ensight: one question for all the US people who hate pakistan..can you please tell me who created these talibans and whats the history of Osama?... i guess it will be nice to read some history than start discussion .
This is a old question. How about General Perez Musharref....who first formed and equiped the Mushadeen to fight against the Indian army in the disputed Kashmir region. Then this Mushadeen group later moved across the country to aid in the Afghan fight against the Russian. They later became the Taliban.
Do a search of Pakistani Army's "Operation Cargill". In which the Mushadeen were first used.....and ordered into battle by General Musharref.
This is just a small detail, however, the guys name is not spelled Osama...it is spelled, Usama. Doesn't change anything...simple death was too good for this man.
SummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK8,842 posts
dan_barry64: well those german SS officers were living under forged identities and had no state sponsorship unlike laden and co who are esteemed guests of ISI!!! i am sorry you guys are living in a fools paradise, acting as saviours of pakistan and giving it a clean chit,not all pakistanis are bad, no nation ever is, but your policies determine your image and the kind of state you are labelled as.and sorry to state but the terror factories are intact and churning our poor footsoldiers by brainwashing them to run errands for the terror warlords.all this is happening under the nose of the pakistan govt and with their full knowledge and collusion.
Hi R! I know how much hatred you have for Pakistan from previous conversations but unless you have inside intelligence that most of the world don't know about, I don't appreciate being called a fool. If however you dont have that insider knowledge then you are a 'victim' of media from your country as 'we' (in your opinion) are in ours
ttom500: Again to control the flow information inside the facility. Think that bin Laden....that is occassionally placing a video tape on the net....does not want to see how it is handled and cricized around the world?
I think he would have internet and TV access if it was his choice and decision.
I cant imagine a modern day strategic leader NOT having internet access...How very Fred Flinstone
they/pakistan wasnt going to let us fly over to afganistan at 1st def.sec.rummy told fly now pay later or be bombed into stoneage/nuked?paid friends like most others usa at the time was mad enuff to do it.
ensight: one question for all the US people who hate pakistan..can you please tell me who created these talibans and whats the history of Osama?... i guess it will be nice to read some history than start discussion .
ensight: one question for all the US people who hate pakistan..can you please tell me who created these talibans and whats the history of Osama?... i guess it will be nice to read some history than start discussion .
......yeah, i agree- only- it wasn't bin ladin....just a fake story to cover up obama's fake birth certificate........as regards money- unfortunately, our politicians spend money without our approval- usually against our wishes.....by the way- do you in india actually believe american news stories....?!......the whole osama bit is an obvious fake......
Conrad73: You don't build a Million Dollar Compound in the Middle of a City without raising some Eyebrows! Especially if it is built like a damn Fortress!
It amuses me why the CIA had no clues for years on this ? considering the hideout was just about a mile from th Pak milatary acadamy .and suddently appeared while elections are around the corner in the US ? . Its obvious that both the US and Pakistan knew this already and they were just fooling the people
gardenhackle: Pakistan is not the friend of the USA. And it's time the USA starts dealing with Pakistan for what it truly is; an enemy.
The president of Pakistan was interviewed by Diane Sawyer via satelitte. She asked him about knowing, for a while. He had a wicked laugh and he said, well now Obamm can run for office agan, and we helped..Meaning at this time. He lauhed . Sawyer face froze and smiling she thanked him for the interview but you could tell she was a little ruffled as what to say and could not answer. Sick, Just sick.We best be on our guard.
SummerUK: Hi R! I know how much hatred you have for Pakistan from previous conversations but unless you have inside intelligence that most of the world don't know about, I don't appreciate being called a fool. If however you dont have that insider knowledge then you are a 'victim' of media from your country as 'we' (in your opinion) are in ours
It is well worth it not to know every thing the government is doing. This was never leaked out in 24 weeks, nearly impossible to do. But they did. While we were all watching the Royal wedding or sports, Immportant , secretive businesss was going down. Wasington was on a strenuous workday, unlike us and all for the good.This selectve group and Obama watched as it was happening and you can see Sen. Clinton was quite shocked at the attack that had to be horriffic to watch. Not to know everything is good and that is for our protection. This time it worked tremedously well.Glad to be in the USA.
Sterling_WollopsMelburn't, Victoria Australia1,749 posts
hollyberries: It is well worth it not to know every thing the government is doing. This was never leaked out in 24 weeks, nearly impossible to do. But they did. While we were all watching the Royal wedding or sports, Immportant , secretive businesss was going down. Wasington was on a strenuous workday, unlike us and all for the good.This selectve group and Obama watched as it was happening and you can see Sen. Clinton was quite shocked at the attack that had to be horriffic to watch. Not to know everything is good and that is for our protection. This time it worked tremedously well.Glad to be in the USA.
SummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK8,842 posts
hollyberries: It is well worth it not to know every thing the government is doing. This was never leaked out in 24 weeks, nearly impossible to do. But they did. While we were all watching the Royal wedding or sports, Immportant , secretive businesss was going down. Wasington was on a strenuous workday, unlike us and all for the good.This selectve group and Obama watched as it was happening and you can see Sen. Clinton was quite shocked at the attack that had to be horriffic to watch. Not to know everything is good and that is for our protection. This time it worked tremedously well.Glad to be in the USA.
I know
I'm not quite sure why you quoted me and told me all that
I still think he may have died of natural causes,and his body handed over to the US.This would be good for relationships between the west and Pakistan,and obviously would siut the US perfectly. Only a thought,no proof,just a differant take on it.
SummerUKWashington UK, Tyne and Wear, England UK8,842 posts
time4fun4u: I still think he may have died of natural causes,and his body handed over to the US.This would be good for relationships between the west and Pakistan,and obviously would siut the US perfectly. Only a thought,no proof,just a differant take on it.
Do you think all of his wives, friends and people around him would keep quiet if he died of natural causes and let others take his body???
bollywood: Its just not Political Pakistan but their ally across the Globe -The US too was activly promoting terrorism in this region .They have built the entire terror together to dismantle the USSR. The common people of the subcontinent - Afghan/Pakistan/India are the victim of this nexus . DO not see Pakistan in Isolation .
You really need to educate yourself;son,and stop spreading Disinformation!
People might think you're suffering from Sour-Grape Syndrome!
bollywood: It amuses me why the CIA had no clues for years on this ? considering the hideout was just about a mile from th Pak milatary acadamy .and suddently appeared while elections are around the corner in the US ? . Its obvious that both the US and Pakistan knew this already and they were just fooling the people
Well,be amused,since you just posted another one of your Bloopers,as usual! Sour Grapes!
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i guess it will be nice to read some history than start discussion .
This is a old question. How about General Perez Musharref....who first formed and equiped the Mushadeen to fight against the Indian army in the disputed Kashmir region. Then this Mushadeen group later moved across the country to aid in the Afghan fight against the Russian. They later became the Taliban.
Do a search of Pakistani Army's "Operation Cargill". In which the Mushadeen were first used.....and ordered into battle by General Musharref.