Can a rational person beilieve in the Bible? or any religion? (154)
Yes they can , many people that believe in religion are rational people in the other aspects of their life , when they get to religion they use compartmentalisation to put it in a separate box where it does not have to stand up to the same standards as every thing else hence how they can be rational people with an irrational belief in religion
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God gave you the gift to belive and live the way you chose
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amrek: God gave you the gift to belive and live the way you chose
prove it
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amrek: God gave you the gift to belive and live the way you chose
i am agree wth u
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crotalus_p: prove it
Sure,why not
God creat us,sent in this world , leaved us independent and told us(By his Books) a very balanced life,it depend upon us that what way we select to walk
Religion is a guid for our lives,but unfortunatly we donot blieve in God,in religion and we are following our own craeted ideas/myth
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Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence. - Anonymous
amrek: God gave you the gift to belive and live the way you chose
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mrali: Sure,why not
You have yet to post anything that even resembles an attempt at evidence , I don’t think you even know what constitutes evidence 
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crotalus_p: You have yet to post anything that even resembles an attempt at evidence , I don’t think you even know what constitutes evidence
Always you are refusing all my given refrences,but it will not effect the truth,it will not effect the fact,what kind of evidence u need?God's Books are evidence but u dont blieve and u said that these are written by smarts
More educated,more intellegent,more smarts are in new century,why they are not claiming about any new religion?
can they make and prove a new one?
Answer will be NO Never.........
Becoz ,this is the wish of God and any body cannot do any thing wth his wish and also we havnt any right to make or to apply any thing new
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mrali: Always you are refusing all my given refrences,but it will not effect the truth,
The most you have ever done is point at books riddled with flaws mrali: what kind of evidence u need?
mrali: God's Books are evidence but u dont blieve and u said that these are written by smarts
I never said they where written by smart people , they where not written by smart people , smart people would not of written such flawed books some of them go as far as to offer information that would be considered outdated even for the time they where written mrali: More educated,more intellegent,more smarts are in new century,why they are not claiming about any new religion?
can they make and prove a new one?
Answer will be NO Never.........
can they make and prove a new one?
Answer will be NO Never.........
Scientology o look i just proved you wrong (and there are plently more)
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mrali: ,what kind of evidence u need?
Evidence consisting of provable facts , nothing more nothing less
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crotalus_p: Evidence consisting of provable facts , nothing more nothing less
There are many things that can not be proven by facts at all - yet we believe them none the less. Western science has compartmentalised all study of everything - even emotion or the mind. Rationally you would not say that your mind exists, because it cannot be measured by any instrument known to man or beast! (thats just one)
Air, is another! You can't see it, you can't smell it, you can't hold it in your hand - does it exist? Have you ever seen air?
Im' not religious myself, but, scientifically speaking - belief cannot be measured - so the question is moot, and, by the way unanswerable.
cheers
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I believe the Bible is a great guideline on how to live and get along with others. I do not believe in religion. I believe in God..I believe in the person...Jesus Christ. I believe he was and is a great teacher.
But to follow some religion that picks and chooses what to believe in the Bible...it's silly. JMO
I believe in the theory of wholes and parts.
But to follow some religion that picks and chooses what to believe in the Bible...it's silly. JMO
I believe in the theory of wholes and parts.
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you guys could argue for the rest of eternity but you know none of you are ever gonna stop and say hey your right i'll change my ways right now .
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adamisk: you guys could argue for the rest of eternity but you know none of you are ever gonna stop and say hey your right i'll change my ways right now .
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galaxy15: There are many things that can not be proven by facts at all - yet we believe them none the less. Western science has compartmentalised all study of everything - even emotion or the mind. Rationally you would not say that your mind exists, because it cannot be measured by any instrument known to man or beast! (thats just one)
Air, is another! You can't see it, you can't smell it, you can't hold it in your hand - does it exist? Have you ever seen air?
Im' not religious myself, but, scientifically speaking - belief cannot be measured - so the question is moot, and, by the way unanswerable.
cheers
Air, is another! You can't see it, you can't smell it, you can't hold it in your hand - does it exist? Have you ever seen air?
Im' not religious myself, but, scientifically speaking - belief cannot be measured - so the question is moot, and, by the way unanswerable.
cheers
thats ALLLL im sayin
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adamisk: you guys could argue for the rest of eternity but you know none of you are ever gonna stop and say hey your right i'll change my ways right now .
indeed
hi you two
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I do not require divine interpretations in order to give my life meaning. I could argue for eternity as adam says regarding my own views on this. However to insinuate people of faith are insane is stretching the boundaries of good taste. Irrational, maybe, but as much as I take offense at people saying liberalism is a mental disorder, I likewise take offense at people suggesting religious belief is insane. People believe all kinds of things that can't be proven right or wrong one way or the other. But we must all accord each other a modicum of respect and civility that comes with common courtesy or be proven hypocrites. My belief in an atheist viewpoint is my own, and I will defend my right to believe that. As long as it doesn't enter the public or political arena, I will likewise defend my opponents right to his personal view, and suggest a level of discourse that lends itself to mutual respect accorded speech or communication with another living being.
That is all I have to say on the matter. End of Rant.
That is all I have to say on the matter. End of Rant.
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GoodHeartforYou: http://godisimaginary.com/
Personally, I believe it is asking too much of us to believe that God would write, or inspire, a book that mankind could not agree upon. A book that has caused endless wars, persecutions, torture, bigotry and hatred. A book that is so unintelligible that not only do "non-believers" reject it, but those who believe it to be the true word of God cannot agree upon its interpretation. There are hundreds of different Christian sects in the United States alone, and that does not include the countless thousands of private individuals who have their own, personal, interpretations of the Bible.
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Belief requires one to accept a truth without any support or proof.
Religious "leaders" in their Churches, Temples, Synagogues, etc... and on Television expound daily and weekly on the "relationship" and supposed "teachings" of an unseen "entity" that supposedly guided common men to write his teachings into a book thousands of years ago....
Believe religion to be the cause of most of our worlds problems.
Believe a person who claims to communicate or be "touched" by an imaginary "God" should be considered insane - schiziod, and not given a tax free pulpit to expound from.
Believe procuring money under the guise of "saving" people should be a felony.
Believe humans to have the capacity to be moral and virtuous without a belief in the unseen.
yada yada yada
Believe - Everyone has ability to create their own Peace Love and Passion
Personally, I believe it is asking too much of us to believe that God would write, or inspire, a book that mankind could not agree upon. A book that has caused endless wars, persecutions, torture, bigotry and hatred. A book that is so unintelligible that not only do "non-believers" reject it, but those who believe it to be the true word of God cannot agree upon its interpretation. There are hundreds of different Christian sects in the United States alone, and that does not include the countless thousands of private individuals who have their own, personal, interpretations of the Bible.
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Belief requires one to accept a truth without any support or proof.
Religious "leaders" in their Churches, Temples, Synagogues, etc... and on Television expound daily and weekly on the "relationship" and supposed "teachings" of an unseen "entity" that supposedly guided common men to write his teachings into a book thousands of years ago....
Believe religion to be the cause of most of our worlds problems.
Believe a person who claims to communicate or be "touched" by an imaginary "God" should be considered insane - schiziod, and not given a tax free pulpit to expound from.
Believe procuring money under the guise of "saving" people should be a felony.
Believe humans to have the capacity to be moral and virtuous without a belief in the unseen.
yada yada yada
Believe - Everyone has ability to create their own Peace Love and Passion
Being rational is just a crappy and destructive invention... we do not fit into that definition at all, we are just simple creatures living our life with our humanity and it includes all sort of beliefs, hopes, and myths.
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I think, believing is one of the characteristics of human mind. We all do believe in something in someway. And belief is in deed a source of unlimited energy in our lives.
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Personally, I believe it is asking too much of us to believe that God would write, or inspire, a book that mankind could not agree upon. A book that has caused endless wars, persecutions, torture, bigotry and hatred. A book that is so unintelligible that not only do "non-believers" reject it, but those who believe it to be the true word of God cannot agree upon its interpretation. There are hundreds of different Christian sects in the United States alone, and that does not include the countless thousands of private individuals who have their own, personal, interpretations of the Bible.
History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Belief requires one to accept a truth without any support or proof.
Religious "leaders" in their Churches, Temples, Synagogues, etc... and on Television expound daily and weekly on the "relationship" and supposed "teachings" of an unseen "entity" that supposedly guided common men to write his teachings into a book thousands of years ago....
Believe religion to be the cause of most of our worlds problems.
Believe a person who claims to communicate or be "touched" by an imaginary "God" should be considered insane - schiziod, and not given a tax free pulpit to expound from.
Believe procuring money under the guise of "saving" people should be a felony.
Believe humans to have the capacity to be moral and virtuous without a belief in the unseen.
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