Trouble in Wisconsin Unions yea or nay (157)

jvaski

Unions have stepped to a new low by protesting churches in California.

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Agree gardenhackle

The right to work act. Only a few States have this. This Law allows the Employees to decide for themselves whether they want to be in a Union.

The problem is that the workers that decide to be un-unionized are the first ones to be let go.

Is this discrimination by Unions and Employers and is it illegal?

it can be a very difficult thing, one person against a large conglomerate.

perhaps a work fair board instead of unions

Emma

I believe that the whole Union thing is a battle between public and private enterprise. The answer to our Economic problems is that the Federal Government should get out of the way and allow people to be inventive and start new businesses.

A volunteer board would be great, but we know that this won't likely happen because some of our Law Makers will want to control the Board and reap money.

gardenhackle

No one could say it better than you just did.

Union Intimidation and Violence

We had soemthing called a "closed-shop" allowed by legislature in Ca years back - which allowed employers to force all employees to join one union to negotiate with ......I didn;t like it then ....and I don't like it now

J

YOU SAY..."The first issue the Union has brought up in negotiations with the lawmakers in Wisconsin EVERY TIME so far has been about the Union dues. Lawmakers think it's wrong for every employee to have Union dues deducted directly from their wages, no if's ands or buts. Unions, of course, want a piece of every working man's paycheck. It tells you where their priorities are".

I SAY....that the Union dues are part of the problem and not the solution, because think of where their dues go... the UNIONS what a piece of every working man's paycheck because they know it ultimately "trickle down" to the warchest of the DEMOCRATIC PARTY... these dues, which are automatically deducted from their wages. It's kinda like money laudering on a major scale, in the form of campaign contributuions to the Democratic Party, whether they want to, or not. It is force on them! Some union workers may not even be interested in any of the Democratic Parties Platforms, at all! This is an "unholy" alliance between public sector unions, ala Teacher's Unions and the like and Democratic Party. Compare the inflated salaries( (wages plus the paid health benifits) versus that of the public sector non-union worker. It nearly DOUBLE in most cases versu that of the average non-union worker.
iI admire the Govenor's attempt to BALANCE THE BUDGET there. WISCOSIN state is an mini version scale of what has been happening in your great state in the Democratiic State of California....Wisconsin's deficit is 3.2 Billion, ours is is a WHOPPING 32 Billion. With NO END IN SITE with BALANCING YOUR BUDGIT...because if you think our Govenor Brown is going to even think about cutting benefits from our Teacher's unions, Fireman, Police, etc. ......since he's joined at the hip with the UNIONS here....who help him and any other DDemocrat get elected, you have another thing coming...his answer is tax, tax, tax, which will never balance our budget...EVER!! His answer is to kick down the road and worry about it later...you can't stop this money machine that always keeps coming in the form of money contributions, in the for of dues, from the Unions to his Democratic party. Ever wonder way this Labor Union Leader....meets with Obama three times a week in Washington??

for sure. but their is one thing here. this is not about balancing the budget bud

I don't know if you had the chance today to see the news in Madison, Wisconsin...it is turning violent.

1) A news reporter was being heckled when making a live report. Someone covered up the Camera lens and another hit him.

2) The sleep in at the Capital Building. Wisconsin Police want to remove these protesters so that they can clean. They refuse to go. In fact, they are being instructed on how to make the hands into a fist so that the handcuffs are not so tight.

This is typical of Union violence. It's not the Union members that are doing it, it's Union Leaders.

If you want to learn more about this, go to the Library and find a book about Union violence 20th Century.

The Beatles Helter Skelter

I loved that song Helter Skelter Albert! Fit right into the thread. It all comes down to taxes. The private sector does not want to pay tax money to the public sector, and vice versa.

The truth is that public employees overall make about 1/3 more money. Polls show today that many American's don't like Unions, but another poll shows that they prefer bargaining rights.

It's spit about 50/50 between the 2 polls.

Beatles Cartoon - Taxman

Yes, we all have the right to bargain, but it should be as free individuals that prove ourselves to our employers by our work merits. Otherwise it is Socialism.

I very rarely get angry, but I just saw a news report from the same reporter incident I reported above. While he was making his live report, a young man was holding up a sign that said “False News”. Mike the reporter was told live to look over his right shoulder. This wimp lowered the sign when Mike looked.

Then he put it back up again when the reporter looked back to the Camera. Another wimp came along and stuck his tongue out.

Is that Collective Bargaining?

I wanted to throw a brick at my TV. I don’t swear or use the number 1 middle finger sign, so that didn’t help my anger. (I use the term wee doggies). Instead, I watched these videos again:

Sylvester is politically correct very much of the time. Even though he needed to belong with a Union, he made it on his own. Take a lesson from Sly:

(I'm sorry that I got so angry and I appoligize, but a few of these cowards in WS are not able to express themselves).

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Rocky 3: Training Scene - 1982

one thing to validate your point is to demonize your enemy.

this really has not much to do with balancing the budget people.

workers all have a right to fair pay and conditions, no matter where they work.

if there is corruption happening, which has been proven on walkers side, get rid of him.

same would go for the union if that can be proved