Hell and Heaven, where are they? ( Archived) (39)

Aug 6, 2009 6:16 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
kindheart74
kindheart74kindheart74colombo, Western Sri Lanka23 Threads 1 Polls 279 Posts
A famous General went to see a renowned Zen master and asked him: "Buddhism mentions the six realms. Have you seen any? Bring me to see Hell then."

The Zen master replied: "Who are you?”

To which the general proudly answered: "I am the general of the emperor of China."

" What?! Such a stupid person like you can be a general?" The Zen Master shot back.

Hearing this, the general who was now fuming with anger, drew out his sword and shouted: “I kill you!"

The Zen Master calmly said: “I have fulfilled your request, General. You are now in the Hell Realm."

The general was embarrassed and immediately dropped his sword to the floor and apologized profusely to the Zen master.

“You are now seeing the realm of Heaven as well." The Zen master smiled.

--------- A Zen Story -----------

So friends, what do you think, where are hell and heaven? Should we die to go them or are they in our mind?
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Aug 6, 2009 6:24 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
Hell is described as a pit of fire, so it is down. Heaven is descibed as being above the sky, so it up. According to my religion they are places. conversing But from Buddhism, Hell is doing evil and heaven is doing good. So they are intensions.
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Aug 6, 2009 6:41 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
kindheart74
kindheart74kindheart74colombo, Western Sri Lanka23 Threads 1 Polls 279 Posts
cameraman: Hell is described as a pit of fire, so it is down. Heaven is descibed as being above the sky, so it up. According to my religion they are places. But from Buddhism, Hell is doing evil and heaven is doing good. So they are intensions.

should you believe your religion or shouldn't you? rolling on the floor laughing rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 6, 2009 6:43 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
kindheart74: should you believe your religion or shouldn't you?


laugh I would cause I could... Or should I??? rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 6, 2009 6:45 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
kindheart74
kindheart74kindheart74colombo, Western Sri Lanka23 Threads 1 Polls 279 Posts
cameraman: I would cause I could... Or should I???
doh OMG laugh
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Aug 6, 2009 6:47 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
rodolpho
rodolphorodolphoamsterdam, North Holland Netherlands30 Threads 3,401 Posts
Turn left or right at the crossroads on route 66devil angel
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Aug 6, 2009 6:53 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
Lagoona22
Lagoona22Lagoona22Bugibba, Majjistral Malta161 Threads 11 Polls 10,711 Posts
Go inside yourself, and when you get to the crossroads, sit down and ponder the matter until you have an answer. angel
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Aug 6, 2009 6:57 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
kindheart74: OMG


laugh Well you asked. conversing So I answered.
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Aug 6, 2009 7:31 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
CountryJeffrey
CountryJeffreyCountryJeffreyPittsburgh, Pennsylvania USA4 Threads 22 Posts
When I was a kid Hell was school and Heaven was Kennywood

Now Hell is big cities and Heaven is the country side
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Aug 6, 2009 7:43 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
gypsysoul
gypsysoulgypsysoulBangor, Michigan USA5 Threads 42 Posts
I think heaven and hell are here with us in this in this life.

It is where YOU choose to live.
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Aug 6, 2009 7:58 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
RillyNiceGuy
RillyNiceGuyRillyNiceGuySoutheast, Arkansas USA839 Threads 13,003 Posts
In the Bible, several words were translated into Hell and several into Heaven.

Hell: 1.The vally of Hinnom,used as an example of the coming 2. lake of fire in Revelation. Then there is the 3.grave.
Christ by his death went to Hell (grave) and then by his resurrection to immortality took away the keys to Hell (grave) and can give life to those that endure till the end in the faith.
In Revelation there is the lake of fire to comsume (destroy) all those not of the faith. This Lake of fire (Hell) has as part of it burning, death and the grave cast into it and they are consumed also....then there will no longer be death and the need for the grave.(abode of the dead..fig.)

Heaven: 1.where the birds fly. 2.where the stars are. 3.the spirit rhelm that we can not see into because we are flesh. When we die, those who are Christ will bw reborn as spirit to life. Then this spirit Kingdom will be opened to us. Man does not go to Heaven, since God is to come from the third Heaven and abide with man on the Earth....in the New Jerusalem (City of Peace) that comes down out of Heaven.


All other bliss and torment or such man's ideas on Heaven are to be considered as to the source.....Man....who doesn't know his head from a pumpkin most of the time.
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Aug 6, 2009 8:01 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
romanticman4u
romanticman4uromanticman4ubrainerd, Minnesota USA11 Threads 7 Polls 494 Posts
Live your life like you fear hell by obeying the laws of the bible and you will gain heaven, angel
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Aug 6, 2009 8:22 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
hibernianqueen
hibernianqueenhibernianqueenLimerick, Ireland3 Threads 2 Polls 30 Posts
So its all in the mind.
Hell is the centre of a volcano, and heaven is the sky right over it.
That's in material physical realm.
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Aug 6, 2009 8:34 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
druidess6308
druidess6308druidess6308Aliquippa, Pennsylvania USA79 Threads 13,695 Posts
CountryJeffrey: When I was a kid Hell was school and Heaven was Kennywood

Now Hell is big cities and Heaven is the country side


Hey, I know Kennywood! I understand why that was Heaven to a kid, too!

Anyway, to answer the OP...Heaven and Hell are states of mind, not physical places, IMO.

wine
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Aug 6, 2009 9:41 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
Buckg73
Buckg73Buckg73Any, New Providence Bahamas1 Threads 198 Posts
What kind of a God, if he created us, and enabled us to make bad decisions and is all loving, would send anyone to hell? Wouldn't God be the most forgiving?
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Aug 6, 2009 9:48 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
cameraman: Well you asked. So I answered.


Or would you? rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 6, 2009 9:52 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
cameraman
cameramancameramanSt. Petersburg, Florida USA29 Threads 19 Polls 2,501 Posts
mike69spain: Or would you?


laugh I would cause I could... Or should I??? rolling on the floor laughing
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Aug 6, 2009 9:55 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
RobertC2
RobertC2RobertC2Xaghra, Gozo, Gozo Malta91 Threads 8 Polls 8,344 Posts
Heaven's in the backseat of my Cadillac........... but who stole it? confused dunno help
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Aug 6, 2009 9:56 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
mike69spain
mike69spainmike69spainAlmuñécar, Andalusia Spain34 Threads 6 Polls 4,110 Posts
Subha sandyawak KH.

It is unusual to see such teachings on this site. There is a lot of religious bombardments here, I would suggest you be careful not to be drawn into them as they lead nowhere.

I like the subjects you choose, but I think you will have to explain the various realms, and also I am a little confused about naming six of them, when truly we count only five? (Or do you hold onto the half-gods still?)

Siyalude yahapath wewa

wave
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Aug 6, 2009 9:58 AM CST Hell and Heaven, where are they?
Hell, to me...is where ever my 2 X's are at any given moment!

Heaven, to me...is where ever I'm at without them! rolling on the floor laughing grin cheers
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