a westerner since the 50s which is why they wanted to reinforce the message as China emerges into one of the great ecconomies. I tghink we would agree that prosperity and drug use are linked.
Other than that, I must confess to being totally uneducated about the drug scene in China.
kiwi69: Serious question, do you think Obama is a breath of fresh air for the USA, I've heard comments that he's only a 'community leader' he's doesn't deserve the noble peace prize etc etc, I personally think he's all of the above and he's not the most unapproachable man which is cool.
honestly I really do not know ....he is however NOT the do all win all and he surely does NOT have all the answers....but to be fair I don't think anyone has all the answers eather....time will tell....personally I think he is just like the rest and he really hookwinked the the minorites and the young folks of this country...however he is my Pres. and I will support him untill he leaves office....more people said yes 2 execuitn ,,,all he done was smuggle a few kgz that just shows people are ruthless ,,,,, hell as it is on earth ,,,,,, and theres me tinkn use were a good church goin floks
sec 1 part 4 .... and we 4give those who tresspass against us but deliver us from evil amen
that just shows people are ruthless ,,,,, hell as it is on earth ,,,,,, and theres me tinkn use were a good church goin floks sec 1 part 4 .... and we 4give those who tresspass against us but deliver us from evil amen As for this being a deterrent, well this is from a China Daily paper today.
"Courts across China handled 14,282 drug-related cases from January to May, up 12 percent over the same period last year. In these cases, 6,379 people were convicted and received severe penalties ranging from five years in jail to a death sentence."
I rest my case
"Courts across China handled 14,282 drug-related cases from January to May, up 12 percent over the same period last year. In these cases, 6,379 people were convicted and received severe penalties ranging from five years in jail to a death sentence."
I rest my case
trish123: Why on earth would we want to invite a heroin smuggler into our homes, thats just asking for trouble but theres a big difference between not wanting them in our homes or as part of our lives and condoning them being killed.
The rehab facilities in the uk are atrocious and heroin isnt something you can just stop using because you feel like it one sunny morning - maybe if governments put more money into lessening the demand than they do into bombing the producers, the problem may just begin to lessen.......
The rehab facilities in the uk are atrocious and heroin isnt something you can just stop using because you feel like it one sunny morning - maybe if governments put more money into lessening the demand than they do into bombing the producers, the problem may just begin to lessen.......
Absolutely brilliant and wise I might add, heres an idea which I'm pretty sure Browne would agree especially concerning relations between China and the UK, 'Let's make things happen and we'll see who buckles first and there is nothing you can do about it, all round eyes look the same' lol lol lol
Wakey wakey, xxx
Godsgift: Oh, I'm totally against the death penalty but my notion is that China operates more by martial law than civil law and that they want us all to know that. I believe this is the first execution of a westerner since the 50s which is why they wanted to reinforce the message as China emerges into one of the great ecconomies. I tghink we would agree that prosperity and drug use are linked.
Other than that, I must confess to being totally uneducated about the drug scene in China.
I agree as well...and I know very little about the drug trade there or anywhere for that matter....but I do not believe that death is the answer however...the message China is sending to the world is not the one that they wanted I think tho...Other than that, I must confess to being totally uneducated about the drug scene in China.
Lostrebel: I agree as well...and I know very little about the drug trade there or anywhere for that matter....but I do not believe that death is the answer however...the message China is sending to the world is not the one that they wanted I think tho...
The message China is trying to put across here is that they will not be told by an outside element how to run their Justice system, they are not, however, addressing any of the problems relating to the lack of evidence, they say he showed no sign of mental health, yet refused to allow any medical records sent from the UK.
Only one China paper has reported this, and that is a student underground one, to me that speaks volumes
rizlared: As for this being a deterrent, well this is from a China Daily paper today.
"Courts across China handled 14,282 drug-related cases from January to May, up 12 percent over the same period last year. In these cases, 6,379 people were convicted and received severe penalties ranging from five years in jail to a death sentence."I rest my case
"Courts across China handled 14,282 drug-related cases from January to May, up 12 percent over the same period last year. In these cases, 6,379 people were convicted and received severe penalties ranging from five years in jail to a death sentence."I rest my case
I take it your not Chinese then? Since your intelligent and obviousely expected to be treated differently- WHY, do you respect Chinese law? If not- WHY?
rizlared: The message China is trying to put across here is that they will not be told by an outside element how to run their Justice system, they are not, however, addressing any of the problems relating to the lack of evidence, they say he showed no sign of mental health, yet refused to allow any medical records sent from the UK.
Only one China paper has reported this, and that is a student underground one, to me that speaks volumes
well thats my point really....they are being looked at as you and I see them ...not how they wished to be seen....Only one China paper has reported this, and that is a student underground one, to me that speaks volumes
kev86: more people said yes 2 execuitn ,,,all he done was smuggle a few kgz that just shows people are ruthless ,,,,, hell as it is on earth ,,,,,, and theres me tinkn use were a good church goin floks sec 1 part 4 .... and we 4give those who tresspass against us but deliver us from evil amen
You say ALL he has done, heroin wrecks lives and kills people, and effects those around them.Although i feel in this case his mental health should have been investigated, and taken into account.
But people who do this knowingly, know the risks they are taking if death is the penalty for smuggling drugs into that country, then it is their responsibilty
rizlared: The message China is trying to put across here is that they will not be told by an outside element how to run their Justice system, they are not, however, addressing any of the problems relating to the lack of evidence, they say he showed no sign of mental health, yet refused to allow any medical records sent from the UK.
Only one China paper has reported this, and that is a student underground one, to me that speaks volumes
Only one China paper has reported this, and that is a student underground one, to me that speaks volumes
Take care Riz - dont say anything that could be picked up by spy programes which I believe they have there to suppress free speech.....
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