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Jan 14, 2010 10:30 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
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There's a great deal of information regarding Dec. 21 2012 being the end of the world. The Mayan calander and others are seen as 'end' dates.I thought I would add a couple of different perspectives to dating things and what they mean for us. Our calendar (Gregorian) was constructed to serve the sheckle. A number of other things were done to make eveything else comply at different times in earth's history. I'll get to those other things later, as well as a different perspective on the Mayan Calander

Our present thought that a calendar end date, means "last chance" is part of the illsuion created by the calander we use. We tend to think there is finality in it. We use dates that infuse and control us with that finality, such us mortgage payment dates, car payments dates, rent due dates, even xmas dating, regardless of any official proof of christs, anchors us to dates being the final chance you have to pay up. The thought of finality creates burder to produce a result, burden serves oppression, oppression serves the creator of the system. Serving the almighty dollar, serving those who control the wealth, the 13 so called noble blood lines, aka the elite. Did you know that the Catholic church holds enough assets and wealth, to not only feed the hungry in this world; but to make everyone's life far more comfortable than it is? They are just one part of those 13 elite groups.

Lets look firstly at an example of true natural cycles. Life is full of these cycles, in fact life is more cylcic than we notice. For our expample we'll use astrology. I should preface this by saying that present day astrology though somewhat accurate, is also out of balance with the true cycles of our galaxy. There are in fact 13 constellations in our heavens, which menas 13 birth signs, not the 12 we are told exist. These 12 birth signs are brought into compliance with the 12 month Gregorian Calander. Out of sync? Yep, another part of the illsuion. The missing or omitted constellation, yet perhaps the most important is Ophiuchus. (aka The Snake Holder- an interesting part of metaphysical energy) (this and other research on reasons to omit Ophiuchus from our astrological knowledge become obvious, but I'll let you be the judge.).

Two important points ..not so odd is fact that the Mayan's use of 13, not 12 months in their calander - and- the moon makes 13 trips around out planet once a year as I recall. Research who it was that created the myth in unlucky 13 and once again you find who and what this BS serves.

Back to understanding cycles, using astrology as an example. We''ll use sunsign Aries. Generally if you are born in Aries, it is from (using the unnatural 12 sign astrology) March 21 to Apr. 21 of any given year.

Since we have this illsuion that things are over on a certain date. Some think if you're born on Apr.22, you are then a Taurus, because Aries ended. Not true. It is called as many know a cusp. The influence of one and or another sign overlaps for days/hours/minutes. There is no real specific 'end' point or 'dateable' end point when that influence or cusp becomes negated or ended and it is rarely consistent in it's timing.

In mid Aries sunsign period, you can expect a stronger influence; but even then one cannot as a responsible astrologer omit other planetary influences that also affect the person at that time. Some planetry influences could even mute a great deal of that supposed Aries person, others could amplify it. It is not now nor will it ever be cut and dry, unless one does proper 13 constellation astrology and is a professional. Even then the best estimate they will give you, is the 'influences of that period, not the outcome. That is up to you and how you deal with the influence. And for this, we don't really need astrology, we just need to learn to deal with influences.

cont'd super
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Jan 14, 2010 11:23 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
Some Ophuichus Bones to chase. smoking




Sun and Dark Rift alignment ...25,000 yr cycles (approx.)



Centers and planes of galaxy ..again approx. 25,000 to 26,000 yrs

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Jan 15, 2010 8:39 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
MGaffMGaffClare, Ireland2 Threads 148 Posts
bohdiprana: Some Ophuichus Bones to chase.

Sun and Dark Rift alignment ...25,000 yr cycles (approx.)



Centers and planes of galaxy ..again approx. 25,000 to 26,000 yrs


Had heard of the 13th constellation before, but by a different name, thanks for this, it connected a few dots!
Here's a good one!
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Jan 15, 2010 9:01 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MGaff: Had heard of the 13th constellation before, but by a different name, thanks for this, it connected a few dots!
Here's a good one!


Ya, I watched that one. 13 isn't unlucky according to numerology. Nothing is unlucky unless you think that way. 13 is actually a 4 (1+3=4) Its no more unlucky than thinking 7 is lucky. We feed the luck.

cheers

Things 'conveniently' left out of ancient texts, or conveniently manipulated to throw things off balance.

real astronomy?

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Jan 15, 2010 9:07 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
Another good one, validating what we call mythology. Whether we consider them archtypal or not, there are reason why they became so called myths.

I especially like the plasma rivers joining everything.

(6 parts ?)

There also reviews on this that.

I think there is one called "Electric Universe" worth seeing as well.



head banger
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Jan 15, 2010 9:15 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
MGaffMGaffClare, Ireland2 Threads 148 Posts
bohdiprana: Ya, I watched that one. 13 isn't unlucky according to numerology. Nothing is unlucky unless you think that way. 13 is actually a 4 (1+3=4) Its no more unlucky than thinking 7 is lucky. We feed the luck.



Things 'conveniently' left out of ancient texts, or conveniently manipulated to throw things off balance.

real astronomy?



Actually, 13 is seen as a Karmic number in Numerology, as are 15, 16 and 19, but that doesn't make them unlucky, any more than astrology tells the future!
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Jan 15, 2010 9:59 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MGaff: Actually, 13 is seen as a Karmic number in Numerology, as are 15, 16 and 19, but that doesn't make them unlucky, any more than astrology tells the future!



ok, you know how I think about karma shmarma giggle


My real name is a master number, I won't tell you which number but if you figure it out, I'll rethink the karma thing. laugh

one guess, no more, fair odds? tongue
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Jan 15, 2010 10:20 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
You hear this one Prana? Parallel worlds and infinite selves. I think in all honesty, Bashar is pushing a positive meme to generate positive thoughts and positive realities...



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Jan 15, 2010 11:02 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
StressFree: You hear this one Prana? Parallel worlds and infinite selves. I think in all honesty, Bashar is pushing a positive meme to generate positive thoughts and positive realities...



Ya the hopi guy could be... oh whats the word - knowing the prophecy and indulging it enough to create it in his reality?...I forget. Prophecy sometimes serves the purpose of creating a variant of the future, that was seen in the prophecy.

The Movie "NEXT" is a really good example of this. "when you know your future, it changes your future, because you looked at it."

Prophecy gives us a chance to alter things, just by looking at it... and maybe we can or will whether we like it or not?

This is the vid where he says, the quarantine is lifted as well. I wonder if the veil is lifted too? then ...Being fully concious rather than being sub-conscious/consciousness, separated or veiled.

I know we can pierce the veil; (pineal gland activation) but our true being doesn't have this separation or veil. Might be cool if it does happen and that would equate to what 4th Density is about, knowing what others are doing, being totally aware of yourself and others without being able to lie or hide things from others. Curious thought I'm having. laugh And you'd get to keep your skydong so you can pound muff all day! giggle



This is funky. I get the idea of dimensions from this vid; but it implies that every moment of choice you are creating other realities in parallel to you that go in any number of infinite directions related to the choice or catalyst in that moment. It gets mind boggling man.

Then he says its all here, its all now, which to me, contradicts the multiple dimensional assertion he makes. confused
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Jan 15, 2010 11:33 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
MGaffMGaffClare, Ireland2 Threads 148 Posts
ok, you know how I think about karma shmarma My real name is a master number, I won't tell you which number but if you figure it out, I'll rethink the karma thing.

one guess, no more, fair odds?[/quote

We may be working with different forms, we use the term "Power" number, and there are only 3 of them, so l have a 3/1 shot!
lf you are truely beyond Karma that would make you a 33, and if l'm wrong, then you are! Win/Win for me!rolling on the floor laughing
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Jan 15, 2010 11:42 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MGaff: ok, you know how I think about karma shmarma My real name is a master number, I won't tell you which number but if you figure it out, I'll rethink the karma thing.

one guess, no more, fair odds?[/quote

We may be working with different forms, we use the term "Power" number, and there are only 3 of them, so l have a 3/1 shot!
lf you are truely beyond Karma that would make you a 33, and if l'm wrong, then you are! Win/Win for me!


wow you know your stuff. thumbs up



bowing wine
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Jan 15, 2010 11:50 AM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
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bohdiprana: you know your stuff.


you saying you're a 33?
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Jan 15, 2010 12:40 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
MGaffMGaffClare, Ireland2 Threads 148 Posts
MGaff: Michio Kaku is a good example of a "Dreamer" in Shamanic terms, as is Stephen Hawking. lt is said that "one Dreamer is worth a thousand warriors." And that it takes 144000 Dreamers holding a common Dream to sway, impact, or change the Mass-consciousness of Humanity...


Or to make a choice to determine the future time-line that this planet will take. ln the way l've been taught, we are approaching a point where a multitude of possible futures will open up for us as individuals, but also as a species, and the chosen path for the species will be determined by the number of Humans feeding it.
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Jan 15, 2010 12:59 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
StressFree
StressFreeStressFreesmall city, Kalmar Sweden176 Threads 16 Polls 8,986 Posts
MGaff: Or to make a choice to determine the future time-line that this planet will take. ln the way l've been taught, we are approaching a point where a multitude of possible futures will open up for us as individuals, but also as a species, and the chosen path for the species will be determined by the number of Humans feeding it.


Exactly and I agree. thumbs up I'd like to add that possible futures opening up happens in every second of our lives as we think, choose, decide, and react. The point is now imo, but I can very well envision a threshold point coming during a turbulent time in which some will take different paths. And it could be now, and tomorrow and so forth. I agree on the concept of a path being determined by a number of people feeding a certain idea, reality, meme, and future. Thoughts are powerful things and the thought you manifest will include those who chose similar paths of yours---similarity in vibration. So you'll be in that reality with those people who share similar thoughts/vibrations---and the others who chose a different path will be in their reality---separate from each other. The cool thing is that Quantum science is investigating and exploring this concept.
However, I'd have to say in my own view, that the chosen path is an individual one and the reality you find yourself in, will be shared by those who chose the same paths---with all the positive and negative energy to balance each other out in a physical plane. Supposedly, there is an infinite amount of physical existences on the physical plane, but only one existence on the spiritual plane.
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Jan 15, 2010 1:32 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MGaff: you saying you're a 33?



thumbs up never doubt your intuition. conversing

















unless its something doubtful laugh
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Jan 15, 2010 1:32 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
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bohdiprana: ok, you know how I think about karma shmarma My real name is a master number, I won't tell you which number but if you figure it out, I'll rethink the karma thing.

one guess, no more, fair odds?

Try this as an explanation of karma:
Doubt which becomes an ingrain pattern rises up our LightWheels to the 3rd LightWheel and becomes false fear--not real fear. As it comes into the 4th LightWheel it becomes insecurity with abandonment issues, loss of connection, isolation, etc. This all arising out of anger, again false anger since it is the anger that does not bring any e-motion, (energy motion) but is stagnant as a ingrained pattern, known as karma. This all sets up a cognitive dissonance and we become caught, obsessed, and lost in all of the what if, we become negative, lose our center and connection with the HolyOnes, and this loop keeps us in a place that we can never find a solution. Somewhere we need to break the loop that feeds on itself. Right now we have collectives that are doing this, and since our thoughts influence the web around us, we have whole collective that are caught in this. All governments need to do is tweak the fear and we are off and running.
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Jan 15, 2010 1:37 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
MGaffMGaffClare, Ireland2 Threads 148 Posts
bohdiprana: never doubt your intuition. unless its something doubtful


Cool, that would explain much!
Guess l'll have to be nice to ya now...comfort
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Jan 15, 2010 1:55 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
StressFree:
A quick example is say in this universe your nose starts to itch. Now you can do several things---you can rub your nose or you can scratch it, or your body can decide to sneeze. All those three things will happen in this universe. Say you decide to sneeze, you do so. However the energy of the other two possible outcomes has to go somewhere. And so hence at that moment two other universes come into being, where in one you rubbed your nose and the other one you scratched your nose. And that's the only difference at this point between those two universes and this one. And then they continue to develop. And they will be slightly different but they'll still be very similar in vibration to this one.


It makes sense to me, and theoretical physicist, Michio Kaku who specializes in string field theory pretty much simplifies in this video.

Time Travel, Parallel Universes, and Reality:



This is how I see the dimension thingy. I can see how an original consciouness, the original creator I'll call it, would at some point realize it could splinter it's self, by using intent to create other 'images' of it's self and have each and everyone of them following whatever path choice comes up in consciousness in not only it's own perception of self, but also in those it has given consciousness to, you, me, etc.

I can also see us doing that, since we have the same 'ability' though we're cut off from immediate manifestation, so most of us don't really notice that we're god because the manifestations don't appear right away or they appear in variations of wehat we thought we wanted because our attention to them was unclear thinkning. Some don't notice anything at all of course, totally lost in physical beingness.

So, my thoughts are that this is the dimensional factor of 'gawd' and also of us in potentia. I don't think it's quite that simple in how Bashar seems to present it, that it happens without thought or intention. I think there needs to be as MG and I were alluding to yesterday, 4 components in enlightenment in order manifest what we are calling a parallel you or me (another dimensional being)...the process is genarally- desire, definition, dedication, detachment...or in lay terms- attention, intention, action, release. (also the 1st four cards of the major arcana, tarot me thinks)

Of course I'm not denying that 'we' haven't already done that prior to our present illsuion. It's entirely possible,... the higher self comes to mind as just one other dimensional being, but I have doubts that we are, in this present state, creating as many dimensional beings as Bashar seems to suggest.

Not that it isn't possible. I'm not refuting what you're saying, just suggesting that it takes a little more than just thinking other 'yous' into a reality and placing them somewhere else.. ie - in a parallel universe. dunno
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Jan 15, 2010 1:57 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
bohdiprana
bohdipranabohdipranaLondon, Ontario Canada32 Threads 1,493 Posts
MGaff: Michio Kaku is a good example of a "Dreamer" in Shamanic terms, as is Stephen Hawking. lt is said that "one Dreamer is worth a thousand warriors." And that it takes 144000 Dreamers holding a common Dream to sway, impact, or change the Mass-consciousness of Humanity...


An interesting number you've brought up. hmmm cool
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Jan 15, 2010 2:06 PM CST 2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive
MGaff
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bohdiprana: An interesting number you've brought up.


isn't tho!
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