Should immigrants adapt ? (45)
gussi: No its not a big joke, go to spain on the coast what do you see hoards of drunken brits making fools of themselves and thnking they are the bees knees. Sorry but a very big disaggreance with you.
He said it tongue in cheek, he was making the point that Brits set up their own secular communities abroad
Hi Scouse 
I have lived on mainland europe for the last 30 years and believe me i have seen a lot of the brits etc on holiday and in their secular retreats to know what i am talking about.
Sorry still in dis-agreance
Gussi (whisk driver)
I have lived on mainland europe for the last 30 years and believe me i have seen a lot of the brits etc on holiday and in their secular retreats to know what i am talking about.
Sorry still in dis-agreance
Gussi (whisk driver)
gussi: Hi Scouse
I have lived on mainland europe for the last 30 years and believe me i have seen a lot of the brits etc on holiday and in their secular retreats to know what i am talking about.
Sorry still in dis-agreanceGussi (whisk driver)
I have lived on mainland europe for the last 30 years and believe me i have seen a lot of the brits etc on holiday and in their secular retreats to know what i am talking about.
Sorry still in dis-agreanceGussi (whisk driver)
If you read my previous two posts you will see we are in agreement.
Hi all
Have you all seen Star Wars? Do you remember the scene where all the crazy looking aliens are in a bar - every different shape and size? That would be an ideal world - no, not the aliens but the mix of people, races etc.
But how can the world ever get to that when every country has its own way of doing things.
I have a couple of points to make though.
My first is - why would we want to allow Islam to become more prominent in the UK when the muslim leaders don't (apparently) follow their own holy text by their treatment of women.
My second is - why do so many immigrants want to come to the UK anyway. What is the attraction? Is our system too soft compared with other European countries? Are we being taken advantage of? Surely it can't be for the work, there ain't that much around at the moment.
I would prefer to live in Europe or Oz/New Zealand given the opportunity simply because I think the British values are in danger of being lost by the sheer numbers of yobs we see and hear about and by the lack of manners and consideration shown by many Brits today (including immigrant Brits). I don't fancy growing old here.
Have you all seen Star Wars? Do you remember the scene where all the crazy looking aliens are in a bar - every different shape and size? That would be an ideal world - no, not the aliens but the mix of people, races etc.
But how can the world ever get to that when every country has its own way of doing things.
I have a couple of points to make though.
My first is - why would we want to allow Islam to become more prominent in the UK when the muslim leaders don't (apparently) follow their own holy text by their treatment of women.
My second is - why do so many immigrants want to come to the UK anyway. What is the attraction? Is our system too soft compared with other European countries? Are we being taken advantage of? Surely it can't be for the work, there ain't that much around at the moment.
I would prefer to live in Europe or Oz/New Zealand given the opportunity simply because I think the British values are in danger of being lost by the sheer numbers of yobs we see and hear about and by the lack of manners and consideration shown by many Brits today (including immigrant Brits). I don't fancy growing old here.
got to agree godenlady, it is respect that is dissapearing. not from any particular minority but from youth of all colours and creeds. i was never no angel but i was taught respect for my elders and also if i wanted something i worked for it!
we still live in the fairest country in the world with (in the majority) the nicest folk. but things are crumbling rapidly. we as a nation have to be cruel to be kind or the wealthy(lucky sods) will abandon this once mighty ship! now where did i put those bloody oz flight tickets?
we still live in the fairest country in the world with (in the majority) the nicest folk. but things are crumbling rapidly. we as a nation have to be cruel to be kind or the wealthy(lucky sods) will abandon this once mighty ship! now where did i put those bloody oz flight tickets?
Goldenlady: Hi all
Have you all seen Star Wars? Do you remember the scene where all the crazy looking aliens are in a bar - every different shape and size? That would be an ideal world - no, not the aliens but the mix of people, races etc.
But how can the world ever get to that when every country has its own way of doing things.
I have a couple of points to make though.
My first is - why would we want to allow Islam to become more prominent in the UK when the muslim leaders don't (apparently) follow their own holy text by their treatment of women.
My second is - why do so many immigrants want to come to the UK anyway. What is the attraction? Is our system too soft compared with other European countries? Are we being taken advantage of? Surely it can't be for the work, there ain't that much around at the moment.
I would prefer to live in Europe or Oz/New Zealand given the opportunity simply because I think the British values are in danger of being lost by the sheer numbers of yobs we see and hear about and by the lack of manners and consideration shown by many Brits today (including immigrant Brits). I don't fancy growing old here.
Have you all seen Star Wars? Do you remember the scene where all the crazy looking aliens are in a bar - every different shape and size? That would be an ideal world - no, not the aliens but the mix of people, races etc.
But how can the world ever get to that when every country has its own way of doing things.
I have a couple of points to make though.
My first is - why would we want to allow Islam to become more prominent in the UK when the muslim leaders don't (apparently) follow their own holy text by their treatment of women.
My second is - why do so many immigrants want to come to the UK anyway. What is the attraction? Is our system too soft compared with other European countries? Are we being taken advantage of? Surely it can't be for the work, there ain't that much around at the moment.
I would prefer to live in Europe or Oz/New Zealand given the opportunity simply because I think the British values are in danger of being lost by the sheer numbers of yobs we see and hear about and by the lack of manners and consideration shown by many Brits today (including immigrant Brits). I don't fancy growing old here.
that was my local gussi
your local I thought it was our staff canteen - they're a weird bunch 
your local
I thought it was our staff canteen - they're a weird bunch Goldenlady: gussi
your local I thought it was our staff canteen - they're a weird bunch
your local I thought it was our staff canteen - they're a weird bunch
nah its my local alright, i gave george the rights to use my u tube vid yonks ago, just some of the local yobs, hoods and farmers
Seems they still havent assimilated yet then.
I kind of agree with the sentiment to some extent, but .. I thought that the OP sounded familiar ... this did the rounds on the internet a few months ago, except at that point it was attributed - almost word for word - to the Australian Prime Minister...
I doubt that a national paper would actually print such a letter : sounds like urban legend to me, and as far as I know Britain dosn't have a "national motto" or "our pledge" ...
However, there has been a phrase in the English Language for over a century : " When in Rome, do as the Romans do.."
hmmmm ...
I doubt that a national paper would actually print such a letter : sounds like urban legend to me, and as far as I know Britain dosn't have a "national motto" or "our pledge" ...
However, there has been a phrase in the English Language for over a century : " When in Rome, do as the Romans do.."
hmmmm ...
we still live in the fairest country in the world with (in the majority) the nicest folk. but things are crumbling rapidly. we as a nation have to be cruel to be kind or the wealthy(lucky sods) will abandon this once mighty ship! now where did i put those bloody oz flight tickets?
You should get out more often. Travel around the world. No country has a mônopoly on having the "nicest folk" or the "fairest country." I've lived and worked in 9 countries and vísited 33 countries. Good and bad everywhere mate, fair and unfair too.
You should get out more often. Travel around the world. No country has a mônopoly on having the "nicest folk" or the "fairest country." I've lived and worked in 9 countries and vísited 33 countries. Good and bad everywhere mate, fair and unfair too.
scon1916: we still live in the fairest country in the world with (in the majority) the nicest folk. but things are crumbling rapidly. we as a nation have to be cruel to be kind or the wealthy(lucky sods) will abandon this once mighty ship! now where did i put those bloody oz flight tickets?
You should get out more often. Travel around the world. No country has a mônopoly on having the "nicest folk" or the "fairest country." I've lived and worked in 9 countries and vísited 33 countries. Good and bad everywhere mate, fair and unfair too.
You should get out more often. Travel around the world. No country has a mônopoly on having the "nicest folk" or the "fairest country." I've lived and worked in 9 countries and vísited 33 countries. Good and bad everywhere mate, fair and unfair too.
Hello Scon
You make some valid observations in your second paragraph but anyone of my generation who is as skilled as I am in my trades and having been held legally responsible for what I said and did on development work of a confidential nature does NOT have to work or visit other countries to reach the same conclusions.
I was accused by the then sitting but now disgraced tory MP, Johnathan Aitken, of having a warped mind because I said at a public meeting
*It does not matter which party is elected as it is not in the interests of the way the nation is run. The establishment and banks see toit that the gap between the working class and wealthy is not diminished by allowing us keep more of our income. We are forced to pay over 40% of our wages in taxes before we have anything to use or even buy food.
Not only do the wealthy have more money they are allowed to use creative accountancy and claim expenses when the PAYE system we are forced to comply with unless we go self employed does not allow us to claim any at all* - The Tories under Thatcher privatised all our assets to the extent that even Harold Mc Millan (A Tory) said they are selling the family silver.
The City whizz kids and bankers were all encouraged to rip us all off incliding savers.
Now we are in a bloody mess and the low paid and pensioners are the hardest hit especially after abolition of the 10% taxband. The New Lie-bore government since 1997 has done nothing to alter any situation at the sharp end despite all its hypocritical hot air staged managed PR exercises based on American crap and in most cases now we are worse off as they have ensured the
Have/Have Not gap has been widened rather than reduced.
They could even suggest compulsory euthenaaia at 70 to avoid paying pensions that you pay for all your working lives which would not surprise me - I rest my case.
Winston Smith - Un-Person of Oceania
haunebu2: Now we are in a bloody mess and the low paid and pensioners are the hardest hit especially after abolition of the 10% taxband. The New Lie-bore government since 1997 has done nothing to alter any situation at the sharp end despite all its hypocritical hot air staged managed PR exercises based on American crap and in most cases now we are worse off as they have ensured the
Have/Have Not gap has been widened rather than reduced.
Hmm, I heard that pensioners have never had it so good what with pension credits, council tax benefits, disability allowance, cold weather payments, housing benefits Have/Have Not gap has been widened rather than reduced.
Of course, I could be mistaken 
I must say though that you do well for a pensioner in being able to afford your own private disc aircraft
Zellarrone1: Hmm, I heard that pensioners have never had it so good what with pension credits, council tax benefits, disability allowance, cold weather payments, housing benefits Of course, I could be mistaken I must say though that you do well for a pensioner in being able to afford your own private disc aircraft
The Disc aircraft joke aside
If a single pensioner receives over £130 weekly they are excluded from claiming any benefits apart from the single persons reduction in Council tax if we are widowed and/or live alone.
As a widower of single pensioner we can also get a 30% discount on electricity and gas bills as long as nobody visits for longer than 4 weeks. - We also lose our state pension when we stay in hospital over 3 weeks for the duration above that and have to claim again so if you think that is fair to anyone you are way out of step and shoul;dprobably vote tory because they never dfid anything about it and probably willnot baceuse it brings in revenue. - The general public are ignorant of all the factors Imentioned and assume too much when they shoot their know all mouths off about pensioners.
Zellarrone1: Hmm, I heard that pensioners have never had it so good what with pension credits, council tax benefits, disability allowance, cold weather payments, housing benefits Of course, I could be mistaken I must say though that you do well for a pensioner in being able to afford your own private disc aircraft
The Disc aircraft joke aside
If a single pensioner receives over £130 weekly they are excluded from claiming any benefits apart from the single persons reduction in Council tax if we are widowed and/or live alone.
As a widower or single pensioner we can also get a 30% discount on electricity and gas bills as long as nobody visits for longer than 4 weeks. - We also lose our state pension when we stay in hospital over 3 weeks for the duration above that and have to claim again so if you think that is fair to anyone you are way out of step and shoul;dprobably vote tory because they never dfid anything about it and probably willnot baceuse it brings in revenue. - The general public are ignorant of all the factors Imentioned and assume too much when they shoot their know all mouths off about pensioners.
Zellarrone1: Hmm, I heard that pensioners have never had it so good what with pension credits, council tax benefits, disability allowance, cold weather payments, housing benefits Of course, I could be mistaken I must say though that you do well for a pensioner in being able to afford your own private disc aircraft
The Disc aircraft joke aside
If a single pensioner receives over £130 weekly they are excluded from claiming any benefits apart from the single persons reduction in Council tax if we are widowed and/or live alone.
As a widower or single pensioner we can also get a 30% discount on electricity and gas bills as long as nobody visits for longer than 4 weeks. - We also lose our state pension when we stay in hospital over 3 weeks for the duration above that and have to claim again so if you think that is fair to anyone you are way out of step and shoul;dprobably vote tory because they never dfid anything about it and probably willnot baceuse it brings in revenue. - The general public are ignorant of all the factors Imentioned and assume too much when they shoot their know all mouths off about pensioners.
sorry about the three sendings - i don't know ahet happened
haunebu2: sorry about the three sendings - i don't know ahet happened
You got overexcited and clicked on "send" button 3 times that's what happened 
haunebu2: The Disc aircraft joke aside
If a single pensioner receives over £130 weekly they are excluded from claiming any benefits apart from the single persons reduction in Council tax if we are widowed and/or live alone.
As a widower or single pensioner we can also get a 30% discount on electricity and gas bills as long as nobody visits for longer than 4 weeks. - We also lose our state pension when we stay in hospital over 3 weeks for the duration above that and have to claim again so if you think that is fair to anyone you are way out of step and shoul;dprobably vote tory because they never dfid anything about it and probably willnot baceuse it brings in revenue. - The general public are ignorant of all the factors Imentioned and assume too much when they shoot their know all mouths off about pensioners.
No, I don't believe all of that. Plus it's pensioners themselves that have told me they're not badly off. You need to see a lawyer if you're not getting enough to live on If a single pensioner receives over £130 weekly they are excluded from claiming any benefits apart from the single persons reduction in Council tax if we are widowed and/or live alone.
As a widower or single pensioner we can also get a 30% discount on electricity and gas bills as long as nobody visits for longer than 4 weeks. - We also lose our state pension when we stay in hospital over 3 weeks for the duration above that and have to claim again so if you think that is fair to anyone you are way out of step and shoul;dprobably vote tory because they never dfid anything about it and probably willnot baceuse it brings in revenue. - The general public are ignorant of all the factors Imentioned and assume too much when they shoot their know all mouths off about pensioners.
When I retire in 11 years time I expect to be living a life of luxury 
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So - Are U sayin arma-dinner-jacket's actually Church of Scotland in disguise as a muslim and is related to McBroon O New LieBore ?