Before I go any further, this is NOT about anyone in particular.
The way this subject came up for me is within the past week or two I've heard several of you say you met someone on CS, fell in love and are now together and very happy.
But I am wondering, is that really the order that it happened.
Some say they are in love with someone on CS but never met.
How do you fall in love with images on a computer screen or words over the phone. I'm not being facitious.... I'm being realistic.
I have no doubt that someone will say "you just get a feeling that he/she is real".
I personally need to be in the presence of the person I care about to develop charisma and a connection with him.
I need to look into his eyes....the heart of his conscience.
I believe that you are not what you say....you are what you do.
I believe that people can fall in love over the computer because real love is about who you are, and communicating over the computer allows us to get to know someone in their true form, even if not completely. When you are on the forums for an extended period of time, you tend to hang loose and be yourself. Combine this with e-mail which is more personal and you get to see two sides of a person.
Nothing is 100% but I really think it helps for all who are not blind and refuse to see. Those will never really know anyone.
You can develope a strong attraction to precieved ideas of the person. But you really can't get to know them until you spend physical time with them. What is that old saying,"You really don't know someone until you have lived with them." I think that is why there are so many faliures in on-line dating. They develope an attraction to someone, meet and there is no physical attraction. Some success stories, but more failures. Same as in physical life.
Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia3,764 posts
Im not into the eyes thingie for starters as I dont bend that way
I can only say that when it hits you like a ton of bricks you will know..
Ive chatted with many and to have someone make you sit up and listen to your innerself telling you hey this guy is the best thing since sliced bread not that I eat bread
Mercedes1Sydney, New South Wales Australia3,764 posts
buzzy: You can develope a strong attraction to precieved ideas of the person. But you really can't get to know them until you spend physical time with them. What is that old saying,"You really don't know someone until you have lived with them." I think that is why there are so many faliures in on-line dating. They develope an attraction to someone, meet and there is no physical attraction. Some success stories, but more failures. Same as in physical life.
If I fell in lust with someone, and he fell in lust with me, and then we later meet and fall in love. I ain't gonna question it, or worry about it, I am going to just enjoy the ride.
I'm not sure, Corinne. I think it depends on how much you trust that the person is being their real self online and on the phone. But I agree that you don't know for sure until you meet in person. Friendship is one thing, romantic love is another, and takes a certain physical chemistry that one can't know about for sure until you actually meet.
And I'll disagree with one post...sometimes you can live with someone and not really know them. Been there...lived with a man, and was engaged, and didn't really get to know the real him until after we were married. He had lived a lie about himself until then...had been everything I wanted and needed in a man until that ceremony was performed and I was legally bound to him. Then he changed...and that's not just my perception, many saw it. So, even in person, you can't really know for sure.
pubwrite08: If I fell in lust with someone, and he fell in lust with me, and then we later meet and fall in love. I ain't gonna question it, or worry about it, I am going to just enjoy the ride.
This makes sense. Lust is not a bad word. Good for you.
druidess6308: I'm not sure, Corinne. I think it depends on how much you trust that the person is being their real self online and on the phone. But I agree that you don't know for sure until you meet in person. Friendship is one thing, romantic love is another, and takes a certain physical chemistry that one can't know about for sure until you actually meet.
And I'll disagree with one post...sometimes you can live with someone and not really know them. Been there...lived with a man, and was engaged, and didn't really get to know the real him until after we were married. He had lived a lie about himself until then...had been everything I wanted and needed in a man until that ceremony was performed and I was legally bound to him. Then he changed...and that's not just my perception, many saw it. So, even in person, you can't really know for sure.
Hey Dru....Truer words were never spoken. You don't know someone until you live under the same roof. I worked with someone that I dated for two years. Fell in love with him. He moved to another state and asked me to come along. I said no at first but then changed my mind and it was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made. Once I lived with him he was a different person.
Snuggs09: Hey Dru....Truer words were never spoken. You don't know someone until you live under the same roof. I worked with someone that I dated for two years. Fell in love with him. He moved to another state and asked me to come along. I said no at first but then changed my mind and it was one of the biggest mistakes I've ever made. Once I lived with him he was a different person.
Like I said, even living under the same roof doesn't always tell you what they're like. I lived with the last husband that I divorced for 6 months before we married...still didn't know the real him.
How many women have discovered they were married to murderers and such, and never suspected it? Do you ever really know another?
Snuggs09: Before I go any further, this is NOT about anyone in particular.
The way this subject came up for me is within the past week or two I've heard several of you say you met someone on CS, fell in love and are now together and very happy.
But I am wondering, is that really the order that it happened.
Some say they are in love with someone on CS but never met.
How do you fall in love with images on a computer screen or words over the phone. I'm not being facitious.... I'm being realistic.
I have no doubt that someone will say "you just get a feeling that he/she is real".
I personally need to be in the presence of the person I care about to develop charisma and a connection with him.
I need to look into his eyes....the heart of his conscience.
I believe that you are not what you say....you are what you do.
Hi Snuggs,
I have read, and had discussions with a quantum physicist, about the nature of thoughts and how people can communicate from afar, sometimes without even speaking or hearing the other person's voice. Concepts such as 'transmutation' exist and can be 'quantified' and measured by q/ph's.
We form holographic images every time we have a thought, plus vivid image, plus intense emotion attached to that visualisation. It is this process that is the very beginning of manifesting the real thing. UNfortunately, often times we can cancel out or neutralise this process by our negative thoughts and emotions.
Essentially, it is very possible to 'fall in love with a computer monitor" as you put it, even only through words on a screen, because we process those words, as per above.
I think as a man who is self described as a visual person I believe you can fall in love with an image on the computer. We go to movies and find outselves attracted to the movie star. We watch television and lust for someone on the screen. We watch videos on our computers and long for that person. I read the news on my computer and see pictures of women and I find myself drawn to them.
We all know men and women are different in many ways. I do believe guys are more visual than women. So to answer the OP question I think we can build up an image into our minds that become very powerful. Is it love, I doubt it. It could develop into a relationship that good lead to love.
I disagree with you final sentence. You state that we are not what we say. I truly believe a man is exactly what he says. We hold our leaders accountable for each word that comes out of their mouth. A man lives by his word. His actions must follow his word to be consistant.
I have read, and had discussions with a quantum physicist, about the nature of thoughts and how people can communicate from afar, sometimes without even speaking or hearing the other person's voice. Concepts such as 'transmutation' exist and can be 'quantified' and measured by q/ph's.
We form holographic images every time we have a thought, plus vivid image, plus intense emotion attached to that visualisation. It is this process that is the very beginning of manifesting the real thing. UNfortunately, often times we can cancel out or neutralise this process by our negative thoughts and emotions.
Essentially, it is very possible to 'fall in love with a computer monitor" as you put it, even only through words on a screen, because we process those words, as per above.
Clear as mud?
Hi Venere
I agree that we form images to the point of what the person is doing at the time we talk to them. I may think he is smiling because of something I said, or he is listening intently because I'm upset about something.
We "see what we want to see" and then we have only ourselves to blame for reading into what he or she said.
I agree that we form images to the point of what the person is doing at the time we talk to them. I may think he is smiling because of something I said, or he is listening intently because I'm upset about something.
We "see what we want to see" and then we have only ourselves to blame for reading into what he or she said.
Hi Snuggs,
Yes, we do what you said. That is a small portion of the equation, and not quite what I was referring to.
There is an art to the process of creating and manifesting. Probably too boring to deal with on this thread. But much is written about it these days if anyone is interested.
Big_John: I think as a man who is self described as a visual person I believe you can fall in love with an image on the computer. We go to movies and find outselves attracted to the movie star. We watch television and lust for someone on the screen. We watch videos on our computers and long for that person. I read the news on my computer and see pictures of women and I find myself drawn to them.
We all know men and women are different in many ways. I do believe guys are more visual than women. So to answer the OP question I think we can build up an image into our minds that become very powerful. Is it love, I doubt it. It could develop into a relationship that good lead to love.
I disagree with you final sentence. You state that we are not what we say. I truly believe a man is exactly what he says. We hold our leaders accountable for each word that comes out of their mouth. A man lives by his word. His actions must follow his word to be consistant.
Good morning John
Let's be hypothetical here....
You and I write in private email. We get along, we get happy, we talk on the phone, we hear from each other what we want to hear and each of us decides I like him, I like her. All we know about each other is what we tell each other in email or on the phone.
This goes on for five months. We don't see how each other handles themselves in real life. Computers are not real life. They are a means of communication.
The reason I say "you are what you do...not what you say" is because ..... talk is cheap and you can say anything you want on the phone or through a keyboard. But if you do something for someone, that is part of who you are.
Let's say my daughter is in the hospital. You say, I wish I could be there to help you. I perceive that to mean, you would be by my side comforting me, but in real life you aren't the kind of person who believes in listening to me cry about something.
You and I write in private email. We get along, we get happy, we talk on the phone, we hear from each other what we want to hear and each of us decides I like him, I like her. All we know about each other is what we tell each other in email or on the phone.
This goes on for five months. We don't see how each other handles themselves in real life. Computers are not real life. They are a means of communication.
The reason I say "you are what you do...not what you say" is because ..... talk is cheap and you can say anything you want on the phone or through a keyboard. But if you do something for someone, that is part of who you are.
Let's say my daughter is in the hospital. You say, I wish I could be there to help you. I perceive that to mean, you would be by my side comforting me, but in real life you aren't the kind of person who believes in listening to me cry about something.
This is all make believe John.
We are going to agree to disagree on this subject. You seem to want to be able to separate words an actions. Whether the words are spoken in 'real life', written letters, or the internet does not differ in what we expect from people. It is the same as people actions in physically doing things. Your example does not matter how the words were expressed, the people did not follow through with their intentions.
There are good in bad in both worlds. I am a trusting man and believe there are good people here in this 'internet' world. I refused to eliminate everyone here because the big bad wolf has scared many of you.
Big_John: We are going to agree to disagree on this subject. You seem to want to be able to separate words an actions. Whether the words are spoken in 'real life', written letters, or the internet does not differ in what we expect from people. It is the same as people actions in physically doing things. Your example does not matter how the words were expressed, the people did not follow through with their intentions.
There are good in bad in both worlds. I am a trusting man and believe there are good people here in this 'internet' world. I refused to eliminate everyone here because the big bad wolf has scared many of you.
Oh boy, I figured it would come to this. I never implied that you are not a trusting man. It was a hypothetical scenario
And yes, we will agree to disagree with respect to each other.
John, this has nothing to do with trusting people on the computer. It has nothing to do with scammers.
It has everything to do with emotions. How we perceive what someone says to us.
It's about people who say they are in love with someone they met on the computer but never met in real life.
druidess6308: And I'll disagree with one post...sometimes you can live with someone and not really know them. Been there...lived with a man, and was engaged, and didn't really get to know the real him until after we were married. He had lived a lie about himself until then...had been everything I wanted and needed in a man until that ceremony was performed and I was legally bound to him. Then he changed...and that's not just my perception, many saw it. So, even in person, you can't really know for sure.
This is just my point. You really didn't get to know the real person until you get to that certain point in your lives, when his true self immerged. You can't get to that point if you are not in a physical relationship. Until that time you only have what you precieve in your mind. What you precieve may be correct, or maybe not. But you won't know until you meet in physical life.
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The way this subject came up for me is within the past week or two I've heard several of you say you met someone on CS, fell in love and are now together and very happy.
But I am wondering, is that really the order that it happened.
Some say they are in love with someone on CS but never met.
How do you fall in love with images on a computer screen or words over the phone. I'm not being facitious.... I'm being realistic.
I have no doubt that someone will say "you just get a feeling that he/she is real".
I personally need to be in the presence of the person I care about to develop charisma and a connection with him.
I need to look into his eyes....the heart of his conscience.
I believe that you are not what you say....you are what you do.