do u tink people should be excutied for smuggleing drugs? (238)
morgan5chelmsford, Essex, England UK87 Threads 8,237 PostsI lived in a Muslim country for 4yrs, (my choice) and always saw myself as a guest in that country and lived by their laws and customs. If I knowingly had broken the law why should i have been treated any differently to a native of that country??
morgan5: I lived in a Muslim country for 4yrs, (my choice) and always saw myself as a guest in that country and lived by their laws and customs. If I knowingly had broken the law why should i have been treated any differently to a native of that country??
Very good point Morgan.
morgan5: I lived in a Muslim country for 4yrs, (my choice) and always saw myself as a guest in that country and lived by their laws and customs. If I knowingly had broken the law why should i have been treated any differently to a native of that country??
Hi Morgan.
Completely agree.
vinny1967: How is it out of context ?
I understand there are other factors involved in crime rate.
Again I asked you for evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent as I am not going to go on your say so...........ta anyway.
Have a look at these stats as they support the view that it is not a deterrent.
I do agree that people should be punished for their crimes, I just dont agree with the death penalty as its inhumane and degrading our society. I certainly dont agree with punishment in kind.
as for your last paragraph I would advocate that you receive full life imprisonment without parole and not the death penalty for your crimes if you were caught.......
I understand there are other factors involved in crime rate.
Again I asked you for evidence that the death penalty is a deterrent as I am not going to go on your say so...........ta anyway.
Have a look at these stats as they support the view that it is not a deterrent.
I do agree that people should be punished for their crimes, I just dont agree with the death penalty as its inhumane and degrading our society. I certainly dont agree with punishment in kind.
as for your last paragraph I would advocate that you receive full life imprisonment without parole and not the death penalty for your crimes if you were caught.......
Your argument that the death penalty does not deter murder and should be scrapped doesn't hold mate. With the same line of reasoning, let's close all jails and not imprison anyone who commits crime, after all the existence of jails doesn't deter crime does it? Answer me that please, since I notice that the pc brigade has so far failed to come up with a counter.
How is the death penalty inhumane and degrading? That's just your view, others don't agree with it. I see it degrading on the victim to see a murderer go out scot free after spending 10 years in prison, free to rebuild his life and go on as if nothing had happened.
You're using an article from amnestyusa to back your argument? Yes this organization is so impartial and unbiased isn't it? It's like asking a greenpeace activist and a texas oiler if the global warming phenomenon is real or not and not expecting any bias from the two!
As for your last paragraph, at least I'm honest in how I'd feel were one of my family a victim in this case. I sincerely doubt you'd try to reason with the criminal if one of your family was a victim. Then again, the pc brigade isn't renowned for logic..
wulfen: Your argument that the death penalty does not deter murder and should be scrapped doesn't hold mate. With the same line of reasoning, let's close all jails and not imprison anyone who commits crime, after all the existence of jails doesn't deter crime does it? Answer me that please, since I notice that the pc brigade has so far failed to come up with a counter.
How is that the same line of reasoning ? People who break the law need to be punished. Our society does not advertise jails for deterrence. They actually incarcerate them and rightly so.
In response to: How is the death penalty inhumane and degrading? That's just your view, others don't agree with it. I see it degrading on the victim to see a murderer go out scot free after spending 10 years in prison, free to rebuild his life and go on as if nothing had happened.
Of course its just my view , but I don't think any society has the right to take a life. There have been innocent people executed. But I presume you dont care about them or their families.
In response to: You're using an article from amnestyusa to back your argument? Yes this organization is so impartial and unbiased isn't it? It's like asking a greenpeace activist and a texas oiler if the global warming phenomenon is real or not and not expecting any bias from the two!
Just showing you more statistics mate. Of course if your going to be close minded about it I wont bother.........I've asked you for stats to back up your reasoning and am still waiting.
In response to: As for your last paragraph, at least I'm honest in how I'd feel were one of my family a victim in this case. I sincerely doubt you'd try to reason with the criminal if one of your family was a victim. Then again, the pc brigade isn't renowned for logic..
Nah I would do anything to protect my family. Any sane person would. I would also accept my fate if I broke the Law. Just dont see the need to Scream it from the rooftops and beat my chest while saying it.
mahymahy: It is not about entering a country or whatever. It is the life of a human being or many, he is violating. Putting them to trash.
The drug pusher is an abuser of the society.
My opinion is to execute them along those child molestors and rapists.
well there execuitn the wrong people a few misrble kgz of the stuff how about setn up a team 2 chop down every poppi field they see ? fields are big u cant miss them ? can u ?how com they doint want 2 wipe out the bigger drug lords witch are well known 2 the police ? money talks doint it ,,,, the goverment is a descrace its all about the money at the end of the day ....o wait were are them kgz now ? back on the street The drug pusher is an abuser of the society.
My opinion is to execute them along those child molestors and rapists.
wulfen: Just taking a simple statistic out of context like that doesn't argue your case either.
family or loved ones ended up a victim of one of those scumbags I mentioned above, they sure should hope that the state kills them before I get my hands on them I guarantee you that.
family or loved ones ended up a victim of one of those scumbags I mentioned above, they sure should hope that the state kills them before I get my hands on them I guarantee you that.
Well said Wulfen
sassysuzy: yes line them up and shoot the lot of them, what if it was your child killing himself with Heroin that they'd got him hooked on?
they no no no its ur choice if you take it or not if i told u 2 jump in the river would u just cuz i said so ? so i guess i could blame bob marley for for me smokeing weed 
RoeDeVinna: u can even get 8 years for murder here. and be out in 6
yes its a discrace sure wats 10 years for killing someone like i could rob a bank kill someone hide the money and wen i get cought do the 10 years an wen i get out ill be rich this reccison would have ya tinkn 
kev86: well there execuitn the wrong people a few misrble kgz of the stuff how about setn up a team 2 chop down every poppi field they see ? fields are big u cant miss them ? can u ?how com they doint want 2 wipe out the bigger drug lords witch are well known 2 the police ? money talks doint it ,,,, the goverment is a descrace its all about the money at the end of the day ....o wait were are them kgz now ? back on the street
Mate Kev, Total surrender.
kev86: well there execuitn the wrong people a few misrble kgz of the stuff how about setn up a team 2 chop down every poppi field they see ? fields are big u cant miss them ? can u ?how com they doint want 2 wipe out the bigger drug lords witch are well known 2 the police ? money talks doint it ,,,, the goverment is a descrace its all about the money at the end of the day ....o wait were are them kgz now ? back on the street
Well said mate but again- what is the point for bringing heroine from europe to china via all the axis of asian heroine ie the golden triangle. There's more to it than sensationilsm media, it's china stamping it's authority.
To get a visa to china is hard enough let alone customs, theres more than meets the eye but at the end of the day- great news for political correct do gooders that are either blind or dumb.
The Chinese Govt might have just saved your father,sister,brother,cousin,uncle etc etc.
Well done China
mahymahy: Mate Kev, Total surrender.
it just craics me up wen i hear they killed someone for a few kgz the world is kroupt and the biggist gangs are the goverment ...............mate no worries kiwi69: Well said mate but again- what is the point for bringing heroine from europe to china via all the axis of asian heroine ie the golden triangle. There's more to it than sensationilsm media, it's china stamping it's authority.
To get a visa to china is hard enough let alone customs, theres more than meets the eye but at the end of the day- great news for political correct do gooders that are either blind or dumb.
The Chinese Govt might have just saved your father,sister,brother,cousin,uncle etc etc.
Well done China
who in the right mind would do such a ting ? maybe some one with a mentel disorderTo get a visa to china is hard enough let alone customs, theres more than meets the eye but at the end of the day- great news for political correct do gooders that are either blind or dumb.
The Chinese Govt might have just saved your father,sister,brother,cousin,uncle etc etc.
Well done China
As a rule I disagree with anybody being killed full stop....
....but one must admit that irrespective of the all criteria......one must never play with fire near flammable material...
...if an explosion occurs.....is it the fault of the flammable stuff....or of those who brought the fire close?
....but one must admit that irrespective of the all criteria......one must never play with fire near flammable material...
...if an explosion occurs.....is it the fault of the flammable stuff....or of those who brought the fire close?
campoqueen: No absolutely not. Maybe for not being able to spell well i quess my spelling is ok for a fella the never went 2 school though!
kiwi69: What's the craic mate, cheers, ta be sure ta be sure
the craic will be 90 next year ......happy new year matey
kev86: the craic will be 90 next year ......happy new year matey
All the best for the new year and may the road rise to meet you with the wind on your back. Have a guiness at temple bar on me bro, what ever you do mate don't try and smuggle guiness coz the black stuff dont travel,
Good on ya bro
gozoman2: As a rule I disagree with anybody being killed full stop....
....but one must admit that irrespective of the all criteria......one must never play with fire near flammable material...
...if an explosion occurs.....is it the fault of the flammable stuff....or of those who brought the fire close?
....but one must admit that irrespective of the all criteria......one must never play with fire near flammable material...
...if an explosion occurs.....is it the fault of the flammable stuff....or of those who brought the fire close?
I was hoping you'd be around Mr Gozo! Do you remember the name of the thread from a while back where we were discussing the drugs problem?
kiwi69: All the best for the new year and may the road rise to meet you with the wind on your back. Have a guiness at temple bar on me bro, what ever you do mate don't try and smuggle guiness coz the black stuff dont travel,
Good on ya bro
gorge young .......blow no more white horses or pretty laides at my door so may the road rise 2 meet you with the wind at ur back an the stars shine so bright its the last day of summer an am left in the cold night Good on ya bro
A thought ocurrs!, the execution of this scum bag in China has been in all the major news programmes worldwide, this blog has gone on for two days,is not the point made?, ie, bring drugs into China and you die, regardless of anyones opinion.
If it takes one person to die to make the point and potentially save many people long term,then it has certainly been worthwhile.
If it takes one person to die to make the point and potentially save many people long term,then it has certainly been worthwhile.
I personally do not believe in the death sentance ....if you wish to see that as not wanting criminals to be punished then so be it .....the death sentance is NOT a deterrant....you can read about it in many places and it has been tryed both ways in my state and we now DO NOT have the death sentance ....and rightly so I think 
not having the death sentance garranties only one thing ,but this one thing is very important.....NO death sentance...No one is put to death wrongly.......this alone I think should be enough ,but it seems some do not care if people are put to death wrongly......
Lostrebel: I personally do not believe in the death sentance ....if you wish to see that as not wanting criminals to be punished then so be it .....the death sentance is NOT a deterrant....you can read about it in many places and it has been tryed both ways in my state and we now DO NOT have the death sentance ....and rightly so I think
I agree totally D
I also see where China are coming from with this harsh sentence though unfortunately. They fought off a heroin problem in the 1830's which decimated their economy and understandably they dont want it happening again.
This does not excuse yesterdays barbarous act in any way but it sure sent a heck of a message to anybody else thinking to take the stuff into their country - whether or not the death penalty is a good deterrent is a different matter imo........
I find it difficult to accept this 'helplessness' stance of our governments in the failure to stop the trade in this poison and have an altogether cynical opinion on how and why its allowed to continue.
trish123: I agree totally D
I also see where China are coming from with this harsh sentence though unfortunately. They fought off a heroin problem in the 1830's which decimated their economy and understandably they dont want it happening again.
This does not excuse yesterdays barbarous act in any way but it sure sent a heck of a message to anybody else thinking to take the stuff into their country - whether or not the death penalty is a good deterrent is a different matter imo........
I find it difficult to accept this 'helplessness' stance of our governments in the failure to stop the trade in this poison and have an altogether cynical opinion on how and why its allowed to continue.
Hi Trish ...I also see where China are coming from with this harsh sentence though unfortunately. They fought off a heroin problem in the 1830's which decimated their economy and understandably they dont want it happening again.
This does not excuse yesterdays barbarous act in any way but it sure sent a heck of a message to anybody else thinking to take the stuff into their country - whether or not the death penalty is a good deterrent is a different matter imo........
I find it difficult to accept this 'helplessness' stance of our governments in the failure to stop the trade in this poison and have an altogether cynical opinion on how and why its allowed to continue.
I agree you have to live with the law of the land.....just glad I live far away from places that put people to death for such things as this....
Lostrebel: Hi Trish ...
I agree you have to live with the law of the land.....just glad I live far away from places that put people to death for such things as this....
I agree you have to live with the law of the land.....just glad I live far away from places that put people to death for such things as this....
Me too - I think what happened to Akmal Shaikh was simply disgusting and inhuman - he was made an example of, simple as that! Its bloody barbaric behaviour.
It wont have made an iota of difference to the suppliers higher up the chain though and they are the ones who need sorting out. This whole incident shows the ineffectiveness of the war on drugs and raises questions to who may be at fault or indeed, creaming off the profits on a larger scale. The Heroin trade nets something like 350 billion a year for the black market economies - and they kill some poor mentally ill guy for 4 kilos - the whole effing thing simply stinks
trish123: Me too - I think what happened to Akmal Shaikh was simply disgusting and inhuman - he was made an example of, simple as that! Its bloody barbaric behaviour.
It wont have made an iota of difference to the suppliers higher up the chain though and they are the ones who need sorting out. This whole incident shows the ineffectiveness of the war on drugs and raises questions to who may be at fault or indeed, creaming off the profits on a larger scale. The Heroin trade nets something like 350 billion a year for the black market economies - and they kill some poor mentally ill guy for 4 kilos - the whole effing thing simply stinks
I said this in an earlier post and a few others that have pasted the hallowed pages of CS....prohibition DOES NOT WORK....thats how I see it ...and as long as there are people ,there will be drugs ...the monies would be better spent on education rather than prevention ...but as they say here in CS land ..JMHOIt wont have made an iota of difference to the suppliers higher up the chain though and they are the ones who need sorting out. This whole incident shows the ineffectiveness of the war on drugs and raises questions to who may be at fault or indeed, creaming off the profits on a larger scale. The Heroin trade nets something like 350 billion a year for the black market economies - and they kill some poor mentally ill guy for 4 kilos - the whole effing thing simply stinks
isnt there enough killing going on in this world with out the goverment adding 2 it
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