Covid has NOT magically gone away

The Blue States have paid the Covid price with sickness, death and broken budgets - Now its the Red States turn to suffer Trump's irrational governance.

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It was logic, that the most densely populated international hubs on the coasts would be the areas hit first and most severely impacted in total deaths and that it would spread out from those regions in a wave of infections.

The virus doesn't 'care' about the politics of the person infected. It just seeks more hosts to replicate within. It will eventually likely infect those who do not take appropriate micobiologic precautions. Currently that is the only weapon against it. Ultimately, a broad vaccine that contains several antigens may be necessary to mostly eradicate this pathogen. Initially any effective vaccine against it will be welcomed, but it may not be enough in all regions.
All this and Dr. Fauci is already talking about the second wave of virus.
I understand that to be... not 'a' second wave, but 'the' second wave.
Jim - What with genetic engineering tools like Crispr at our fingertips, vaccines of today will be whole new generation. What is needed is research funding and open sharing of information instead of hunt for patent rights.

Chatillion - unless a vaccine comes along soon, we will likely see a line of infection waves roll across the globe - airplane travel bringing the virus back again and again until the we reach a world wide herd immunity levels.
OG - So far, the vaccines that are in the trial stages, are only focused on one molecule. What may be ultimately necessary is a novel broader spectrum vaccine against several different molecules, thereby being effective against different strains that may develop.
Jim - You could be right, though to date we have been able to develop a single vaccine for our yearly flu bug - and the common cold still plagues us. On the other hand we have successes like with Polio.
Hi oG—how is CRISPR going to help with a vaccine? I d like to learn more.


I worry that CRISPR may cause the virus to be altered so that it may inadvertently become more pernicious...food for thought.confused
It depends upon whose hands the procedure is in.
Immunity, by the way, is not a given... I see scientists suggest it is temporary, unlike measles immunity. A year perhaps at a time
The second wave is a euphemism for another or the next
I doubt if this Covid will ever just disappear overnight.
NatureLover81 - CRISPR is a but a tool, not a answer. CRISPR allows gene editing at the molecular level - IE edit DNA and RNA macromolecules. What this means is we don't have to ten years of breeding viruses hoping for find a mutation that lends itself to vaccine development. Using CRISPR we can concentration on the Virus attachment point and work outwards from there in a more methodical fashion.

And yes there are dangers involved, which is why testing and more testing is an essential part of the process. In vitro testing in the lab and in vivo tests on various lab animals. And still the process is incomplete as lastly we have to bridge the gap from laboratory scale to mass production and world wide distribution.
from the NY Times

"The first coronavirus vaccine to be tested in people appears to be safe and able to stimulate an immune response against the virus, its manufacturer, Moderna, announced on Monday.

The findings are based on results from the first eight people who each received two doses of the experimental vaccine, starting in March.

Those people, healthy volunteers ages 18 to 55, made antibodies that were then tested in infected cells in the lab, and were able to stop the virus from replicating — the key requirement for an effective vaccine. The levels of those so-called neutralizing antibodies matched or exceeded the levels found in patients who had recovered after contracting the virus in the community."

I'd like to be optimistic, until then I'll be waiting this thing out. cool
this is a link to daily county and state Covid data

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