I3estman4u Forum Posts (568)

RE: "on the road again" !!!......

Hey jlw45, I wish you the best in whatever you find there. Have a safe trip.

RE: A Typical Love Story

I agree with you.

RE: A Typical Love Story

I see what you're saying John. But in all honesty, you have never said anything in haste or anger and wished you didn't after the fact? I think the ability to hold ones tongue in the heat of the moment comes with maturing...does maturing ever cease? But I know I have...even on here.

What I find interesting is that when someone does something wrong (we all have), we adhere to the fact we are human & not perfect, and as such we are prone to make blunders. However, when hurt by others with words or actions, we forget the humanness of that person and hold them to that which we would reject for ourselves....expectation of perfection. We may not say those words directly, but in action we do. Imo

The test of love is when it's given at the point of least deserving....I believe.

RE: A Typical Love Story

Well, thanks.

RE: Do you?

Yes, I'm with you on that. I'm more concerned how I fit in actually.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Nothing blind about "saving" faith. I know why I believe and what I believe. Like the Apostle Paul said, "I am convinced...".

Everyone has faith of some sort. When you fly in a plane, you have faith the pilot is not drunk and has his flying license. There are even those that do NOT have faith.....like the married person with their spouse.

If you would actually read what you deny as false, your eyes may

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Can't see anything when you close your eyes, WW.

RE: Does god hate us?

Hey there.

RE: A Typical Love Story

Hmm... you being facetious?

RE: What could make you reply someone's posting in the forum

I stand with you, Steve.

RE: Does god hate us?

Laura I do appreciate you and that you stick to your guns. Okay, I'll leave it at that with you. I could go on and ask where your parents got their morality and so on and so on and so on...but I won't.

And just so you know (I can be slow at times), I JUST got what the "M" is for! Thanks Laura.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

ooby_dooby* sorry

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

I honestly believe Ooby_dooby was not trying to be vicious, but passionately defending the little children in our society in our respective countries. I have been so conditioned to defend my faith from those that are bent on attacking God and those that choose to follow Him, that I automatically assumed ooby_dooby was doing it again. And perhaps he may have been a little given his own admission of having a non belief about God.

Sitting here looking at my response and some others towards ooby and a few others, I'm reminded once more that my battle is not against flesh and blood but against the principalities, powers and philosophies that are at work in those that do not believe. Also, that there are sincere people that are leery about giving themselves over to something they don't fully understand...I understand that, and yet at times forget that.

ooby_dooby has shown his sensitivity and passion in a few posts up. I am glad we have people like him in this world that are not afraid to stand for those that can't stand for themselves. I just pray God will not leave him alone like He didn't leave me alone.

Cheers oopby_dooby

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

hy·poc·ri·sy
/h?'p?kr?si/ Show Spelled Show IPA
–noun,plural-sies.
1.
a pretense of having a virtuous character, moral or religious beliefs or principles, etc., that one does not really possess.
2.
a pretense of having some desirable or publicly approved attitude.
3.
an act or instance of hypocrisy.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

I used to think, "Oh, I'd never do that" or "I'd never say that"...but I learned I don't fully know even my own self. Took me 6-7 years to even want to feel for anyone again...let alone God. The whole things was a mess...I was a mess. What I still have a hard time understanding, is at the moment of my greatest need, how can my ex walk away from me 3 months after it happened. I mean I understand struggles, but if someone who made the highest commitment to someone else can just walk after something like that...anyone can walk really. This has been a hurdle for me to trust people let alone someone I want to spend my life with. I understand anger at God at a deep level.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Thanks Ooby. I mean it. Means a lot. Things happen.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Yes I agree again Venus. In 2001 I came home to find my 16 year old daughter (from a previous relationship) hanging in our back yard. It was then I turned from God and everyone. Some on here think I'm cold now, they should have seen me then. But God didn't leave me alone even though I wanted nothing to do with Him. I have dealt with it about 98%. Somethings one will never know the full reason why things happen. And in all honesty, if anyone like me came up to me during those years of going my own way, I would have ripped their head off.

I want to say something about "hyprocrite". The word means to "act", "pretend". It doesn't mean that if someone isn't perfect, they can't talk about that which is perfect (God). But hypocrisy is when someone talks about the perfect as if they themselves are also when they are not. As opposed to talking about the perfect as if you are not yourself. just wanted to mention that.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Ahem...would you disagree then that you have a "belief" that there is no God?

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

In all due respect, ooby_dooby, I am convinced to the core of my being. I don't think I've presented myself as being flaky or flippant about the things I say. I mean what I say and I say (well, try to) what I mean. I would die for what I believe.

What does a man gain if he gains everything in this world, and then loses his soul when he dies? Nothing.

RE: Does god hate us?

But Conrad73, I do want to address this a little more in detail.

One of the things that Christ condemned the Pharisees for is that they were morally sound on the outside. They were the ones the people of that day looked to for spiritual guidance...much like most of the world (not incl myself) look to the RC for guidance. They did keep the Law of God on the surface....very self disciplined people. However, Christ didn't come down to heal the healthy - Matthew 9:12. Nor did Christ come for the righteous (moral), but for those that are sinners (immoral) - Matthew 9:13.

Morality can't save you no more than immorality can condemn you. I know lots of people say that if they obey the Ten Commandments they will get into heaven. Not true. For if you break the least of all those commands, you become a law breaker. Have you ever lied? But it all rests with the perfect obedience that Christ followed God that I trust in for my redemption...which is what Christians refer to The Righteousness of Christ. Obedience = Righteousness.

So you are correct in saying that all are the same when it comes to not being perfect and bad inside.

Again, well done Conrad73.

RE: Does god hate us?

Just better off after death.

RE: Does god hate us?

NOW you're talking!! Christians are NOT any better than anyone else. Well done.

RE: What could make you reply someone's posting in the forum

Steve, in all honesty, I have found you to be informative, funny, pleasant to talk to, witty and a general down to earth type of guy.

RE: What could make you reply someone's posting in the forum

Ya, I would have to agree with Steve. The pic for me has no significance.

RE: Does god hate us?

Not fear the person, but the punishment for misbehaving. You may have had no reason to cause your father to punish you for misbehaving, but can you understand what I'm saying?

I'm referring to the laws of the land. Civil and criminal. It's generally acknowledged that if there was no law at all in place (good or bad) even those that are not "criminals" would murder, steal...ect. I'm speaking in general terms because it's virtually impossible for me to know/meet everyone on this planet.

May I ask where did you get your morality from? But you still obey the law even though you may disagree with them?

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Well said Venus. From the outset, some may view somethings you said to be harsh and cold...I'm referring to the comment about it better for the child to die than be tortured. But as I read, I have to say you have insight. I shake my head trying to imagine how they could do that while even looking at the child. I know I could never live with my conscience if I ever did that.

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

Okay, you have me lost here. If not for scripture, where are you referring from? Is there a different source that God reveals Himself?

Okay I'll just take it that you were just speaking from thoughts you formed in your head. What else do I have to go on?

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

I agree 100%!

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

define "quite a bit". If you, in fact, read "quite a bit", which "bit" did you read?

RE: Warning, Disturbing Content

wonderworker, what the world today has a problem with (of many other things pertaining to God) is that He hasn't moved from His position from that of the Old Testament. His character has not changed. Even by His own admission He says He doesn't change like man. He also says that He does not judge as man judges. Man look at the outward appearance, God looks at the intent of the heart (motives). So there is nothing "Modern" about God. He simply IS.

And yes He is jealous for those that belong to Him. What parent isn't for their children?
Yes He does take vengeance towards those that come against Him and His children, I'm glad He does. Yes He also can become angry, do you? Anger is just an emotion...and yes God has emotion. He is a person. A perfect one, but a person non the less.