The Death Penalty (237)
venusenvy: For me its the issue of hypocrisy...Its against the law to kill someone so if you do we will kill you
I don't see the act of raping and murdering a woman to be the same as executing the guy who did it after a fair trial, so I don't see it as hypocrisy at all. I think manslaughter, murder, euthanasia, killing in battle or self defnese; are all different things. Ultimately, they have "a death" in common, but we know that digging, plowing, tunneling and grading are all different things, too, even though they have "moving earth" in common.
gardenhackle: I don't see the act of raping and murdering a woman to be the same as executing the guy who did it after a fair trial, so I don't see it as hypocrisy at all. I think manslaughter, murder, euthanasia, killing in battle or self defnese; are all different things. Ultimately, they have "a death" in common, but we know that digging, plowing, tunneling and grading are all different things, too, even though they have "moving earth" in common.
Could you repeat that please!!??!!
leigh2154: Could you repeat that please!!??!!
Not worth reading twice
NCC1968: AND give 'em some work to do. It can be from sitting at a bench assembling small items to outside in the heat building roads by hand......whatever is needed and depending on their attitude and obedience.
I agree
NCC1968: I'll prob catch some heat on this but......
We seems to have been talking more (not all) about crimes, punishments and emotions.
We sometimes forget that we are talking baout PEOPLE....living humans. Yes....I know crimes that carry capital punishment and some that don't really make the person appear not human, but they are. Even as we mate and allow for the birth of childeren we do not actually make children alive......so killing seems to be taking what is not ours to take.
Just my opinion.........I'll go get my flameproof suit on
We seems to have been talking more (not all) about crimes, punishments and emotions.
We sometimes forget that we are talking baout PEOPLE....living humans. Yes....I know crimes that carry capital punishment and some that don't really make the person appear not human, but they are. Even as we mate and allow for the birth of childeren we do not actually make children alive......so killing seems to be taking what is not ours to take.
Just my opinion.........I'll go get my flameproof suit on
I disagree...to take a human life is to relinquish your own humanity. Along with the rights and freedoms that go with it.
NCC1968: Not worth reading twice
Just wondered if I missed something...........moving earth?? OMG!!!
venusenvy: I disagree...to take a human life is to relinquish your own humanity. Along with the rights and freedoms that go with it.
Seems you AGREE.....
leigh2154: Just wondered if I missed something...........moving earth?? OMG!!!
Super analogy, huh
NCC1968: Seems you AGREE.....
You were urging us to remember the rights (humanity) of the criminal
NCC1968: Seems you AGREE.....
I think she's talking about the Perp relinquishing his/her rights. I agree with her!!!!!
NCC1968: Super analogy, huh
Stunning, absolutely stunning!!!
gardenhackle: I don't see the act of raping and murdering a woman to be the same as executing the guy who did it after a fair trial, so I don't see it as hypocrisy at all. I think manslaughter, murder, euthanasia, killing in battle or self defnese; are all different things. Ultimately, they have "a death" in common, but we know that digging, plowing, tunneling and grading are all different things, too, even though they have "moving earth" in common.
That statement is far too reasonable.
The thought of the death penalty upsets many people and hurts feelings, and as usual people care much more for sparing their own feelings than they do about doing the right thing.
patmac: Sorry Parole....
Just got to back up and comment.......Pat you are absolutely right!! murder vs manslaughter totally different animals............Still expect everyone to keep their eye on the road (no cell phones), drink responsibly, and for crying out loud, could you please do that at home !!!!!!!!!
TrueBlue1986: That statement is far too reasonable.
The thought of the death penalty upsets many people and hurts feelings, and as usual people care much more for sparing their own feelings than they do about doing the right thing.
The thought of the death penalty upsets many people and hurts feelings, and as usual people care much more for sparing their own feelings than they do about doing the right thing.
Life is not for sissies................hurt feelings? try broken bones and bloodied bodies!!
i favor the death penalty because it would send a clear message to those who would want to go the route of committing crimes
leigh2154: Could you repeat that please!!??!!
Not for nuthin', but you DO have the option to read it twice. Just sayin'.
TrueBlue1986: That statement is far too reasonable.
The thought of the death penalty upsets many people and hurts feelings, and as usual people care much more for sparing their own feelings than they do about doing the right thing.
The thought of the death penalty upsets many people and hurts feelings, and as usual people care much more for sparing their own feelings than they do about doing the right thing.
And that is the reason for the rationalizations. In the case of a person who invades someone's home, binds them, rapes them and then murders them in cold blood, the death penalty is exceedingly appropriate.
leigh2154: Life is not for sissies................hurt feelings? try broken bones and bloodied bodies!!
Life is full of sissies, look how many oppose the death penalty no matter what the circumstances.
TrueBlue1986: Life is full of sissies, look how many oppose the death penalty no matter what the circumstances.
She must have been talking about the murder victims. Murders get a much, much kinder end than their victims get. That's the only part about the death penalty that I think really deserves debate.
TrueBlue1986: Life is full of sissies, look how many oppose the death penalty no matter what the circumstances.
Real men don't use terms like sissies!!!
bodleing: Real men don't use terms like sissies!!!
What kind of terms do sissies use, exactly?
Or did you mean that sissies just throw like a girl when they're hurling their terms?
gardenhackle: What kind of terms do sissies use, exactly?
The last time I saw a bunch of sissies together, they were singing something about a blue moon.
Don't worry your head about it gh...it's a Manchester joke.
bodleing: The last time I saw a bunch of sissies together, they were singing something about a blue moon.
Don't worry your head about it gh...it's a Manchester joke.
Don't worry your head about it gh...it's a Manchester joke.
Too bad it's an inside joke. You British blokes have a wicked sense of humor.
Sorry, I hit the post button a little too hard
gardenhackle: Too bad it's an inside joke. You British blokes have a wicked sense of humor.
There are no inside jokes gh....Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep up, it ain't rocket science!!!
Blue moon, shoot the moon, bend over and grab you ankles just to mention a few!!
leigh2154: There are no inside jokes gh....Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep up, it ain't rocket science!!!
Blue moon, shoot the moon, bend over and grab you ankles just to mention a few!!
Blue moon, shoot the moon, bend over and grab you ankles just to mention a few!!
Well, if wasn't an inside joke, then it wouldn't be a "Manchester thing", now, would it? This ain't rocket surgery or brain science or... well, just duh?!
leigh2154: There are no inside jokes gh....Keeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep up, it ain't rocket science!!!
Blue moon, shoot the moon, bend over and grab you ankles just to mention a few!!
Blue moon, shoot the moon, bend over and grab you ankles just to mention a few!!
Wrong!!!
I'll give you a clue.
Now this lot I would gladly hang....tossers!!!
bodleing: Wrong!!!
I'll give you a clue.
Now this lot I would gladly hang....tossers!!!
I'll give you a clue.
Now this lot I would gladly hang....tossers!!!
So cute, if I swim the pond, will you meet me on the shore with a warm hud and a hot toddy???
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However, a civilised society has to strive to meter out punishment that doesn't then render itself uncivilised.
Some of the suggestions in this thread are truly bordering on barbaric.
But like I said...it's understandable.
Ouch!!!!!!