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Feb 21, 2008 1:23 AM CSTBarak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida, USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts

Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?(Vote Below)

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Bad ethnical questions raised by the common quotes
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16%
Needs a new writer and is troubling.
9
11%
We all get a quote wrong, no big deal.
7
9%
Still look at the change he stands for!
7
9%
Inspiring and Hopeful, The new light of America
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35%
Other
16
20%
Total Votes
80
Barak Obama has used some near identical quotes from previous speeches made by the Governor of Mass. Does this bother you?
Do you feel that this impacts his intregrity?

Often in political speech writing, polls are taken on the effects that
certain words and certain phrases have on the audience. Do you feel
that he is using these common quotes in some unethical manner, in that they might have been polled for effect earlier?

Or is no big deal. He is still a dynamic speaker. With solid ideas for the
change of America. That his message is resonating in the country. That his message convey what American should be...no matter where the
orginal source of the material came from.

Voting and postings begins now.cheers
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Feb 21, 2008 1:23 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Barak Obama has used some near identical quotes from previous speeches made by the Governor of Mass. Does this bother you?
Do you feel that this impacts his intregrity?

Often in political speech writing, polls are taken on the effects that
certain words and certain phrases have on the audience. Do you feel
that he is using these common quotes in some unethical manner, in that they might have been polled for effect earlier?

Or is no big deal. He is still a dynamic speaker. With solid ideas for the
change of America. That his message is resonating in the country. That his message convey what American should be...no matter where the
orginal source of the material came from.

Voting and postings begins now.cheers
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Feb 21, 2008 1:31 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
Sparky55
Sparky55Sparky55Somewhere, Afghanistan48 Threads 1 Polls 2,678 Posts
I think all public speakers borrow from other great speeches and adjust those to fit their own agenda(s).

It's smart to use what he or his speech writers have already determined works for a given audience and it's working at the moment.
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Feb 21, 2008 6:20 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
AMERICA IS READY FOR A CHANGEteddybear



get off his back...






























































rolling on the floor laughing tongue rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 21, 2008 6:21 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
oh ysh I forgot...SIZE MATTERS....cheering rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 21, 2008 6:43 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
How many politicians even know the original source of their words... they use speech writers. If someone has found an eloquent way of saying what you want to say... I don't have an issue with borrowing the occasional phrase providing it is a reflection of how you actually feel.
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Feb 21, 2008 6:57 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
uh oh
when jb is this focused its gonna be pandemonium later

youre like lucille ball to me sometimes




thumbs up popcorn
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Feb 21, 2008 7:03 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
lusciousmile
lusciousmilelusciousmileThere, Aland Islands Finland25 Threads 2 Polls 11,989 Posts
TTom50: Barak Obama has used some near identical quotes from previous speeches made by the Governor of Mass. Does this bother you?
Do you feel that this impacts his intregrity?

Often in political speech writing, polls are taken on the effects that
certain words and certain phrases have on the audience. Do you feel
that he is using these common quotes in some unethical manner, in that they might have been polled for effect earlier?

Or is no big deal. He is still a dynamic speaker. With solid ideas for the
change of America. That his message is resonating in the country. That his message convey what American should be...no matter where the
orginal source of the material came from.

Voting and postings begins now.


Yes, he probably uses the same phrases others have used. We use similar quotes, idioms, euphemisms everyday. We all borrow words and get inspiration from others every now and then.

Since we all use words we didn't invent, i'd say, give the man a break.

wine
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Feb 21, 2008 7:22 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
wow lush

that rocked

wish ida thot of it

maybe ppl are tired of the topic
not much action
plus its early in US

dunno

im gonna try to get some sleep
see ya later sweet potater

roll eyes




grin
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Feb 21, 2008 8:20 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
TTom50
TTom50TTom50Orlando, Florida USA21 Threads 10 Polls 1,301 Posts
Ladies, I think that it is a pretty 'fair' poll. It offers a range of opinion choices from being totally negative to being totally positive. I explained the situation as clearly without taking one side or position
the best I could.

So how am I on the man back (criticial of him)?

I did a similar poll on Huckabee when he had his gaff on the illegal immigration issue and Pakistan. So this is not about one party or that party politics. It is about seeing seeing where we stand with
a politician that have occassional a gaff or a ethnics issue.

So if size matters.....so does fairnesshandshake

But your statement for the Senator is admirable and seems committed.
Just have those same commitments if and when he wins the election and the office. Because if you walk away then when it gets hot.....and it will......your commitment to his Presidency can be questioned.
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Feb 21, 2008 8:44 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
mindfful: uh oh
when jb is this focused its gonna be pandemonium later

youre like lucille ball to me sometimes


I don't know what you could be talking about, I merely state an opinion...devil laugh

...but I do seem to get myself in spot of trouble on occasion, I think I need a "Ricky" in my life...


scold Jaaaccccqqqqqiiiiieeee!!!! hole <------------ me hiding from "Ricky" laugh
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Feb 21, 2008 10:48 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
And how am I a sore loser?? What have I lost??confused
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Feb 21, 2008 10:51 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
shipoker55: And how am I a sore loser?? What have I lost??


Hillary for President


I don't know, you tell me....


comfort I'm just playing with ya...would you rather go to the park and slide on the slides?yay
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Feb 21, 2008 11:01 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
i suggest you find any post that said I was a Hillary supoorter, rather than play in the park. I have never supported Hillary...Bill, yes, Hillary, no.

I don't know what the sarcasm is all about, though! Again...it appears that on CS, if you are not an O'Bama supporter, you are of questionable value.

Sorry, lady, I think for myself! I would like O'Bama if he had more experience AND if he included me in his agenda!. But don't call me a loser and say I am a Hillary supporter without knowing where I stand!!
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Feb 21, 2008 11:16 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
shipoker55: i suggest you find any post that said I was a Hillary supoorter, rather than play in the park. I have never supported Hillary...Bill, yes, Hillary, no.

I don't know what the sarcasm is all about, though! Again...it appears that on CS, if you are not an O'Bama supporter, you are of questionable value.

Sorry, lady, I think for myself! I would like O'Bama if he had more experience AND if he included me in his agenda!. But don't call me a loser and say I am a Hillary supporter without knowing where I stand!!



teddybear many appologies to you fine sir...you are a wonderful poster and I respect you.

get a friggin s of h please...loosen yer boxers or somethingdoh
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Feb 21, 2008 11:32 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
wave Alright then....



Good day!


(loved Paul Harvey!!!)peace
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Feb 21, 2008 11:33 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
yeah...when you get off you friggen high horse!!
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Feb 21, 2008 11:39 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
prncss4someone
prncss4someoneprncss4someoneHopeful, Michigan USA57 Threads 8 Polls 7,227 Posts
shipoker55: yeah...when you get off you friggen high horse!!



blues I never get my horse high....moping


stupid rumors anyway....conversing
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Feb 21, 2008 11:46 AM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
jbibiza
jbibizajbibizaCasinos, Valencia Spain94 Threads 4 Polls 4,914 Posts
jbibiza: How many politicians even know the original source of their words... they use speech writers. If someone has found an eloquent way of saying what you want to say... I don't have an issue with borrowing the occasional phrase providing it is a reflection of how you actually feel.


Please don't generalize " Ladies" I am a Clinton supporter but my post reveals the way I feel about the topic of using others words regardless of whether it was about Obama, Clinton, McCain....

or do you not consider me to be a lady?wine
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Feb 21, 2008 12:28 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
In response to: By the way, I know who Paul Harvery was


LMAO...rolling on the floor laughing

At least it's not all of the ladys just backing Hillary just because she is a woman.
Kind of removes the gender card.
I'm thinking its all going to get nasty real quick because Hillary knows she headed down the toilet.
I just hope Obama has a lot of body guards..I can almost hear the shots already.
If he stays alive he will continue to kick butt.

Hillary is hurt by Bill, people just don't want to put him back in office, you get one, you get both. And she is looking like she is so exhausted!

Mc Cain- 1 is too old, 2 sounds just like Bush. I don't think we should just cut and run from Iraq, but we need to start pulling out slowly so that the New Iraq Gov.. knows to start doing their job, they are just kicking back and letting our troops die for them. ( think they are smart that way,, more Americans die this way). Is this their aganda?! I think so.

As for OP..Obama is doing right,, Just the Obama haters are Desperate for anything they can use against him,, If they can't come up with something real they try to fabricate stuff.conversing
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Feb 21, 2008 7:44 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
i didnt post as such,
and i didnt notice but one mention that may have been taken
as an emotional response...(frustrated and tired of such remarks
if thats considered emotional)

no one attacked the OP
yet he seems to keep thinking the women
arent capable of clear thinking?
or the ideas in response have been not on topic?

perception is an interesting thing.

and as far as thinking CS is more or les for any candidate
thats just ridiculous and unfounded



wow
just another boo hoo perception

seems to me the men are a bit more emotional in this thread
dunno
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Feb 21, 2008 8:00 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
rasgumby
rasgumbyrasgumbyMoberly, Missouri USA99 Threads 10 Polls 4,665 Posts
mindfful: i didnt post as such,
and i didnt notice but one mention that may have been taken
as an emotional response...(frustrated and tired of such remarks
if thats considered emotional)

no one attacked the OP
yet he seems to keep thinking the women
arent capable of clear thinking?
or the ideas in response have been not on topic?

perception is an interesting thing.

and as far as thinking CS is more or les for any candidate
thats just ridiculous and unfounded

just another boo hoo perception

seems to me the men are a bit more emotional in this thread


crying crying crying NOT TRUE!!! NOT TRUE....crying crying crying
TAKE THAT BACK..........rolling on the floor laughing
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Feb 21, 2008 8:04 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
mindfful
mindffulmindffulChicago, Illinois USA235 Threads 8 Polls 18,996 Posts
hahahaha
thats the greatest
my timing is so off tonight

pooooor RG

thank goodness you 'get it'


thumbs up
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Feb 21, 2008 8:29 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
Skeptikos
SkeptikosSkeptikosGreenville, South Carolina USA19 Threads 745 Posts
Who the hell knows who these wannabes are?
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Feb 21, 2008 9:11 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
Skeptikos: Who the hell knows who these wannabes are?
dunno
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Feb 21, 2008 10:08 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
shipoker55
shipoker55shipoker55St. Petersburg, Florida USA211 Threads 2 Polls 9,362 Posts
who can argue the point?
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Feb 21, 2008 10:48 PM CST Barak Obama Speeches...inspiring and hopefull OR plagarism and false?
Indyfella
IndyfellaIndyfellaindianapolis, Indiana USA152 Threads 8 Polls 18,150 Posts
dunno
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