Obama beleives more regulations are necessary in order to Recover America! Right or Wrong? (677)
RayfromUSA: I have no use for politics other than as a good way to study delusional behavior and mass manipulation.
To me the two parties are just two very similar artificially created cults, both led by charlatans and both controlled by the same super-rich elite.
It doesn't matter which cult is in power. It won't change anything substantial. Just the trappings and rituals.
In fact those who control decide which cult they want to put into power at a given time because they have to spin the presentation of their program around that cult's dogma and maintain the illusion that there are really 2 opposing parties who represent the entire range of political thought.
In a sense that's true, but only because any political thought outside the very small box defined by the 2 cults is deprived of any publicity whatsoever.
sounds about right Ray...To me the two parties are just two very similar artificially created cults, both led by charlatans and both controlled by the same super-rich elite.
It doesn't matter which cult is in power. It won't change anything substantial. Just the trappings and rituals.
In fact those who control decide which cult they want to put into power at a given time because they have to spin the presentation of their program around that cult's dogma and maintain the illusion that there are really 2 opposing parties who represent the entire range of political thought.
In a sense that's true, but only because any political thought outside the very small box defined by the 2 cults is deprived of any publicity whatsoever.
i think...
katt...like your posts as well...your a sharp gal
Hot_Single_Dude: mmmmmmmmmmmmmm... what,s up duck?
In america, we say "doc".
ttom500: You are just rationalizing your political vitroil, Dude....President Obama message was clearly to modify
and to tone down public debate was clearly for both sides.
and to tone down public debate was clearly for both sides.
But your sad and amd guys are not speaking english TT and did not GET IT what so ever...
ttom500:
Three hundred and fifteen channel of bad news on
Well it might be me, but the way I see it the whole wide world
has gone crazy So baby why don't we just dance.
Three hundred and fifteen channel of bad news on
Well it might be me, but the way I see it the whole wide world
has gone crazy So baby why don't we just dance.
That's really the answer in a way.
Just forget about politics and dance.
That's what the hippies did back in 68.
They just dropped out of the system and did their own thing.
I can't say the result was all that great for them personally, but it did knock the world for a loop, and it changed people's way of seeing things for a decade or so.
There is more power in dropping out of the rat-race than there is in trying to change it from within.
Ccincy:
As for dancing I'm too sore to do any of that.I fell on some black ice yesterday.
As for dancing I'm too sore to do any of that.I fell on some black ice yesterday.
Hate the stuff. Boy am I glad that snow and ice generally disappear within a week or so here. I have enough trouble trying to keep my balance on dry ground.
Hot_Single_Dude: Well most regulationsare great fro the country and makes sure stupif greedy monsters are not stealing the money and leaving the country behind with deep wounds as it happened to America after the dark years of GWB and his cirminals on charge!
I am talking a bout necessary regulations in order to keep the country safe and the economy safe and obeying the law and making sure the Constitution is respected and not changed or lied a way so it pleases right winged stoopidoes... and not regulations for the sake of regulations alone and beside propper regulations which means rejecting any kind of regulations Repube heads and their greedy supporters have suggested before and are suggesting now and really studying those and bringing in more propper democratic regulations of course. a need for change of paradigme in America so all people can be heard instead of few rich and powerful deciding the whole thing !
I am talking a bout necessary regulations in order to keep the country safe and the economy safe and obeying the law and making sure the Constitution is respected and not changed or lied a way so it pleases right winged stoopidoes... and not regulations for the sake of regulations alone and beside propper regulations which means rejecting any kind of regulations Repube heads and their greedy supporters have suggested before and are suggesting now and really studying those and bringing in more propper democratic regulations of course. a need for change of paradigme in America so all people can be heard instead of few rich and powerful deciding the whole thing !
Name one regulation that is great for a country? Pick any contry in the world...Denmark, US of A, UK.....any of them. Give us one great regulation that cannot they live with out?
RayfromUSA: That's really the answer in a way.
Just forget about politics and dance.
That's what the hippies did back in 68.
They just dropped out of the system and did their own thing.
I can't say the result was all that great for them personally, but it did knock the world for a loop, and it changed people's way of seeing things for a decade or so.
There is more power in dropping out of the rat-race than there is in trying to change it from within.
Just forget about politics and dance.
That's what the hippies did back in 68.
They just dropped out of the system and did their own thing.
I can't say the result was all that great for them personally, but it did knock the world for a loop, and it changed people's way of seeing things for a decade or so.
There is more power in dropping out of the rat-race than there is in trying to change it from within.
I did not write the song, Ray....I copied it down....
CANCANCANCANCANing away here......
Hot_Single_Dude: But your sad and amd guys are not speaking english TT and did not GET IT what so ever...
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jvaski: I'm open for anything that truly gives Health Insurance and providers true competition so their prices are realistic
And you think state-imposed socialized medicine is going to promote competition or reduce prices.
You quite obviously don't have a clue as to how socialized medicine really plays out.
Just wait till they start raiding your salary every month taking as much as they think they might need for all their projects
(new office, pay raise, another secretary, new car, retirement plan, expense account etc) and that's just the director of the local branch of the heathcare ripoff bureau.
You'll be lucky if there's anything left for real healthcare expenses at all.
Private insurance companies can only rip people off when government has already limited competition. Otherwise bad companies would lose their customers to good companies.
Government health insurance is even worse. Far worse.
There is no competition at all and no recourse.
katt1017: Unfortunately they've been slapping on the paint for far too long. I think it is more the time to break out the bulldozers and rebuild.
Greed is the main problem with the system. Too many people trying to make too much money.
The secondary problem is that people have gotten too accepting of inflated costs. They ask, "How can I pay $1,200 per night for a hospital bed?", instead of, "WTF are you talking about $1,200 per night you thieves?".
If you say this to most people though they will just throw up their hands and say, "but that's what it costs." Instead the see some government program paying the bill as the solution. What they don't get is it is not free money.
Be careful Katt... Freddy and TT and Conrad and ther est of the bunch will soon call you a Dang Commie Greed is the main problem with the system. Too many people trying to make too much money.
The secondary problem is that people have gotten too accepting of inflated costs. They ask, "How can I pay $1,200 per night for a hospital bed?", instead of, "WTF are you talking about $1,200 per night you thieves?".
If you say this to most people though they will just throw up their hands and say, "but that's what it costs." Instead the see some government program paying the bill as the solution. What they don't get is it is not free money.
katt1017: I think Rose was getting ready to fly to Denmark and do a lobotomy on him herself.I'm so proud of her!
Bring it all on 
ttom500: Name one regulation that is great for a country? Pick any contry in the world...Denmark, US of A, UK.....any of them. Give us one great regulation that cannot they live with out?
I agree Ttom.
I'm a firm believer in free enterprise and "let the buyer beware" and the absence of undue government intervention in private matters. Government perverts and robs everything it touches.
In a truly free economy, corruption is bad business.
When government gets involved, corruption is big business.
ttom500: I did not write the song, Ray....I copied it down....
Yeah, but the song is just as right whether you wrote it or not.
You get credit for posting it.
Ccincy: I've seen where a certain person is constantly whining about medical care.I've never any medical care and still don't and have had to pay my one way.You don't hear me complaining or complaining.
And so what Cciny ? then you are a very healthy woman and lucky as well and so on... should all others being like you or going Dead ? 
RayfromUSA: Yeah, but the song is just as right whether you wrote it or not.
You get credit for posting it.
You get credit for posting it.
Have you heard it? It is a good song. I really like the country that they put into it. Twangy guitars........even
jvaski: I only care because people with your attitude cause me great unnecessary expense by enhancing it........
This was REALLY treuly the BULLSEYE of the Day JV! 
ttom-- you should make do a wiki on cfrs.... I'm not sure, based on your comments, that you truely understand what it is.
Hot_Single_Dude: And so what Cciny ? then you are a very healthy woman and lucky as well and so on... should all others being like you or going Dead ?
Nicely put Dude !
Hot_Single_Dude: YES YOU CAN JV!
YES We WILL !! Some of us will pursue changes forever - regardless of those who want to let everything be, and be in denial because of politics ....!
RayfromUSA: I agree entirely. But I don't see how a totally corrupt government (both parties) is ever going to "get profiteering under control".
I think the best solution is to cut government down to the minimum with NO big entitlement programs at all, NO standing army in peacetime, NO ability of the President to in any way wage war without a Congressional declaration of war, NO presidential immunity against prosecution for crimes, NO secret contracts, treaties, NO Presidential Directives, etc etc etc (the list is very long).
The money from rising healthcare costs has not gone to the doctors or hospitals. It has gone to the Pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and now (under Obama) to the massive healthcare bureaucracy.
Judging from what I've seen in France under a very similar medical system watch for these changes under Obamacare.
- Overall decline of conditions for hospitals and for GPs.
- Greatly increased delays for appointments with specialists.
- Skyrocketing costs for any sort of complex treatment such as surgery.
- doctors pressured by government to limit costs by inappropriate diagnostics and treatment.
- The need for "mutual" insurance to pay for everything the government either doesn't pay for at all or doesn't pay enough for.
note: in just a few years time the mutual insurance will become just as expensive as the full coverage insurance it has replaced. So that all of the cost increases in care will still be paid over and above what people pay now in addition to the increased amount taken directly out of workers paychecks.
And for all the cost increases, instead of improving, the quality of care will deteriorate.
All accompanied by a general soviet-esque bureaucratic coldness toward the public from the (now state controlled) health industry.
If you don't think it's true
wait a year or two
I think the best solution is to cut government down to the minimum with NO big entitlement programs at all, NO standing army in peacetime, NO ability of the President to in any way wage war without a Congressional declaration of war, NO presidential immunity against prosecution for crimes, NO secret contracts, treaties, NO Presidential Directives, etc etc etc (the list is very long).
The money from rising healthcare costs has not gone to the doctors or hospitals. It has gone to the Pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and now (under Obama) to the massive healthcare bureaucracy.
Judging from what I've seen in France under a very similar medical system watch for these changes under Obamacare.
- Overall decline of conditions for hospitals and for GPs.
- Greatly increased delays for appointments with specialists.
- Skyrocketing costs for any sort of complex treatment such as surgery.
- doctors pressured by government to limit costs by inappropriate diagnostics and treatment.
- The need for "mutual" insurance to pay for everything the government either doesn't pay for at all or doesn't pay enough for.
note: in just a few years time the mutual insurance will become just as expensive as the full coverage insurance it has replaced. So that all of the cost increases in care will still be paid over and above what people pay now in addition to the increased amount taken directly out of workers paychecks.
And for all the cost increases, instead of improving, the quality of care will deteriorate.
All accompanied by a general soviet-esque bureaucratic coldness toward the public from the (now state controlled) health industry.
If you don't think it's true
wait a year or two
Ray... you are absoloutely overstimating problems with universal health care situation of France which have been dammaged because of this stupid Sarkozy for now and still... after Sarkozy is gone by people,s votes ASAP... the system will not go wrong and becoming like the american current one. Problems for sure but Way better and Way more fair than the ameircan system when all counts and french are NEVER going to give it a way I asure you
jvaski: YES We WILL !! Some of us will pursue changes forever ....!
if obama stays in office, i'm seeing grey flannel for soon, for everybody....katt1017: Exactly, the thieves in Washington do not want to see the gravy train derailed.
We're agreed on some other points.
Sadly though most of the solutions are as practical as the mice belling the cat.
Also as long as there are a large group that believe the lies they hear in the media they will be fighting to get what the manipulators tell them they want.
I swear that many of them would fight for their right to getting kicked in the butt with tap shoes if they were told that the stinky repubes were trying to take that right away from them.
We're agreed on some other points.
Sadly though most of the solutions are as practical as the mice belling the cat.
Also as long as there are a large group that believe the lies they hear in the media they will be fighting to get what the manipulators tell them they want.
I swear that many of them would fight for their right to getting kicked in the butt with tap shoes if they were told that the stinky repubes were trying to take that right away from them.
jlw45: if obama stays in office, i'm seeing grey flannel for soon, for everybody....
I gave up. Nothing like arguing with fence posts.
Actractorguy: I gave up. Nothing like arguing with fence posts.
it's like trying to run a oposssum off of your porch...
Hot_Single_Dude: I know Freddy... but Leigh is no doc but more a duck
watch it obama boy... 
Hot_Single_Dude: I know Freddy... but Leigh is no doc but more a duck
Screw you Dude...........hateful, your just hateful.....!!!!!!!!!!!
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AGreatGuy2: ttom-- you should make do a wiki on cfrs.... I'm not sure, based on your comments, that you truely understand what it is.
The Code Federal Regulation (CFRS) change with near every piece of legislation that congress passes and the President signs.
Now if you can tell me, with the amount of legislation that is passed and signed....what is in just one of the 50 CFRs books....my
is off to you. One the major problem is no one can keep up with the CFRs. They are the endless paper mill from Washington.Dude here....would have the government...of the UNited State being one of these geo political computer games....with all sort of rule and regulations to dictate what the government agencies are doing.
That is just more power to the Congress....not to the executive office.
So I ask you the same question I asked Dude....give me one great rule or reg that any country in the world has to have?
Hot_Single_Dude: I know Freddy... but Leigh is no doc but more a duck
Instead of calling me names, why don't you answer my questions??? While I'm waiting for an answer, I'll just............
DANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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More ( any ) regulation of Health Care for starters !!!
YES YOU CAN JV!