RELIGIOUS, AGNOSTIC AND ATHEIST (134)
Conrad73: In short,they have become Automatons.
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I never read about babies being bashes against rocks so i don't know what bible you are reading!!
Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
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DEC19063: I never read about babies being bashes against rocks so i don't know what bible you are reading!!
Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
Read the OT!Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
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DEC19063: I never read about babies being bashes against rocks so i don't know what bible you are reading!!
Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
Choose to do what ever you care to do you know your heart you have to live with it.
I wish you all well and have only shared what i have in my heart.
well then go and read about it
1 Chronicles 21 Deuteronomy 3 Judges 21 2 Kings
10:18-27
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If there are a people who are raising their children to grow up and praise Baal the false God and sacrafice babies to Baal then i can understand a God wanting to erase that population and their lifestyle. Remember God is in control not people. We don't get to say what God thinks is right. If we did we would be God. If you are God then that is in your mind. You then can create your own world as God has and create humans to live as you choose.
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DEC19063: If there are a people who are raising their children to grow up and praise Baal the false God and sacrafice babies to Baal then i can understand a God wanting to erase that population and their lifestyle. Remember God is in control not people. We don't get to say what God thinks is right. If we did we would be God. If you are God then that is in your mind. You then can create your own world as God has and create humans to live as you choose.
Really, are we talking about the same all loving god here?You cannot claim god being all loving and a murderer at the same time. The only sin a new born child commits is being born into the controlling murdering system you follow.
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DEC19063: If there are a people who are raising their children to grow up and praise Baal the false God and sacrafice babies to Baal then i can understand a God wanting to erase that population and their lifestyle. Remember God is in control not people. We don't get to say what God thinks is right. If we did we would be God. If you are God then that is in your mind. You then can create your own world as God has and create humans to live as you choose.
Easy way to justify any atrocity!
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Bilboette: For me, 'God' does not exist as an old bearded man up in the sky.
I believe the creating force is in every cell and atom from which our world takes phisical appearence from NO THING, or the ethereal world if you like. So, thus as a "he" or "she", he doesn't exist on our plane of existence and hence has no phisical form we can see or touch. I believe that phisically, there is no 'God'.
There is, however, I believe, a natural creative force constently at work within everything. Change, evolution, adaptation to me are all exemples of that force.
I hope I expressed myself okay.
I believe the creating force is in every cell and atom from which our world takes phisical appearence from NO THING, or the ethereal world if you like. So, thus as a "he" or "she", he doesn't exist on our plane of existence and hence has no phisical form we can see or touch. I believe that phisically, there is no 'God'.
There is, however, I believe, a natural creative force constently at work within everything. Change, evolution, adaptation to me are all exemples of that force.
I hope I expressed myself okay.
I have similar views.
I like to label it the Force or universal consciousness that we are part of in separate form with our own individual consciousness that is evolving and adapting. From my understanding, we are like a cell part of the body or a water drop separated from the sea. The way I see it, we are all part of the whole. All is one---one is all. I could elaborate on this, but I'm too lazy hahaha. I don't want to call this universal force and consciousness God because that label ushers in perceptions of fear of the Judeo-Christian-Islam God and you'll never catch me saying it's a he or she. As far as I know, we are the ones who create and control our destinies, we are Gods in a sense.------ This thread is Archived ------
Well in the bible even God learned to change his ways to relate to mankind. He did send his son a person of nonviolence.
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DEC19063: Well in the bible even God learned to change his ways to relate to mankind. He did send his son a person of nonviolence.
Hold on, god is perfect why would he have a need to learn? 
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Those of you who choose to ignore God have that freedom. God gave it to you in a free will. Do i fully understand God? No! I do know not to condemn God and i believe we are more than our simple bodies / shells and people dying or being murdered etc etc are not our whole spiritual existences. I do know many people choose to have abortions and some believe that to be murder. If we only relate things to our selves and not to Gods vision which is not fully known by mankind then we have limited ourselves from hearing that which God has for us to hear. I have heard from millions of people in my life and i have seen that they are limited in their vision whereas God's vision has no limits. Yes there was a time where God wanted to erase all of mankind due to their evil ways. Imagine if you were God and created mankind and saw them being evil and sacraficing children on alters to a fake God called baal wouldn't you also want to wipe them all out? God did change his relationship to mankind over time.
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God also allowed men to have many wives but his son changed that.
The point is God has changed in his way he relates to mankind.
The point is God has changed in his way he relates to mankind.
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Maybe we should share about our consciences / free will to choose. Maybe if we shared about that without adding religion we could learn from one another things we may not know. It might be a way to get to know one another. I don't mean to hijack this thread but i hadn't intended this thread to become about our disagreements but it was to be about our own personal views without attacking anothers point of view.
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DEC19063: Those of you who choose to ignore God have that freedom. God gave it to you in a free will. Do i fully understand God? No! I do know not to condemn God and i believe we are more than our simple bodies / shells and people dying or being murdered etc etc are not our whole spiritual existences. I do know many people choose to have abortions and some believe that to be murder. If we only relate things to our selves and not to Gods vision which is not fully known by mankind then we have limited ourselves from hearing that which God has for us to hear. I have heard from millions of people in my life and i have seen that they are limited in their vision whereas God's vision has no limits. Yes there was a time where God wanted to erase all of mankind due to their evil ways. Imagine if you were God and created mankind and saw them being evil and sacraficing children on alters to a fake God called baal wouldn't you also want to wipe them all out? God did change his relationship to mankind over time.
Yes god is definitely not pro life Hosea 9:11-16 Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.” Do we really have free will? Couldn’t we dismiss that by not being able to choose birth or death?
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The only tangible evedence that God exists is people shouting his name ............
besides.........if there was a God, would he treat his own children as he has in Haiti ? 
besides.........if there was a God, would he treat his own children as he has in Haiti ?
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DEC19063: without attacking anothers point of view.
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Hey DEC19063 atheist just simply don’t go around murdering people we prefer to use psychological assistance combined with education as an alternative. 
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Well i am not interested in going back and forth. I came here to share my beliefs in response to the thread author. I didn't come here to change anyones point of view. I'll step to the side and let you all continue your views and wish you well. 
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EliteOne: Hey DEC19063 atheist just simply don’t go around murdering people we prefer to use psychological assistance combined with education as an alternative.
It would be difficult to prove that there isn't an atheist who didn't murder someone. However, they don't get to hold positions in high government offices either, so who knows what they would do if they actually got any real power. 
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