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Apr 5, 2009 10:25 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
drivenbysound
drivenbysounddrivenbysoundSoutheast, Missouri USA12 Threads 3,228 Posts
jlb684: I agree with you, John, and it is because of this very thing (building up images in our minds) that I think people who are interested in each other online should make every effort to meet as soon as possible. Built-up images can be a slippery slope; sometimes the image becomes bigger and better than the person can live up to. We're all just people and we must avoid being put on anyone's mental pedestal...it can be a long fall from up there.
Attraction and interest and desire can indeed be found online; keeping it in reality is a bit more difficult. I really do feel strongly that prolonging the flirtations and emails (though they may be fun and good for one's ego) is just not a good idea; an early meeting is best, if at all possible. When there is a great distance to deal with, it may take some time before a meeting can take place. But how much time does anyone really want to invest in building a virtual relationship with someone who is far away? Until you actually meet and spend time with each other, the relationship isn't really a relationship, in my opinion. It is just an expression of a possible interest.
I don't believe one can love someone without having met them, seen them smile, held their hand, witnessed them interact with others, and...yes...looked into their eyes.


This sums it up for me..final answer..lol
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Apr 5, 2009 10:30 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
nurcnurc
nurcnurcnurcnurcLongwood, Florida USA6 Threads 1,192 Posts
nurcnurc: My point is not about appearances although I made the example of pictures. I'd much prefer no picture as to one posting a pic of someone else or very old, because to me that is dishonest. My point is that BOTH parties should be honest. I'm agreeing with you on that point. ExpectatingExpectations of honesty and receiving less than that is what causes people to "fall in love" with the image projected on the computer. IRL once you meet and finding out honesty is not what the person is brings disappointment and then increased caution and even no faith in this medium.


Typo.

Also wanted to add that I no longer expect honesty. I am surprised by it instead.
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Apr 5, 2009 10:31 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
kidatheart: No, I wouldn't say it unless I meant it, but I do believe it's possible to fall in love with someone you meet online, even before meeting in person.

I think this thread has more to do with trust than love, from reading all the posts, although they do go hand in hand. If you're not able to trust, whether it's the other person, or yourself, then how can you expect to be able to fall in love, on here or anywhere?


It's not about trust.

Let's assume that you practice the kind of love that Nurc described and that you care for someone on the computer. You think you love her. Eventually you say you love her and mean it. By saying you love her, you would mean that you would do for her what Nurc said she would do for a man. Is that correct?
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Apr 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
Snuggs09: It's not about trust.

Let's assume that you practice the kind of love that Nurc described and that you care for someone on the computer. You think you love her. Eventually you say you love her and mean it. By saying you love her, you would mean that you would do for her what Nurc said she would do for a man. Is that correct?


I didn't read Nurc state how she would love a man, so it's hard to comment. I read what she said about trust and honesty.
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Apr 5, 2009 10:41 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
jlb684: I agree with you, John, and it is because of this very thing (building up images in our minds) that I think people who are interested in each other online should make every effort to meet as soon as possible. Built-up images can be a slippery slope; sometimes the image becomes bigger and better than the person can live up to. We're all just people and we must avoid being put on anyone's mental pedestal...it can be a long fall from up there.
Attraction and interest and desire can indeed be found online; keeping it in reality is a bit more difficult. I really do feel strongly that prolonging the flirtations and emails (though they may be fun and good for one's ego) is just not a good idea; an early meeting is best, if at all possible. When there is a great distance to deal with, it may take some time before a meeting can take place. But how much time does anyone really want to invest in building a virtual relationship with someone who is far away? Until you actually meet and spend time with each other, the relationship isn't really a relationship, in my opinion. It is just an expression of a possible interest.
I don't believe one can love someone without having met them, seen them smile, held their hand, witnessed them interact with others, and...yes...looked into their eyes.


Good points and I agree with them; however, I find there are two totally different camps of ladies on the internet; one wants to write, IM, talk and explore every aspect of you prior to meeting and then are still extremely cautious; the second is like you expressed where you think a meeting should occur quickly. Distance is alway a factor for most people--not me!

Many are open and share, but most withhold information for fear of the big bad internet wolf! For me, life is too short to not be trusting. Can I be hurt? Yes. Should I be scared of being hurt: no... I refuse to worry about the dishonest ones. I find in my humble opinion they are easy to spot and easy to eliminate from your life.
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Apr 5, 2009 10:43 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Paradox67
Paradox67Paradox67Collegeville, Pennsylvania USA9 Threads 5 Polls 1,170 Posts
Snuggs09: Good morning John

Let's be hypothetical here....

You and I write in private email. We get along, we get happy, we talk on the phone, we hear from each other what we want to hear and each of us decides I like him, I like her. All we know about each other is what we tell each other in email or on the phone.

This goes on for five months. We don't see how each other handles themselves in real life. Computers are not real life. They are a means of communication.

The reason I say "you are what you do...not what you say" is because ..... talk is cheap and you can say anything you want on the phone or through a keyboard. But if you do something for someone, that is part of who you are.

Let's say my daughter is in the hospital. You say, I wish I could be there to help you. I perceive that to mean, you would be by my side comforting me, but in real life you aren't the kind of person who believes in listening to me cry about something.

This is all make believe John.



Consider this though. Even our communication via e-mail or a forum is an action coming from an individual. You may not be there with the person but the action is taking place all the same. To say that nothing that we communicate through a forum or e-mail can be believed is to say that we should not be trusting what we are reading about each other right now. Yet we are replying to each other as if we have somehow accepted what someone else has said as their true opinion.

professor
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Apr 5, 2009 10:59 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Snuggs09: Good morning John

Let's be hypothetical here....

You and I write in private email. We get along, we get happy, we talk on the phone, we hear from each other what we want to hear and each of us decides I like him, I like her. All we know about each other is what we tell each other in email or on the phone.

This goes on for five months. We don't see how each other handles themselves in real life. Computers are not real life. They are a means of communication.

The reason I say "you are what you do...not what you say" is because ..... talk is cheap and you can say anything you want on the phone or through a keyboard. But if you do something for someone, that is part of who you are.

Let's say my daughter is in the hospital. You say, I wish I could be there to help you. I perceive that to mean, you would be by my side comforting me, but in real life you aren't the kind of person who believes in listening to me cry about something.

This is all make believe John.


I disagree, Snuggs. And if that person is there for you on the phone while you cry, then they are being there as much as they can. Sadly, when distance is involved, we can't get the arms around us when we want them, but we can at least still get love and comfort from that person. It's part of what one accepts with a LDR. Some of us can handle that...and some of us can't. And that's okay.

But never do I consider this to be "make-believe". My interactions with others on here are real, and from my heart. I am real on here and write from my heart. It's who I am, regardless of the medium of interaction.
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Apr 5, 2009 10:59 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
takeit4granted: when the possibility of human contact is impossible for the time being,,this can be a great medium for getting a wonderful feel for someone. I just had a conversation with a wonderful woman about this,,,those urges to jump into a physical relation are impossible,,and intimate conversations about wants and desires can help us get a better feel for someone on the other side of the screen,,,making that relationship even more desirable,,conversations that may not have taken place when they should have


Im tempted to do you for Plaugerism!!!laugh laugh laugh

smitten

There is no quick way to really falling in love. You can fall in lust, or infatuation, or imagery, but falling love comes over time. It comes from listening, talking, crying, laughing touching and exploring - both emotionally and physically.

This is why Ive changed my views on LDRs; the temptation to jump into bed with each other - however much you may want to - is not an option. So you explore all the other facets of each other first.

In my opinion, that is more likely to produce a lasting relationship than one that is based on pure lust from just meeting someone in a bar alone..
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Apr 5, 2009 11:01 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
petalbabe: Im tempted to do you for Plaugerism!!!



There is no quick way to really falling in love. You can fall in lust, or infatuation, or imagery, but falling love comes over time. It comes from listening, talking, crying, laughing touching and exploring - both emotionally and physically.

This is why Ive changed my views on LDRs; the temptation to jump into bed with each other - however much you may want to - is not an option. So you explore all the other facets of each other first.

In my opinion, that is more likely to produce a lasting relationship than one that is based on pure lust from just meeting someone in a bar alone..



wanna go out for a drink? devil smitten smitten
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Apr 5, 2009 11:05 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
petalbabe
petalbabepetalbabeOgdensburg, New York, Cork Ireland61 Threads 1 Polls 3,101 Posts
takeit4granted: wanna go out for a drink?


Ooooooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah....devil devil

laugh laugh laugh

smitten
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Apr 5, 2009 11:05 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
druidess6308: I disagree, Snuggs. And if that person is there for you on the phone while you cry, then they are being there as much as they can. Sadly, when distance is involved, we can't get the arms around us when we want them, but we can at least still get love and comfort from that person. It's part of what one accepts with a LDR. Some of us can handle that...and some of us can't. And that's okay.

But never do I consider this to be "make-believe". My interactions with others on here are real, and from my heart. I am real on here and write from my heart. It's who I am, regardless of the medium of interaction.


You may have misuderstood my example Dru.

I was trying to say that a person can be one thing on the computer and another thing in real life. If he said to me "geez honey, I feel bad for you, I wish I could sit with you in the hospital all day to help you....and then when it becomes real life...he's not sitting there with me because he thinks it's a waste of time or for some other reason.

I can't fall in love with someone until I see who they are in addition to hearing who they say they are.
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Apr 5, 2009 11:06 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
petalbabe: Im tempted to do you for Plaugerism!!!



There is no quick way to really falling in love. You can fall in lust, or infatuation, or imagery, but falling love comes over time. It comes from listening, talking, crying, laughing touching and exploring - both emotionally and physically.

This is why Ive changed my views on LDRs; the temptation to jump into bed with each other - however much you may want to - is not an option. So you explore all the other facets of each other first.

In my opinion, that is more likely to produce a lasting relationship than one that is based on pure lust from just meeting someone in a bar alone..


Agreed, Petal. wine
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Apr 5, 2009 11:07 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
petalbabe: Ooooooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah....


rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing applause
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Apr 5, 2009 11:08 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
takeit4granted
takeit4grantedtakeit4grantednew berlin, Wisconsin USA4 Threads 785 Posts
petalbabe: Ooooooooooooooooh yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah....


you cute little harlot smitten
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Apr 5, 2009 11:09 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Thalassa
ThalassaThalassaRome, Lazio Italy104 Threads 2,410 Posts
Big_John: ....Many are open and share, but most withhold information for fear of the big bad internet wolf! For me, life is too short to not be trusting. Can I be hurt? Yes. Should I be scared of being hurt: no... I refuse to worry about the dishonest ones. I find in my humble opinion they are easy to spot and easy to eliminate from your life.


Concur.
With me, everyone starts on the same basic level....honest until proven dishonest, likeable until proven unlikeable, etc. I don't have that tiresome "You can't trust any of them" attitude and I never will. But, thankfully, I'm not deaf, dumb, or blind, either. And I, like you, find that it is pretty easy to spot and eliminate those who don't hold the same values that I do.
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Apr 5, 2009 11:10 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
waiting4u
waiting4uwaiting4uGB's Heart, Oregon USA3 Threads 1,869 Posts
kidatheart: No, I wouldn't say it unless I meant it, but I do believe it's possible to fall in love with someone you meet online, even before meeting in person.

I think this thread has more to do with trust than love, from reading all the posts, although they do go hand in hand. If you're not able to trust, whether it's the other person, or yourself, then how can you expect to be able to fall in love, on here or anywhere?


I agree, you do have to trust the other person. Whether you meet somebody online or in person. It has to start with trust because without it you have no hope of anything else.
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Apr 5, 2009 11:11 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
Snuggs09: You may have misuderstood my example Dru.

I was trying to say that a person can be one thing on the computer and another thing in real life. If he said to me "geez honey, I feel bad for you, I wish I could sit with you in the hospital all day to help you....and then when it becomes real life...he's not sitting there with me because he thinks it's a waste of time or for some other reason.

I can't fall in love with someone until I see who they are in addition to hearing who they say they are.


I do understand your point, Snuggs. But I think that they would be that way on the phone as well. My point was the opposite side of that, is all...though I agree that it's important to meet in person as soon as one can, to get a truer picture of the person.

LDRs are never easy, and not something I ever thought I'd consider for all of these reasons. And yet, someone very special came along. Life got in the way for each of us right now, but that's okay. It gives us more time to get to know each other while we work through what we're going through. If it's real, it will still be there when we're ready again. If it's not there then, it wasn't meant to be. Either way, we'll always be friends, and he'll always hold a special place in my heart. heart wings
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Apr 5, 2009 11:20 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Snuggs09
Snuggs09Snuggs09Somewhere, New Jersey USA128 Threads 1 Polls 2,615 Posts
waiting4u: I agree, you do have to trust the other person. Whether you meet somebody online or in person. It has to start with trust because without it you have no hope of anything else.


IMO when there is no trust, there can't be love.

If I fall in love with a man I'm going to have developed trust him before I give him my heart. How do I develop trust with a computer image.
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Apr 5, 2009 11:21 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
Big_John
Big_JohnBig_JohnOcean Springs, Mississippi USA19 Threads 9,767 Posts
jlb684: Concur.
With me, everyone starts on the same basic level....honest until proven dishonest, likeable until proven unlikeable, etc. I don't have that tiresome "You can't trust any of them" attitude and I never will. But, thankfully, I'm not deaf, dumb, or blind, either. And I, like you, find that it is pretty easy to spot and eliminate those who don't hold the same values that I do.


It is like we are two people, but with one mind. Somebody who thinks like me.

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Apr 5, 2009 11:28 AM CST how do you fall in love with a computer monitor....
kidatheart
kidatheartkidatheartFruitvale, British Columbia Canada30 Threads 16,544 Posts
jlb684: Concur.
With me, everyone starts on the same basic level....honest until proven dishonest, likeable until proven unlikeable, etc. I don't have that tiresome "You can't trust any of them" attitude and I never will. But, thankfully, I'm not deaf, dumb, or blind, either. And I, like you, find that it is pretty easy to spot and eliminate those who don't hold the same values that I do.


Yep. not much different for me either, even though I have been duped on here, as well as offline. Makes me feel a little naive at times, but I try not to let it effect the way I see and treat anyone else.

I have pretty good instincts, and when I don't follow them, is when I usually get disappointed. Not as much with the other person, but with myself.
I tend to believe there is good in everyone, and most are basically honest, decent people, which occasionally isn't the case. Fortunately that doesn't happen often.

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