2012 ??? -- Dates In Persepctive ( Archived) (249)

Ah, don't be a fantasy killer! lol Its harmless flirting and fun. -22c I wouldn't exactly be outside anyways - but under the covers!!!

I…..C !

I am now detaching from the hordes of 'harmonious' a-type control personalities, who's front is pure a lie of who they really are.


Hope all your future head hunting persecutions are harmonious.




And SF ...fu.

First off let me state that I don't believe the world will expire according to the Mayan calendar, nor do I believe in santa or the tooth fairy.. but I do have a tremendous amount of respect and awe in regards to how advanced the Mayas were in astronomy and mathematics, which is why this subject has always been interesting to me.


I recently saw a television program about a (supposedly) recently (1995) discovered Mayan sun god statue on Juan Fernandez Island, some 400 miles off the coast of Chile. The interesting things about this are that the final total solar eclipse on the Mayan calendar will occur in the year 2012, fall on a Baktun (Mayan religious holiday that occurs every so often), and will be visible from the peak of this statue (that is twice the size of the sphynx)at 1deg above the horizon.

For those of you not fluent with astronomy, a solar eclipse of this kind leaves 2 shadows on the earth. One is rather wide but will only dampen the sunlight a small bit and is called the Penumbra, the second is a very dark inner shadow that only covers about 1% of the Earths surface. The Umbra will be visible from the flat peak of this statue and (allegedly) will be the only piece of land that the Umbra will be visible from.

The second interesting thing is that the rarest visible event in our solar system (The transit of Venus between the earth and the sun)will also occur in the year 2012, on a Baktun and be visible from the peak of this statue.


Unfortunately it was the History channel so as usual they give no evidence for this being true other than the word of the man who happened to "stumble apon it". This man is also an expert in the Maya. There were no other Mayan experts brought along to verify on the TV expedition other than the man who found it. Asides from the fact that the Mayan could have easily navigated by the stars to get from point A to point B, I don't see how they could travel 400 miles across extremely rough ocean with dugout boats with enough supplies to sustain themselves while they constructed something so large, on an island they had no way of knowing existed originally... None-the-less it is very interesting for those of you who enjoy the Mayan calendar stuff! I believe they nick named the island "Apocalypse Island", feel free to Google it and read up if you'd like!


See you all again on this thread on December 22 2012!

Cool, with:"internal dialog, internal-external actions, thought and feeling patterns that both influence and result how you see and feel about yourself, and beahviours, actions" We use the Terms, "To be at cause" or "To be at effect". So to be at effect is to "react", or to re-enact the old pattern, ie. to just run through an unconscious program. To be at cause, is to respond, you take a step back for the stimulus, or the catalyst as prana would say, reflect on past interactions with this particular pattern, and then try another approach to breaking the pattern. This pattern being Karma, so looking for the gem at its heart, the lesson that frees you and sets you on the Dharmic path.
With change, it is the same thing, Change as we perceive it is simply the Tonal expression of an underlying energy movement, it is essentially an "effect", but in fact the true Constant is which lies beneath, the cause. It is the Flow. But for me l can only say that l recognise this Constant, but to say that it is the only one, is to say that l know all there is to know! Always there is the Unknown and it is vast compared to what is Known, so l can never say that my Knowledge is absolute, for even that which l now know may change and no longer be true, and so become illusion. So again, always fluidity is needed even with what is known.

Judgement? I call it observation of evidence. Do I think it was planned that way. Nah, partly and inadvertently premodelled- I don't think MG is that crazy are able as yet, but the prevailing coping mechanisms tend to rule the day (unless one is really aware) and then the monkey prophet's followers join in. It's just catalyst and entropic harmony. You have no idea how I feel. Assumption is your own self devised catalyst. (or as MG calls it "to be at effect" and IMO, one shouldn't assume it to be the wrong or right way to be anymore than one should assume that being fluid is the way to be. Just options.)


One day, if you're good and do your karma lessons, I may teach you to be the mirror.



YOUR mirrors? or is your first paragraph above this one, just ego lipservice, flipping on the 'good' Tony switch when it serves your BS?. If you believe your fist paragraph you might actually learn something by really reading all the accusations you make in your second paragraph, the mirror above, some pretty cool and eye opening stuff man ....if that sort learning is important to you that is...I'm advising this as a friend ..personally I don't care, cuz you know what I think about learning. It's just experience Alice.

monkey see monkey do.

I wonder if your awareness will set your ego mind aside long enough to pick up on your subconscious admission of blindness. New monkey tool! Use it wisely.

flow ...


you say that like its a bad thing. You reacted least of all. It is said that the one who reacts least on the surface, is the one boiling underneathe and doing all he/she can do to stop the flow because he/she knows it's own eruptions and thinks them self destructive and so stops them.


Eruptions are pretty fluid and in harmony with mother nature.