Long distance. He hesitates. Should I give him deadline? (187)
plsbereal: i think it is common sense.
this morning he was sleepy (time difference) as usually and as usually he was not inclined to have a serious conversation which Ihave been trying to have with him for couple weeks now.
i pushed him to talk. he said he is not ready to come to my counntry yet but he loves me and dont want to give up because i mean a lot to him. he said he spoke to a lawyer and said its not gonna be easy for us to get back together. but he has no plan and no clue what to do
this morning he was sleepy (time difference) as usually and as usually he was not inclined to have a serious conversation which Ihave been trying to have with him for couple weeks now.
i pushed him to talk. he said he is not ready to come to my counntry yet but he loves me and dont want to give up because i mean a lot to him. he said he spoke to a lawyer and said its not gonna be easy for us to get back together. but he has no plan and no clue what to do
Isn't it hard for people from Kazakhstan to leave their country? I know that you can't get a visa, or that is very hard to get one, and enormously expensive. That can maybe the case for his hesitation, the fact that its maybe gonna be mission impossible to get you out of your Country, and that he's not prepared to live in your country...Just thinking
leigh2154: Just the fact that he is not telling you the reason for the delay is your answer. This guy is playing games with you and is probably in a relationship or, worse, a marriage. You are filling in for something that is lacking in his life. It sounds harsh, but he is using you. You need to lose him and move on. Feeling lost is NOT a good thing! Good luck, you have my sympathy.
I doubt if he's as bad as you seem to think.
He probably would really like for it to work out.
But it's costly and difficult to bring someone across the ocean and get set up to live together. There's the visa situation and the income situation and the family situation and a lot more. Frankly, they should have made the decision and done something before she ever went back to her home country. Now it's probably too late.
plsbereal: Hello CS folks!
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
Sist...i have same problem, and i do the same.
We are woman, we need status and commitment. We cant stay in one situation without sure about anything. life must go on. Bright future in our hand, we worth for that. Man who not ready for commitment is useless for us. Outside there lot of chance for better man.
For anybody that thinks that moving from one country to another is easy. Back in January 2010 I was unemployed in the U.S. and an American company contacted me about working out here in Germany. It cost the company $30,000.00 dollars to get me a work visa and $20,000.00 for the relocation. I would have not been able to afford that especially with all debt that I accrued while I was unemployed plus my student loans which I'm still paying.
Immigration arrange is stuff that people should talk about before they get involve in a relationship.
The only recommendation that I can give you is that your boyfriend move to your country for 2 years and marry you, once you are able to prove that you have been married and living together for 2 years you go to the U.S. embassy and apply for a green card, it will be the cheapest way to do it. Not sure how much is going to cost you, but it is a lot cheaper to do it overseas, than in the U.S.
Immigration arrange is stuff that people should talk about before they get involve in a relationship.
The only recommendation that I can give you is that your boyfriend move to your country for 2 years and marry you, once you are able to prove that you have been married and living together for 2 years you go to the U.S. embassy and apply for a green card, it will be the cheapest way to do it. Not sure how much is going to cost you, but it is a lot cheaper to do it overseas, than in the U.S.
leigh2154: Plsbereal....................I hear you,but think about the logistics and then do the math. He is inviting her to his country.......When I invite, I pay!! Also, he's free to reply anytime he chooses. I, for one, would love to hear his side of the story!!
i would love to hear his side of the story too! but i guess communication is a problem here. and i have started having doubts our relationship is going to work out.
i realized it is easier when you have someone to discuss the problem with and they help open eyes to many issues
plsbereal: Hello CS folks!
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
Yes you alone need a deadline for you,...If you think this guy is stalling for whatever reason give him the Bums rush. YOU are all important in this, and if he dont see that then its time to say goodbye and adieu!
plsbereal: Hello CS folks!
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
My advice would be not to give him a deadline. He will use it against you and say that he does not like to be blackmailed.
It sounds like he is indecisive and unless you are proactive, chances are nothing will happen for a long time.
What exactly is it that he is working on? A fiance visa? Ask him the progress and status of things. Sounds to me like he's doing nothing, to be honest.
If I were in your shoes, I would brace myself that this is not going anywhere. Visas can take a long time, but least he could do is keep you updated on the paperwork IF that is what this is about. Something tells me that he is shopping around for someone else and is letting things fizzle out, but I may be wrong...
plsbereal: Hello CS folks!
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
I am in a weird situation. Well, at least to me it is weird and I have no clue what to do.
I met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country. Love was (is) strong and we didnt want to lose each other and decided to get back together.
He told me to wait till we figure out what to do.
Time is going and still nothing. I ask him if he has any idea of what we are going to do, he says "i am working on it" or "we will talk about it later". It does hurt me. He doesnt look like he is fooling. Probably he is an indecisive type and it takes hi long time to become ready for something. But what about me? I am tired of this distance and I am tired of him having no idea what we gonna do.
I just thought i am going to give him a deadline (yes , kinda weird choice of the word, but still) early January. Early January I want him to tell me he is coming to meet my family, early january is the deadline for him to elaborate a plan and everything.
my question is should I give him such deadline or should i leave it as is ?
i am feelling lost
I think he has strung you along and has been playing on your heart and emotions for his own gratification. You have never met him, he has professed his love and he is evading these serious questions you have at this time?
I'd say truly that no matter what deadline you give him, he's going to give you an excuse and you will keep extending it. My feeling is to end it now, cry it out of your system and move on to meet a decent guy who is not dawdling or pulling on your heartstrings for his own amusements.
To sit in hope and wait your life away for love that is most likely not really there in the first place is not really good for anyone in the longrun.
What has he done for you other than sweet nothing words to make you feel special? I have a feeling that he has someone right here in the states that he is involved with...maybe even engaged, dating or married to already. He most likely has no intentions whatsoever of spending time with you in person.
I could be wrong but then again, this is only my opinion based on what you have written and what may possibly be the reasons for his evading conversation with you using the "early in the morning excuse" and he isn't willing to get into any long drawn out conversation at that hour. He probably isn't able to speak early in the morning cuz someone he is with is able to hear him and start asking questions so he has to keep it short. Maybe wife or girlfriend possibly nearby.
If a guy is in love with a woman and she calls him, you can better believe even in a groggy sleepy state that man will come to attention of some sort and not evade a conversation. He will be fantasizing about you right there with him as he is talking to you. The male is hardwired liked that by nature when he is truly in love and the woman is not in bed next to him and he hears her voice and there is no one present in the bed with him otherwise. Perhaps the experienced men who have been in love before are the best experts in the matters of the heart and distance. I'm only speaking from personal experience.
LILLYLADY: I think he has strung you along and has been playing on your heart and emotions for his own gratification. You have never met him, he has professed his love and he is evading these serious questions you have at this time?
I'd say truly that no matter what deadline you give him, he's going to give you an excuse and you will keep extending it. My feeling is to end it now, cry it out of your system and move on to meet a decent guy who is not dawdling or pulling on your heartstrings for his own amusements.
To sit in hope and wait your life away for love that is most likely not really there in the first place is not really good for anyone in the longrun.
What has he done for you other than sweet nothing words to make you feel special? I have a feeling that he has someone right here in the states that he is involved with...maybe even engaged, dating or married to already. He most likely has no intentions whatsoever of spending time with you in person.
I could be wrong but then again, this is only my opinion based on what you have written and what may possibly be the reasons for his evading conversation with you using the "early in the morning excuse" and he isn't willing to get into any long drawn out conversation at that hour. He probably isn't able to speak early in the morning cuz someone he is with is able to hear him and start asking questions so he has to keep it short. Maybe wife or girlfriend possibly nearby.
If a guy is in love with a woman and she calls him, you can better believe even in a groggy sleepy state that man will come to attention of some sort and not evade a conversation. He will be fantasizing about you right there with him as he is talking to you. The male is hardwired liked that by nature when he is truly in love and the woman is not in bed next to him and he hears her voice and there is no one present in the bed with him otherwise. Perhaps the experienced men who have been in love before are the best experts in the matters of the heart and distance. I'm only speaking from personal experience.
I'd say truly that no matter what deadline you give him, he's going to give you an excuse and you will keep extending it. My feeling is to end it now, cry it out of your system and move on to meet a decent guy who is not dawdling or pulling on your heartstrings for his own amusements.
To sit in hope and wait your life away for love that is most likely not really there in the first place is not really good for anyone in the longrun.
What has he done for you other than sweet nothing words to make you feel special? I have a feeling that he has someone right here in the states that he is involved with...maybe even engaged, dating or married to already. He most likely has no intentions whatsoever of spending time with you in person.
I could be wrong but then again, this is only my opinion based on what you have written and what may possibly be the reasons for his evading conversation with you using the "early in the morning excuse" and he isn't willing to get into any long drawn out conversation at that hour. He probably isn't able to speak early in the morning cuz someone he is with is able to hear him and start asking questions so he has to keep it short. Maybe wife or girlfriend possibly nearby.
If a guy is in love with a woman and she calls him, you can better believe even in a groggy sleepy state that man will come to attention of some sort and not evade a conversation. He will be fantasizing about you right there with him as he is talking to you. The male is hardwired liked that by nature when he is truly in love and the woman is not in bed next to him and he hears her voice and there is no one present in the bed with him otherwise. Perhaps the experienced men who have been in love before are the best experts in the matters of the heart and distance. I'm only speaking from personal experience.
plainlyjune: no deadlines. I mean no need to give him a deadline. But you can give yourself a deadline, to decide whether you want to continue waiting. Take other things into consideration and build a life without him in it. A contingency plan of sorts. Whether he makes it to you or not, you have a life to keep you grounded.
Should you decide to give him an ultimatum, be ready for the worst. Lots of people don't work well under pressure. But i do hope you achieve your goals.
Should you decide to give him an ultimatum, be ready for the worst. Lots of people don't work well under pressure. But i do hope you achieve your goals.
i agree you decide how long you will wait and NO longer, but carry on with your life in the meantime.
LILLYLADY: I think he has strung you along and has been playing on your heart and emotions for his own gratification. You have never met him, he has professed his love and he is evading these serious questions you have at this time?
I read the OP's first post as she MET him in the US, and then returned to her own country?
LouiseDreaming: I read the OP's first post as she MET him in the US, and then returned to her own country?
She was with him for a year
stareyes: I think so equiya....
thank you.
Its not clear to me where you plan to live,your country or his.
Moving to a strange country even for love would be a big move for anyone,i would have to think about it real hard,not sure that i could do it.I would would have to visit first to see if i liked it.It would give some people cold feet,going to the unknown,starting a new life there.
As far as a time limit,people don't like to feel pushed or forced to do some thing,you might lose him altogether,its got to be his choice.You wouldn't want him to come before he is ready physically and mentally would you.You both need to make this choice together,give him a little space and time to miss you and think about it.
If he loves you,like you love him he will choose you.
good luck
Moving to a strange country even for love would be a big move for anyone,i would have to think about it real hard,not sure that i could do it.I would would have to visit first to see if i liked it.It would give some people cold feet,going to the unknown,starting a new life there.
As far as a time limit,people don't like to feel pushed or forced to do some thing,you might lose him altogether,its got to be his choice.You wouldn't want him to come before he is ready physically and mentally would you.You both need to make this choice together,give him a little space and time to miss you and think about it.
If he loves you,like you love him he will choose you.
good luck
LouiseDreaming: I read the OP's first post as she MET him in the US, and then returned to her own country?
First of all, how can she manage that? With a tourist visa you can stay 3 months max in the US, probably she was their with a temporary work visa, and if she could manage this..how she could get it from the authority's in Kazakhstan... they NOT let anybody leave their country, it is very, i dare to say extreme difficult to get permission to leave the country, only people like ( artists, professional athletes, etc..with other words people who gonna represent their country outside the borders can get a visa and international passport..
Serpenta_Manon: First of all, how can she manage that? With a tourist visa you can stay 3 months max in the US, probably she was their with a temporary work visa, and if she could manage this..how she could get it from the authority's in Kazakhstan... they NOT let anybody leave their country, it is very, i dare to say extreme difficult to get permission to leave the country, only people like ( artists, professional athletes, etc..with other words people who gonna represent their country outside the borders can get a visa and international passport..
no, she was not a tourist in the US, she was a foreign student. as a foreign student she can get a student visa for the duration of her studies.
LILLYLADY: I think he has strung you along and has been playing on your heart and emotions for his own gratification. You have never met him, he has professed his love and he is evading these serious questions you have at this time?
I'd say truly that no matter what deadline you give him, he's going to give you an excuse and you will keep extending it. My feeling is to end it now, cry it out of your system and move on to meet a decent guy who is not dawdling or pulling on your heartstrings for his own amusements.
To sit in hope and wait your life away for love that is most likely not really there in the first place is not really good for anyone in the longrun.
What has he done for you other than sweet nothing words to make you feel special? I have a feeling that he has someone right here in the states that he is involved with...maybe even engaged, dating or married to already. He most likely has no intentions whatsoever of spending time with you in person.
I could be wrong but then again, this is only my opinion based on what you have written and what may possibly be the reasons for his evading conversation with you using the "early in the morning excuse" and he isn't willing to get into any long drawn out conversation at that hour. He probably isn't able to speak early in the morning cuz someone he is with is able to hear him and start asking questions so he has to keep it short. Maybe wife or girlfriend possibly nearby.
If a guy is in love with a woman and she calls him, you can better believe even in a groggy sleepy state that man will come to attention of some sort and not evade a conversation. He will be fantasizing about you right there with him as he is talking to you. The male is hardwired liked that by nature when he is truly in love and the woman is not in bed next to him and he hears her voice and there is no one present in the bed with him otherwise. Perhaps the experienced men who have been in love before are the best experts in the matters of the heart and distance. I'm only speaking from personal experience.
I'd say truly that no matter what deadline you give him, he's going to give you an excuse and you will keep extending it. My feeling is to end it now, cry it out of your system and move on to meet a decent guy who is not dawdling or pulling on your heartstrings for his own amusements.
To sit in hope and wait your life away for love that is most likely not really there in the first place is not really good for anyone in the longrun.
What has he done for you other than sweet nothing words to make you feel special? I have a feeling that he has someone right here in the states that he is involved with...maybe even engaged, dating or married to already. He most likely has no intentions whatsoever of spending time with you in person.
I could be wrong but then again, this is only my opinion based on what you have written and what may possibly be the reasons for his evading conversation with you using the "early in the morning excuse" and he isn't willing to get into any long drawn out conversation at that hour. He probably isn't able to speak early in the morning cuz someone he is with is able to hear him and start asking questions so he has to keep it short. Maybe wife or girlfriend possibly nearby.
If a guy is in love with a woman and she calls him, you can better believe even in a groggy sleepy state that man will come to attention of some sort and not evade a conversation. He will be fantasizing about you right there with him as he is talking to you. The male is hardwired liked that by nature when he is truly in love and the woman is not in bed next to him and he hears her voice and there is no one present in the bed with him otherwise. Perhaps the experienced men who have been in love before are the best experts in the matters of the heart and distance. I'm only speaking from personal experience.
Long distant relationships are very very hard to deal with in itself, then add the dynamics ....trust, and physical aspects , it could drive you nuts. I just ended a relationship after a long time and it wasn't easy by no means.
Move on my dear, it will be hard but life goes on .....
LouiseDreaming: I read the OP's first post as she MET him in the US, and then returned to her own country?
yes. you got it right
she was a foreign student in the US
Serpenta_Manon: First of all, how can she manage that? With a tourist visa you can stay 3 months max in the US, probably she was their with a temporary work visa, and if she could manage this..how she could get it from the authority's in Kazakhstan... they NOT let anybody leave their country, it is very, i dare to say extreme difficult to get permission to leave the country, only people like ( artists, professional athletes, etc..with other words people who gonna represent their country outside the borders can get a visa and international passport..
Serp, I was just basing it on what she wrote -
'met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country.'
I don't spend my time reading up on every other countries visa regs - Spanish red tape is bad enough.
tomcatwarne: Well I crossed oceans and continents to be with a woman, If he really wants you, believe me he will move heaven and earth to get you. This sort of indecision makes me think he is not raedy to move.
i agree!! a friend of mine here in Aus is dating a woman in Ireland. They have made the effort for months to make it work and will be married in July.
It wont work if both parties are not committed.
LouiseDreaming: Serp, I was just basing it on what she wrote -
'met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country.'I don't spend my time reading up on every other countries visa regs - Spanish red tape is bad enough.
'met this guy in the US. We dated since June and in October I had to leave to my home country.'I don't spend my time reading up on every other countries visa regs - Spanish red tape is bad enough.
Nah, its just because I know how its rules their, I was for 9 weeks in Astana back in 2005, and people just can't get a visa, not even for a Holiday, only when they got $$ everything is for sale over their,..I posted this already before, but she never respond on my question how that she managed it..
equiya: no, she was not a tourist in the US, she was a foreign student. as a foreign student she can get a student visa for the duration of her studies.
Okay, i missed that post..
Thanks Equiya
LouiseDreaming: equiya, thanks, the only reason I pointed it out was because others have made very lenghty replies on the basis that they haven't even met...
they have met, she met him in the US, they dated in the US before she went back to her country
robsantiago15: For anybody that thinks that moving from one country to another is easy. Back in January 2010 I was unemployed in the U.S. and an American company contacted me about working out here in Germany. It cost the company $30,000.00 dollars to get me a work visa and $20,000.00 for the relocation. I would have not been able to afford that especially with all debt that I accrued while I was unemployed plus my student loans which I'm still paying.
Immigration arrange is stuff that people should talk about before they get involve in a relationship.
The only recommendation that I can give you is that your boyfriend move to your country for 2 years and marry you, once you are able to prove that you have been married and living together for 2 years you go to the U.S. embassy and apply for a green card, it will be the cheapest way to do it. Not sure how much is going to cost you, but it is a lot cheaper to do it overseas, than in the U.S.
Immigration arrange is stuff that people should talk about before they get involve in a relationship.
The only recommendation that I can give you is that your boyfriend move to your country for 2 years and marry you, once you are able to prove that you have been married and living together for 2 years you go to the U.S. embassy and apply for a green card, it will be the cheapest way to do it. Not sure how much is going to cost you, but it is a lot cheaper to do it overseas, than in the U.S.
Does it truly cost that much? That's outrageous. I guess the advice would be - never fall in love with someone from another country then as most people couldn't afford to actually be together.
langleygirl: Does it truly cost that much? That's outrageous. I guess the advice would be - never fall in love with someone from another country then as most people couldn't afford to actually be together.
I thought the same when I read that post. I had no idea it was so expensive to move to America.
I think the ease in which we Europeans move from country to country has made me blasé.
langleygirl: Does it truly cost that much? That's outrageous. I guess the advice would be - never fall in love with someone from another country then as most people couldn't afford to actually be together.
Thats a little bit undue, it depends on the country, and what kind of Visa you need.. for example a temporary work visa for the US is about $500, but you've to get a lot of documents, legalistic translated and legalized by the court of your country.
The relocation costs are very high, that a fact.
Serpenta_Manon: Thats a little bit undue, it depends on the country, and what kind of Visa you need.. for example a temporary work visa for the US is about $500, but you've to get a lot of documents, legalistic translated and legalized by the court of your country.
The relocation costs are very high, that a fact.
So....The relocation costs are very high, that a fact.
What are the relocation costs to Belgium like then ?
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Also think we are making assumptions here and only hearing one side of the story