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jvaski: GO OBANA !!!! YEE TES YES WE CAN !!!
Good to see you JV! How are you doing? 
Hot_Single_Dude: Good to see you JV! How are you doing?
You seem to post a lot of threads on Obama, cant you see the guy is a complete fraud??. He isnt even an American for gods sake
. Abraham Lincoln would spin in his grave at this guys tactics,...get real.
englishelegance: You seem to post a lot of threads on Obama, cant you see the guy is a complete fraud??. He isnt even an American for gods sake . Abraham Lincoln would spin in his grave at this guys tactics,...get real.
He is not american? Where the Frigg do you have this BS from ?
Get a new head, will you?
englishelegance: You seem to post a lot of threads on Obama, cant you see the guy is a complete fraud??. He isnt even an American for gods sake . Abraham Lincoln would spin in his grave at this guys tactics,...get real.
Hot_Single_Dude: Good to see you JV! How are you doing?
Hi Dude....I am doing well ...except for the two feet of snow in the front yard again today .........
How is everything over in your place ? I am still waiting for you to send me some Danish Beauties .....
jvaski: Hi Dude....I am doing well ...except for the two feet of snow in the front yard again today .........
How is everything over in your place ? I am still waiting for you to send me some Danish Beauties .....
Snow and cold weather over here as well... second periode of cold this year and really unusual one might think...How is everything over in your place ? I am still waiting for you to send me some Danish Beauties .....
Dansih beauties? All right I am going to do my best but not promissing
Hot_Single_Dude: Actually no!It is not unfair what so ever and I beleive in people,s honesty and beleive that most people no matter working in private of public sector are not trying to cheat the system when calling them selves sick.
This is one of THE main differnece between right and left... right wingers beleive people are cheaters and not beleiving in workers and explaining most illness or unemployment by being lazy and then trying to punish folks out of sickness! It is a bout: "the mad man standing in the corner of the street and keep talking a bout stuff he have no freaking clue a bout and calling any body and every body a lazy bad SOB who wants to stay home and being lazy" ... getting it his way and the words of that mad stupid fellow becoming politics of a country once in a while!
I do trust most folks and can not see or understand points made by right winged whinners and seeing upon those right winged anti humanity stoopidoes as being the worse parasites against the well fare of the country as a matter of fact... these right winged have definately NOT contributed much to equality and wellfare of countries even they actually enjoying the same wellfare them selves when ill or unemployed.
Look at these bribed right winged Repubhead politicians in America for example... they keep talking a bout repealing health care and being agianst "government" health care system and still themselves and their families do not giving up govermental health care coverage any way!
That Stupid Joe the Plumber... NOT! type do call an ambulance when in trouble and do expect the best care possible but is not willing to buy a health insurence for himself or for his employees any way and showing a damn gun when ever some body asks him for explanation
This is one of THE main differnece between right and left... right wingers beleive people are cheaters and not beleiving in workers and explaining most illness or unemployment by being lazy and then trying to punish folks out of sickness! It is a bout: "the mad man standing in the corner of the street and keep talking a bout stuff he have no freaking clue a bout and calling any body and every body a lazy bad SOB who wants to stay home and being lazy" ... getting it his way and the words of that mad stupid fellow becoming politics of a country once in a while!
I do trust most folks and can not see or understand points made by right winged whinners and seeing upon those right winged anti humanity stoopidoes as being the worse parasites against the well fare of the country as a matter of fact... these right winged have definately NOT contributed much to equality and wellfare of countries even they actually enjoying the same wellfare them selves when ill or unemployed.
Look at these bribed right winged Repubhead politicians in America for example... they keep talking a bout repealing health care and being agianst "government" health care system and still themselves and their families do not giving up govermental health care coverage any way!
That Stupid Joe the Plumber... NOT! type do call an ambulance when in trouble and do expect the best care possible but is not willing to buy a health insurence for himself or for his employees any way and showing a damn gun when ever some body asks him for explanation
How do you explain the disparity between sick days in the private and public sector? - private sector workers are not sacked for being ill(we're in the 21st centruy). How do you explain the level of sick days the workforce takes as a whole today compared to in the 1950's? And my people were not so bed-ridden with illness when the Luftwaffe were dropping bombs on England every night.
The British public sector annual average for sick days is something like 10 days. Now i'm not bed-bound for 10 days every year, my family members aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year. My friends(besides the skivers)aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year.
I think it's the everest of naivety to think people don't skive off work.
And my Dad was a shop steward in the steel industry in the 1980's, he personally led several strikes against Thatcher and Thatcher's police put him in hospital - Not everyone who doesn't agree with the Left, like me, is a heartless Right-winger.
TrueBlue1986: How do you explain the disparity between sick days in the private and public sector? - private sector workers are not sacked for being ill(we're in the 21st centruy). How do you explain the level of sick days the workforce takes as a whole today compared to in the 1950's? And my people were not so bed-ridden with illness when the Luftwaffe were dropping bombs on England every night.
The British public sector annual average for sick days is something like 10 days. Now i'm not bed-bound for 10 days every year, my family members aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year. My friends(besides the skivers)aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year.
I think it's the everest of naivety to think people don't skive off work.
And my Dad was a shop steward in the steel industry in the 1980's, he personally led several strikes against Thatcher and Thatcher's police put him in hospital - Not everyone who doesn't agree with the Left, like me, is a heartless Right-winger.
The British public sector annual average for sick days is something like 10 days. Now i'm not bed-bound for 10 days every year, my family members aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year. My friends(besides the skivers)aren't bed-bound for 10 days every year.
I think it's the everest of naivety to think people don't skive off work.
And my Dad was a shop steward in the steel industry in the 1980's, he personally led several strikes against Thatcher and Thatcher's police put him in hospital - Not everyone who doesn't agree with the Left, like me, is a heartless Right-winger.
I can not explain the disparity but I am sure most people are honest and not skive off work.
It is maybe because I am working as a public worker myself and then defending my side this way but still I have not met many collegues who are skivng off work and stuff and some few whom I have met actually were discovered and lost their jobs during my working years. In private sector production lies are disturbed when people are ill and then the employee will be more presured to get on job even sick and that si the reason number of those loosing good health working on private sector is higher.
There is a need for private sector and public sector and some of the functions of public sector will never be possible given to private sector with out result of certain shortiges in good service the citizen can receive.
You are right... not every body doesn,t agree with the left is a heartless right winger but too many right wingers are in deed heartless and do not care much a bout any body other than them selves or their closest family members... selfish and out of touch with the needs of the society and that is why the endless amount of anti taxation whinning comes from for example!
Paul Krugmann on Wiscosin situation:
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The good news from Wisconsin is that the upsurge of public outrage — aided by the maneuvering of Democrats in the State Senate, who absented themselves to deny Republicans a quorum — has slowed the bum’s rush. If Mr. Walker’s plan was to push his bill through before anyone had a chance to realize his true goals, that plan has been foiled. And events in Wisconsin may have given pause to other Republican governors, who seem to be backing off similar moves.
But don’t expect either Mr. Walker or the rest of his party to change those goals. Union-busting and privatization remain G.O.P. priorities, and the party will continue its efforts to smuggle those priorities through in the name of balanced budgets.
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Beware America... THEY want it all back already
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The good news from Wisconsin is that the upsurge of public outrage — aided by the maneuvering of Democrats in the State Senate, who absented themselves to deny Republicans a quorum — has slowed the bum’s rush. If Mr. Walker’s plan was to push his bill through before anyone had a chance to realize his true goals, that plan has been foiled. And events in Wisconsin may have given pause to other Republican governors, who seem to be backing off similar moves.
But don’t expect either Mr. Walker or the rest of his party to change those goals. Union-busting and privatization remain G.O.P. priorities, and the party will continue its efforts to smuggle those priorities through in the name of balanced budgets.
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Beware America... THEY want it all back already
Hot_Single_Dude: I can not explain the disparity but I am sure most people are honest and not skive off work.
It is maybe because I am working as a public worker myself and then defending my side this way but still I have not met many collegues who are skivng off work and stuff and some few whom I have met actually were discovered and lost their jobs during my working years. In private sector production lies are disturbed when people are ill and then the employee will be more presured to get on job even sick and that si the reason number of those loosing good health working on private sector is higher.
There is a need for private sector and public sector and some of the functions of public sector will never be possible given to private sector with out result of certain shortiges in good service the citizen can receive.
You are right... not every body doesn,t agree with the left is a heartless right winger but too many right wingers are in deed heartless and do not care much a bout any body other than them selves or their closest family members... selfish and out of touch with the needs of the society and that is why the endless amount of anti taxation whinning comes from for example!
It is maybe because I am working as a public worker myself and then defending my side this way but still I have not met many collegues who are skivng off work and stuff and some few whom I have met actually were discovered and lost their jobs during my working years. In private sector production lies are disturbed when people are ill and then the employee will be more presured to get on job even sick and that si the reason number of those loosing good health working on private sector is higher.
There is a need for private sector and public sector and some of the functions of public sector will never be possible given to private sector with out result of certain shortiges in good service the citizen can receive.
You are right... not every body doesn,t agree with the left is a heartless right winger but too many right wingers are in deed heartless and do not care much a bout any body other than them selves or their closest family members... selfish and out of touch with the needs of the society and that is why the endless amount of anti taxation whinning comes from for example!
Well you touch upon the truth by saying the private sector comes under pressure, you're right it does. This is because private eveterprise does, and has to, compete to survive.
It's this that makes me resent public sector union overactivity even more, because private sector worker's already take upon a greater share of the burden.
But at the end of the day I see my country in trouble, and i think that all members of society, rich or poor, needs to do more for less, and America is in the same boat.
Yeah ... George W Bush and his bunch of warmongers shouls really have their head examined:
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“In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as General MacArthur so delicately put it,” Mr. Gates told an assembly of Army cadets here.
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Dang Buzos and their Stupid war destroyed american and a whole world,s economy
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“In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as General MacArthur so delicately put it,” Mr. Gates told an assembly of Army cadets here.
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Dang Buzos and their Stupid war destroyed american and a whole world,s economy
Hot_Single_Dude: Paul Krugmann on Wiscosin situation:
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The good news from Wisconsin is that the upsurge of public outrage — aided by the maneuvering of Democrats in the State Senate, who absented themselves to deny Republicans a quorum — has slowed the bum’s rush. If Mr. Walker’s plan was to push his bill through before anyone had a chance to realize his true goals, that plan has been foiled. And events in Wisconsin may have given pause to other Republican governors, who seem to be backing off similar moves.
But don’t expect either Mr. Walker or the rest of his party to change those goals. Union-busting and privatization remain G.O.P. priorities, and the party will continue its efforts to smuggle those priorities through in the name of balanced budgets.
_________________________________________________
Beware America... THEY want it all back already
They got too!_______________________________________________
The good news from Wisconsin is that the upsurge of public outrage — aided by the maneuvering of Democrats in the State Senate, who absented themselves to deny Republicans a quorum — has slowed the bum’s rush. If Mr. Walker’s plan was to push his bill through before anyone had a chance to realize his true goals, that plan has been foiled. And events in Wisconsin may have given pause to other Republican governors, who seem to be backing off similar moves.
But don’t expect either Mr. Walker or the rest of his party to change those goals. Union-busting and privatization remain G.O.P. priorities, and the party will continue its efforts to smuggle those priorities through in the name of balanced budgets.
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Beware America... THEY want it all back already
And the Big Plum will fall in 2012!
Hot_Single_Dude: Exactly! You got it right Robert:
Of course Republicans trying to hurt the ameircan economy! Republicans are doing what ever to make this preisdnet Fail and making America voluranable against foreign threats.
Nobody needs to!Of course Republicans trying to hurt the ameircan economy! Republicans are doing what ever to make this preisdnet Fail and making America voluranable against foreign threats.
He is doing a TERRIFIC Job all by himself!
Doesn't look like he needs any help!
Hot_Single_Dude: Yeah ... George W Bush and his bunch of warmongers shouls really have their head examined:
___________________________________________________
“In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as General MacArthur so delicately put it,” Mr. Gates told an assembly of Army cadets here.
____________________________________________________
Dang Buzos and their Stupid war destroyed american and a whole world,s economy
___________________________________________________
“In my opinion, any future defense secretary who advises the president to again send a big American land army into Asia or into the Middle East or Africa should ‘have his head examined,’ as General MacArthur so delicately put it,” Mr. Gates told an assembly of Army cadets here.
____________________________________________________
Dang Buzos and their Stupid war destroyed american and a whole world,s economy
But we did not send a "big American land army" into ME with Iraq or Afghanistan. What sent was a very small, highly mobile, rotating of advanced weapons weilding units that we could sustain for years and years and years.
Things had changed since good General uttered those words.
You're replying to post made by: Hot_Single_Dude
Paul Krugmann on Wiscosin situation:
Wis. Assembly passes bill taking away union rights
By TODD RICHMOND Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST
Madison, Wis. (AP) — Republicans in the Wisconsin Assembly took the first significant action on their plan to strip collective bargaining rights from most public workers, abruptly passing the measure early Friday morning before sleep-deprived Democrats realized what was happening.
The vote ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But the political standoff over the bill — and the monumental protests at the state Capitol against it — appear far from over.
The Assembly's vote sent the bill on to the Senate, but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote and say they won't return unless Republican Gov. Scott Walker agrees to discuss a compromise. Republicans who control the Senate sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.
"This kind of solidifies our resolve," Democratic Sen. Chris Larson said Friday after the Assembly vote. "If we come back, they're going to ram this through without us having a say."
The governor didn't sound conciliatory Friday, saying during an afternoon appearance in Green Bay that although "we got to find a way to make it comfortable for those 14 senators to come back home," Republicans had no intention of backing off the main tenets of the bill.
Walker's proposal contains a number of provisions he says are designed to fill the state's $137 million deficit and lay the groundwork for fixing a projected $3.6 billion shortfall in the upcoming 2011-13 budget.
The flashpoint is language that would require public workers to contribute more to their pensions and health insurance and strip them of their right to collectively bargain benefits and work conditions.
Democrats and unions see the measure as an attack on workers' rights and an attempt to cripple union support for Democrats. Union leaders say they would make pension and health care concessions if they can keep their bargaining rights, but Walker has refused to compromise.
Tens of thousands of people have jammed the Capitol since last week to protest, pounding on drums and chanting so loudly that police providing security have resorted to ear plugs. Hundreds have taken to sleeping in the building overnight, dragging in air mattresses and blankets.
Paul Krugmann on Wiscosin situation:
Wis. Assembly passes bill taking away union rights
By TODD RICHMOND Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 25, 2011 5:17 PM EST
Madison, Wis. (AP) — Republicans in the Wisconsin Assembly took the first significant action on their plan to strip collective bargaining rights from most public workers, abruptly passing the measure early Friday morning before sleep-deprived Democrats realized what was happening.
The vote ended three straight days of punishing debate in the Assembly. But the political standoff over the bill — and the monumental protests at the state Capitol against it — appear far from over.
The Assembly's vote sent the bill on to the Senate, but minority Democrats in that house have fled to Illinois to prevent a vote and say they won't return unless Republican Gov. Scott Walker agrees to discuss a compromise. Republicans who control the Senate sent state troopers out looking for them at their homes on Thursday, but they turned up nothing.
"This kind of solidifies our resolve," Democratic Sen. Chris Larson said Friday after the Assembly vote. "If we come back, they're going to ram this through without us having a say."
The governor didn't sound conciliatory Friday, saying during an afternoon appearance in Green Bay that although "we got to find a way to make it comfortable for those 14 senators to come back home," Republicans had no intention of backing off the main tenets of the bill.
Walker's proposal contains a number of provisions he says are designed to fill the state's $137 million deficit and lay the groundwork for fixing a projected $3.6 billion shortfall in the upcoming 2011-13 budget.
The flashpoint is language that would require public workers to contribute more to their pensions and health insurance and strip them of their right to collectively bargain benefits and work conditions.
Democrats and unions see the measure as an attack on workers' rights and an attempt to cripple union support for Democrats. Union leaders say they would make pension and health care concessions if they can keep their bargaining rights, but Walker has refused to compromise.
Tens of thousands of people have jammed the Capitol since last week to protest, pounding on drums and chanting so loudly that police providing security have resorted to ear plugs. Hundreds have taken to sleeping in the building overnight, dragging in air mattresses and blankets.
House GOP says shutdown would be irresponsible
By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 25, 2011 5:38 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans on Friday detailed a proposal to slash $4 billion in federal spending as part of legislation to keep the government operating for two weeks past a March 4 deadline. They urged Senate Democrats to accept their approach and avoid a government shutdown.
Democrats said they were encouraged that the two sides appeared to be narrowing the gap on possible spending cuts, but warned against Republican efforts to force their position on Congress.
"A government shutdown is not an acceptable or responsible option for Republicans," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia said in a conference call where he and other Republicans promoted their plan for avoiding the first government shutdown since 1996.
They said failure to work out a deal would put the responsibility for a disruption of government services on the Democrats.
The GOP plan, to be debated on the House floor next Tuesday, includes some $1.24 billion in savings, mainly from programs that President Barack Obama had proposed cutting in the fiscal 2012 budget, and the termination of some $2.7 billion in earmarks, or special projects, that are part of this year's budget.
With only a week left before federal spending authority runs out, both parties have sought to preemptively blame the other if a shutdown does occur. Democrats who control the Senate have rejected as draconian a bill passed by the House last week that would fund the government through the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30 while carrying out $61 billion in spending cuts.
They have called for a short-term extension of federal spending so the parties can negotiate, but at current spending levels. Democrats are also discussing cuts that head in the same direction as the Republicans by focusing on earmarks and accelerating the elimination or trimming of programs recommended in Obama's 2012 budget. But the Democrats would apply the cuts to the remaining seven months of the fiscal year.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, repeated his position that approving a short-term funding bill without cuts "is unacceptable."
By JIM ABRAMS Associated Press The Associated Press
Friday, February 25, 2011 5:38 PM EST
WASHINGTON (AP) — House Republicans on Friday detailed a proposal to slash $4 billion in federal spending as part of legislation to keep the government operating for two weeks past a March 4 deadline. They urged Senate Democrats to accept their approach and avoid a government shutdown.
Democrats said they were encouraged that the two sides appeared to be narrowing the gap on possible spending cuts, but warned against Republican efforts to force their position on Congress.
"A government shutdown is not an acceptable or responsible option for Republicans," House Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia said in a conference call where he and other Republicans promoted their plan for avoiding the first government shutdown since 1996.
They said failure to work out a deal would put the responsibility for a disruption of government services on the Democrats.
The GOP plan, to be debated on the House floor next Tuesday, includes some $1.24 billion in savings, mainly from programs that President Barack Obama had proposed cutting in the fiscal 2012 budget, and the termination of some $2.7 billion in earmarks, or special projects, that are part of this year's budget.
With only a week left before federal spending authority runs out, both parties have sought to preemptively blame the other if a shutdown does occur. Democrats who control the Senate have rejected as draconian a bill passed by the House last week that would fund the government through the end of the fiscal year on Sept. 30 while carrying out $61 billion in spending cuts.
They have called for a short-term extension of federal spending so the parties can negotiate, but at current spending levels. Democrats are also discussing cuts that head in the same direction as the Republicans by focusing on earmarks and accelerating the elimination or trimming of programs recommended in Obama's 2012 budget. But the Democrats would apply the cuts to the remaining seven months of the fiscal year.
House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, repeated his position that approving a short-term funding bill without cuts "is unacceptable."
Conrad73: They got too!
And the Big Plum will fall in 2012!
No Conrad... I am going to laughing out loud of you particulary when president Obama wins the presidency in 2012 as well... wait and see And the Big Plum will fall in 2012!
ttom500: But we did not send a "big American land army" into ME with Iraq or Afghanistan. What sent was a very small, highly mobile, rotating of advanced weapons weilding units that we could sustain for years and years and years.
Things had changed since good General uttered those words.
Still your war have been THE biggest miastake made by any americna administration ever made after the Stupid war on Vietnam back then TT... this fact can never change or forgotten because the horrible results affected a whole world and still does.Things had changed since good General uttered those words.
Conrad73: Nobody needs to!
He is doing a TERRIFIC Job all by himself!
Doesn't look like he needs any help!
He is doing a TERRIFIC Job all by himself!
Doesn't look like he needs any help!
At least Dude admits the Pres is failing!
leigh2154: At least Dude admits the Pres is failing!
But through no fault of his own! Hot_Single_Dude: Still your war have been THE biggest miastake made by any americna administration ever made after the Stupid war on Vietnam back then TT... this fact can never change or forgotten because the horrible results affected a whole world and still does.
Hey,Rip van Winkle,it is 2011!Hot_Single_Dude: No Conrad... I am going to laughing out loud of you particulary when president Obama wins the presidency in 2012 as well... wait and see
Better laugh now,you won't be having much to laugh about next year,unless you gonna laugh at your self!Conrad73: But through no fault of his own!
Failing is failing....!
Conrad73: Better laugh now,you won't be having much to laugh about next year,unless you gonna laugh at your self!
Did you hear Obamas ratings slipped another 7% in January?....I think it is the biggest monthly dive since he took office!
Dude, question for you? Are you a socialist or a marxist?
Did it by chance slip anyones mind that when Bush was in office his ratings slipped too and he still became president a 2nd term.
leigh2154: At least Dude admits the Pres is failing!
When did I say so? 
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