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Climbing shelfs

Someone critiqued a recent post and challenged a statement that I climb shelves at work to get motors and other parts way in the back when the lift is broken (which is most days). To them I offer this photo of me 30 feet up the shelving taken yesterday as I searched for a bearing.

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Comments (18)

Catfoot
Bravo!
Too many people around just looking for someone to say something to latch on to it, wanting to call him a liar.applause
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Mimi1973
Nice pic Ken but where's the 'Peace' sign?? confused peace peace peace
namaron
thanks for the heads up ken,,didnt realize that,,,,,,,,,,,
Ken_19
@ Mimi, why would I have a peace sign? I be Hippie, Not.
Ken_19
@ Nam no problem. It hides at the bottom of the post comment screen. I have seen at least one CS friend bite the big one for ignoring those rules if i am Not MisTaken. :)
Mimi1973
Was just teasing you Ken! grin

It irks me when friends my age do that when having their photos taken doh I noticed that it's quite prevalent amongst the Malaysian Chinese community ranging from the young right to the old uh oh
Nicefeet
Be' careful up there Ken
Hans4711
@ Ken - shock.... If you did this in Australia, WorkCover would have both your employer's and your dangly bits for garters.... frustrated

.... grin cheers
Ken_19
@ Mimi I had my co-worker hold my phone as I have more than once experienced it falling from my shirt pocket when climbing. Didn't ask her to take the picture, but she decided to. Yes, there is a lot of photos out there of people throwing both the Peace sign and the Hood's backwards peace sign. They think it means they are hep or cool if they flash a gangsta symbol for no fighting/peace. Pfui on that. Anyway it wasn't posed and if it had been, I lacked the third arm flashing a sign would need while climbing.

@ nicefoot Thanks. I have gotten pretty good lately at scrambling up those girders and struts, but yeah, I am cautious. There is usually upwards of a long ton of metal stuff on each of those shelves. Sometimes on skids, sometimes not. Stuff happens.

@ Hans Here in the US we have something called OSHA, a Federal agency that regulates worker safety. There is often a state equivalent too. They usually don't arrive until after a death or the filing of a workman's comp injury case. The reality however is the fines are usually small enough so that if we assume several months or years between fatalities larger conglomerates view the fines as 'permits' and it is considered the cost of doing business and worked into the prices of the products produced. A second reality is this is a production shop. Very crowded, a 24/7 operation. Lots of large machinery that moves and spins, sharp edges abound, even some that spit flame. Sometimes when a part breaks it does so with a bang and pieces may fly. Forklifts are careening around corners constantly. 2400 pound paper rolls are stacked end to end in towers 40 feet high. This is a very physical environment. Doesn't anyone work here without losing a half teaspoon of blood every week. <Tie a rag over it and continue work.> Matter of fact, if someone worked here for a month or two without picking up an occasional scrape, cut or bruise, the rest of us would probably not consider them a very good worker. Yes, technically we should use the lift or a cage. The lift is broken and no one wants to halt production by halting the flow of replacement parts for the half day it would take to fix it. The cage requires a fork lift to raise it and they are busy on other tasks. I could pull one off, but then I would have to listen to the other dept. b&tching about the 20 minutes I 'stole' their forklift. Easier to just get the part. Yeah a climbing harness. Impractical. Sometimes up there you have to swing and jump. Harness would hamper that. Neither the OSHA nor the state can fine the workers, so we just go get the part and try not to get badly hurt while doing so. LoL, white collar supervisors, sales pukes and office workers are carefully placed in another (clean and air conditioned) wing of the building with no view windows and what they don't see going on won't hurt them.
ken
Don't look down!!!...play it safe!!wine
Hans4711
@ Ken - wow .. That’s the kind of workplace mentality existed here 20 plus years ago and is no longer tolerated today.

Occupational Health and Safety (OH&S) is a major player in any business these days, every business who employs anyone has to pay into the Work Cover insurance scheme by law and a complete Safe Working Statement needs to be submitted for approval and updated everytime something changes in the workplace.

Larger companies like yours employ safety officers and all companies must induct you before you can place a foot on the floor or site, the safety induction process can take up to half a day with videos followed by written exams.

Safety officers are like vultures hovering around the workplace keeping an eagle eye out for any breach of safety. If you get a cut deep enough to require a bandaid you can find yourself filling out several multi-page forms and a thorough interrogation by the safety officer, (this can take up to 3 hours) if it happens a second time you will be taken off the job and at a fixed date on your own time be expected to be re-inducted again before being allowed back on the job.

Just like yourselves, in the event of a serious injury or death, Work Cover will conduct a thorough investigation and depending on the outcome can fine or shut-down a business untill the safety issue has been corrected and all the staff have been re-inducted. A fine by Work Cover for a serious issue could bankrupt a business in this country.

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CandyPopLolli
Mmm Ken heart beating


Like a sexy secretary climbing the ladder to reach a book on the top shelf.
CandyPopLolli
Next time wear shorts.wink
Mimi1973
CandyPopLol thumbs up thumbs up grin

drinking popcorn
Ken_19
@ Hans Hmmm, has anybody bothered to do an adjusted for inflation comparison between Australia's GNP before the rules you describe were enacted, compared to present day?
Reality is what I describe is the attitude in most US production plants. Won't even mention the turkey slaughter houses down the road a piece where finger joints disappear on a fairly regular basis.
America is a little different than Australia. We use a(clean) rag because although refilled periodically the band aid box is usually empty if you open it. :)
Yes we have accident forms too (CA-1, etc.), but I don't believe anyone has bothered for anything not controllable in a few seconds. Most places are about production numbers and production bonuses. Sure, you can insist on filling out forms and safety inspections, but don't expect your quota goals to be released just because you wish to document the burn blister on your finger or the sheet metal cut on your palm. Those 3 hours of paperwork will loser your numbers. Monthly numbers review will bite you. You will also find your team leader (and many of your co-workers) requesting you be assigned to another team because lower numbers for you (as a result of a few hours of filling out forms and maybe a machine being turned off till someone comes by to see why that man needed a band aid) also mean lower numbers for the team and that means no salary bonuses for high production for anyone.

Totally different game for an incapacitation type injury, that gets some attention. <LoL, the sighn said 417 days since the last accident resulting in lost man hours, but the other day it said 3, so I guess 2nd or 3rd shift had some kind of an oooops.> But a few drops of blood because you grabbed a stapled box and one of the staples was pointing the wrong way? Nope. Suck the finger and get back to work.

Hi CandiPop Some of us do that. Maybe when it gets warmer I will. Right now though I find abraded dungarees preferable to bleeding shins although I admit sometimes I get both.
Hans4711
@ Ken - The powers to be have realised that it costs more in compo payments to victims and or falilies than would ever be lost at the production end of the scale through paperwork etc.

The end result is that there are very few workplace accidents in Australia now.... grin

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Ken_19
@ Hans We don't have that situation. Compensation for a death, loss of an eye, or a hand, etc. is fixed by statute at about $50G and this state even has a cap on the maximum of a medical malpractice claim ($250,000 I believe). So it is a license to have a dangerous place for the corporation. Let's just say a few bucks from every product sale go into a corporate kitty specifically designed for paying off the workers or their families. We understand that and we deal with it. A smaller fund probably exists for the bonuses of the workers who beat production numbers. All paid for by the consumers, not the corporation. :)
Hans4711
@ Ken - Compo payments here used to be outrageous but just prior to the new safety systems they capped compo payments (a little like you guys) so it's quite possible that you will be going down the same road as us regards safe working practices.

Before becoming supervisor in the traffic control company I was a team leader and every time we went to a new site it was my job to do a safety audit that required walking through the entire site taking note of any dangers like over-head powerlines, low-hanging tree limbs etc as well as where the sun would be at different times of the day to avoid motorists becoming blinded and not seeing our signs or controllers etc.... there were nine pages of paperwork to complete before the work crew could come on site, then we would hold what is referred to as a 'tool-box' meeting whereby all the hazards are pointed out to all on site, discussion about what steps to take in case of an emergency such as emergency assembly point, fire-fighting and first aid procedures etc. This could take from half to one hour before work starts, we were usually onsite to an hour before the road crew arrived to set up signage and secure hazards.

Now as supervisor it’s my job to organise teams for the following day, go out into the field and check that safety procedures and paperwork is being adhered to etc


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