Conrad73: Funny,I testfired the VULCAN at OERLIKON/CONTRAVES and at their Proving-Ground sometime in '67! Then it became just a souped Up FLEDERMAUS!
oh ok, then you must have had a top secret clearance then???? Either than that you are just lying through your teeth????? out of the 600 some odd units that were ever deployed of the M-163 you must have been in the US military to have had this lil adventure and clearance???
Mystyr: oh ok, then you must have had a top secret clearance then???? Either than that you are just lying through your teeth????? out of the 600 some odd units that were ever deployed of the M-163 you must have been in the US military to have had this lil adventure and clearance???
WHATEVER DUDE
20mm Vulcan,6000Rpm Gun was never Classified! and I doubt you ever pushed the switch to fire one!
SCatlyn: Using this thread to test my "repaired" internet connection... (reason double post occurred)
IMO made the thread more valuable, though... for me anyway
Well, I for one think this thread is valuable too, but only because you are appearing in it multiple times.
There's something about a beautiful face that causes even the most drab heavy dull threads suddenly spring into lightness and brightness... and captivating hues.
BB_snickers: Actually regarding what the US (and allies)is doing, this is revenge, at best justification after the true facts, far from logic.
What you're forgetting is that it is the US that began this by interfering in Mid East affairs, trespassing interlopers, invaders, occupiers.
Your 'logic' actually better fits and legally gives those rights by UN law that you posted, to the so called 'terrorists' (freedom fighters) to remove those US warmongers in their country/land by any means necessary. The US (and allies) started all of this long ago. Terrorists. Bullies, call them what you will. I prefer right wing Christian bullet heads but the terrorist/aggressor is the foreign invader, not the indigenous people.
Finding ways to justify killing people when you're in the wrong in the first place is ludicrous. .
Did I say I used the WeaponSystem,Smartie! I said that I fired the VULCAN 20 mm at Oerlikon/Contraves and at their proving-Ground! The Ammunition was developed at Oerlikon! And later the Weapon was turned into an Anti-Aircraft System! Actually the one you claim was Top-Secret!
Conrad73: Did I say I used the WeaponSystem,Smartie! I said that I fired the VULCAN 20 mm at Oerlikon/Contraves and at their proving-Ground! The Ammunition was developed at Oerlikon! And later the Weapon was turned into an Anti-Aircraft System! Actually the one you claim was Top-Secret!
I think you may have witnessed systems being fired by your government that was part of a nato treaty for your armed forces , but that's not the same thing as sitting behind the wheel and acquisitioning targets and directly working on the weapon and all that it comes with......but aint it cool
you just never get use to shock of pulling the trigger and the awesomeness of it RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
give me a million rounds, 4 systems plus gunners and loading crews and I'll control an entire battlefield of infantry and light armor plus aircraft with them
Mystyr: I think you may have witnessed systems being fired by your government that was part of a nato treaty for your armed forces , but that's not the same thing as sitting behind the wheel and acquisitioning targets and directly working on the weapon and all that it comes with......but aint it cool
you just never get use to shock of pulling the trigger and the awesomeness of it RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
give me a million rounds, 4 systems plus gunners and loading crews and I'll control an entire battlefield of infantry and light armor plus aircraft with them
I think you don't know what Oerlikon/Contraves is! Maybe you know it as RHEINMETALL!
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
BB_snickers: Actually regarding what the US (and allies)is doing, this is revenge, at best justification after the true facts, far from logic.
Thought you weren't going to respond to my post.
BB_snickers: What you're forgetting is that it is the US that began this by interfering in Mid East affairs, trespassing interlopers, invaders, occupiers.
Got a list of these invasions and such? (Some advice, don't get it off Javaski)
Your 'logic' actually better fits and legally gives those rights by UN law that you posted, to the so called 'terrorists' (freedom fighters) to remove those US warmongers in their country/land by any means necessary.
It's not my logic but international laws.Take it up with the UNSC. As for the 'US Warmongers' in the ME prior to 911, please provide a list of these as well.
BB_snickers: The US (and allies) started all of this long ago. Terrorists. Bullies, call them what you will. I prefer right wing Christian bullet heads but the terrorist/aggressor is the foreign invader, not the indigenous people.
Finding ways to justify killing people when you're in the wrong in the first place is ludicrous. .
Please quote the widely accepted definition of terrorism you are using so we can get on the same page. As for killing people I take it you mean the hundreds of thousands of lives that were saved now that Iraq is free of Saddam?
AlbertaghostCultural Wasteland, Alberta Canada5,914 posts
BB_snickers: Actually regarding what the US (and allies)is doing, this is revenge, at best justification after the true facts, far from logic.
Thought you weren't going to respond to my post.
BB_snickers: What you're forgetting is that it is the US that began this by interfering in Mid East affairs, trespassing interlopers, invaders, occupiers.
Got a list of these invasions and such? (Some advice, don't get it off Javaski)
BB_snickers: Your 'logic' actually better fits and legally gives those rights by UN law that you posted, to the so called 'terrorists' (freedom fighters) to remove those US warmongers in their country/land by any means necessary.
It's not my logic but international laws.Take it up with the UNSC. As for the 'US Warmongers' in the ME prior to 911, please provide a list of these as well.
BB_snickers: The US (and allies) started all of this long ago. Terrorists. Bullies, call them what you will. I prefer right wing Christian bullet heads but the terrorist/aggressor is the foreign invader, not the indigenous people.
Finding ways to justify killing people when you're in the wrong in the first place is ludicrous. .
Please quote the widely accepted definition of terrorism you are using so we can get on the same page. As for killing people I take it you mean the hundreds of thousands of lives that were saved now that Iraq is free of Saddam?
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